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Posted by: just another fan
Agreed. And to the one who said that the council should help with picking new mods: agreed. If the council can help with chosing a new mod, then things such a VERY recent issue( i won't go into details, that's not what this thread is for) will no longer occur, or so i hope. Because if the council helps deciding, i think people can no longer -blam!- about the chosen mod.


The Council Members picking mods sounds good. But maybe if we did think that someone could become a new moderator, we would have to talk to Sketch or Achronos about it. Yeah, no one would -blam!- about the chosen mod if we help decide. I like that idea.

  • 05.01.2005 10:40 AM PDT

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We would definantly need to talk to Sketch and Achronos about it. If we don't have their support for pretty much all of this (Except the Chapter Spotlight- we could put that up on a different site), then the whole Council idea goes down the drain.

  • 05.01.2005 10:45 AM PDT
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Posted by: Pink Menace
We would definantly need to talk to Sketch and Achronos about it. If we don't have their support for pretty much all of this (Except the Chapter Spotlight- we could put that up on a different site), then the whole Council idea goes down the drain.


I never thought about that. That is true, maybe we won't even have a Council at the end. Unless they want this to happen, as you said, this will go down the drain.

Still, I do find it odd how there is only one chapter spotlight.

  • 05.01.2005 10:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: Pink Menace
We would definantly need to talk to Sketch and Achronos about it. If we don't have their support for pretty much all of this (Except the Chapter Spotlight- we could put that up on a different site), then the whole Council idea goes down the drain.

It bothers me they don't respond, especially since the whole idea was (if my memory serves me correctly) started by Sketch. :(

  • 05.01.2005 10:49 AM PDT
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Posted by: just another fan
It bothers me they don't respond, especially since the whole idea was (if my memory serves me correctly) started by Sketch. :(


Due to the fact that those guys get tons of PMs a day, maybe they want this thread to go on a little longer or they may still be thinking about it.

  • 05.01.2005 10:53 AM PDT

It was a cold day near the southern base in Blood Gulch. Cortana and I were relaxing over a game of Go Fish, WHEN OUT OF NO WHERE 700 BANSHEES CAME FLYING IN!!! I GRABED MY SPARTAN LASER AND LET HELL REIGN DOWN UPON THEM. I HOPPED IN THE NEAREST WARTHOG AND TOLD CORTANA TO GET IN.

Has anyone PMed them yet? I think that although Rip Saw has a point, we should know that if we get this orgainized they'll back us up. I don't want to finally have a list of people with their jobs all put together, send a nice long letter to Sketch and Achronos, and find out that they won't support us.

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Posted by: Pink Menace
Has anyone PMed them yet? I think that although Rip Saw has a point, we should know that if we get this orgainized they'll back us up. I don't want to finally have a list of people with their jobs all put together, send a nice long letter to Sketch and Achronos, and find out that they won't support us.


If they don't support us in this, then it would probably be very difficult to do this by ourselves.

[Edited on 5/1/2005]

  • 05.01.2005 10:55 AM PDT

It was a cold day near the southern base in Blood Gulch. Cortana and I were relaxing over a game of Go Fish, WHEN OUT OF NO WHERE 700 BANSHEES CAME FLYING IN!!! I GRABED MY SPARTAN LASER AND LET HELL REIGN DOWN UPON THEM. I HOPPED IN THE NEAREST WARTHOG AND TOLD CORTANA TO GET IN.

My pint excatly. We need to get approval before we do anything else in my opinion. I say we get goweb to talk to Achronos and Sketch as soon as we can. Once we do that, we might be able to get help setting this up. But even if we don't get help, we still have the reassurence that once we're done this great idea will be implemented. Also, I think a member of the Council should be the one to write the news article that explains what excatly the Council is.

  • 05.01.2005 11:00 AM PDT
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Posted by: Pink Menace
My pint excatly. We need to get approval before we do anything else in my opinion. I say we get goweb to talk to Achronos and Sketch as soon as we can. Once we do that, we might be able to get help setting this up. But even if we don't get help, we still have the reassurence that once we're done this great idea will be implemented. Also, I think a member of the Council should be the one to write the news article that explains what excatly the Council is.


Out of curiousity, would the Council have a group set up for them?

  • 05.01.2005 11:01 AM PDT
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Black Eye is right. But I know that at least one mod is looking into this sticky every day. They know we want this to come together. Maybee they are waiting for us to get together all of our final ideas, and who would be in the Council, and then they would approve/reject the idea.

H47 ;-)

  • 05.01.2005 11:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: H47
Black Eye is right. But I know that at least one mod is looking into this sticky every day. They know we want this to come together. Maybee they are waiting for us to get together all of our final ideas, and who would be in the Council, and then they would approve/reject the idea.

H47 ;-)


So maybe we could create a final list of what the members should do.

  • 05.01.2005 11:05 AM PDT
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I think that the list of candidates might need to be revised a little. I understand that all of the candidates are respected members, but the problem I have is that some of them post only or mostly in The Septagon. That's not nessecarily a bad thing but in my opinion, in order to be part of the council, you would need to have an active role in all the forums.

  • 05.01.2005 11:33 AM PDT
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Posted by: elite4ever
I think that the list of candidates might need to be revised a little. I understand that all of the candidates are respected members, but the problem I have is that some of them post only or mostly in The Septagon. That's not nessecarily a bad thing but in my opinion, in order to be part of the council, you would need to have an active role in all the forums.


Yeah, but even so, it is going to be hard to do this by ourselves.

  • 05.01.2005 11:34 AM PDT

It was a cold day near the southern base in Blood Gulch. Cortana and I were relaxing over a game of Go Fish, WHEN OUT OF NO WHERE 700 BANSHEES CAME FLYING IN!!! I GRABED MY SPARTAN LASER AND LET HELL REIGN DOWN UPON THEM. I HOPPED IN THE NEAREST WARTHOG AND TOLD CORTANA TO GET IN.

I'm active in most of them. I don't post in New Mombasa, Zanziber, Optimatch, The Maw, Or the Library, but that doesn't mean I don't visit them. And regarding the groups- I think there should be two. One for council members only, and one where people with questions can go to discuss them with the Council Members directly.

  • 05.01.2005 11:42 AM PDT
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Posted by: Pink Menace
I'm active in most of them. I don't post in New Mombasa, Zanziber, Optimatch, The Maw, Or the Library, but that doesn't mean I don't visit them. And regarding the groups- I think there should be two. One for council members only, and one where people with questions can go to discuss them with the Council Members directly.


Holy! Same thing with me! I barely go to New Mombasa, Zanzibar, Optimatch, The Maw, and Library. Well, I don't visit them as much as the others. Coincidence?

Maybe like you said, the Council could have a group for FAQs and maybe post them if they are good questions.

  • 05.01.2005 11:44 AM PDT

It was a cold day near the southern base in Blood Gulch. Cortana and I were relaxing over a game of Go Fish, WHEN OUT OF NO WHERE 700 BANSHEES CAME FLYING IN!!! I GRABED MY SPARTAN LASER AND LET HELL REIGN DOWN UPON THEM. I HOPPED IN THE NEAREST WARTHOG AND TOLD CORTANA TO GET IN.

It isn't that I don't go to them, it's that I don't post in them. Probably my least visited forum is Optimatch. Then the Library. Then the rest, then the Flood and the Underground, then the Septagon. The only ones I post in at all though are the Septagon, the Flood, the Underground, and New Mombasa. However, my point is that you don't need to post in forums to know what the people there are like. You can simply go there once a day, read a few threads and leave and after a week you'll know who the major posters are, who the flamers are, and who the smart ones are.

  • 05.01.2005 11:50 AM PDT
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Posted by: Pink Menace
It isn't that I don't go to them, it's that I don't post in them. Probably my least visited forum is Optimatch. Then the Library. Then the rest, then the Flood and the Underground, then the Septagon. The only ones I post in at all though are the Septagon, the Flood, the Underground, and New Mombasa. However, my point is that you don't need to post in forums to know what the people there are like. You can simply go there once a day, read a few threads and leave and after a week you'll know who the major posters are, who the flamers are, and who the smart ones are.


Yeah. Sometimes in groups and forums, I am just too tired to post. Doesn't mean that I am not active there.

  • 05.01.2005 11:51 AM PDT

It was a cold day near the southern base in Blood Gulch. Cortana and I were relaxing over a game of Go Fish, WHEN OUT OF NO WHERE 700 BANSHEES CAME FLYING IN!!! I GRABED MY SPARTAN LASER AND LET HELL REIGN DOWN UPON THEM. I HOPPED IN THE NEAREST WARTHOG AND TOLD CORTANA TO GET IN.

Back on topic. I don't want to ask goweb to talk with Achronos and Sketch if the rest of you don't, but I really think we should get that done ASAP.

  • 05.01.2005 11:59 AM PDT
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Well, someone has to say something. I just don't know who.

[Edited on 5/1/2005]

  • 05.01.2005 12:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: BlackEye319
How are we going to make a list where everyone agrees to?


We compromise.

And to everyone in general, you can just wait for the post to show up. That's what I generally do. It seems like every 3 or 4 posts says nothing but inviso.

I think council members should be able to see group forums with out joining so they can judge the chapter as a whole rather than just by viewing the news/resources. The forum is a very important part of a chapter. Of course I don't know how easy this would be for Bungie to implement but one can dream...

I don't know if council members really need to be involved at all with any of the mod choosing because it is Bungie's forum and whatever they say, goes. Of course I don't see anything wrong with a Bungie Employee asking a council member what he thinks about a potential mod.

  • 05.01.2005 12:57 PM PDT
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Posted by: Halo53
Posted by: BlackEye319
How are we going to make a list where everyone agrees to?


We compromise.

And to everyone in general, you can just wait for the post to show up. That's what I generally do. It seems like every 3 or 4 posts says nothing but inviso.

I think council members should be able to see group forums with out joining so they can judge the chapter as a whole rather than just by viewing the news/resources. The forum is a very important part of a chapter. Of course I don't know how easy this would be for Bungie to implement but one can dream...

I don't know if council members really need to be involved at all with any of the mod choosing because it is Bungie's forum and whatever they say, goes. Of course I don't see anything wrong with a Bungie Employee asking a council member what he thinks about a potential mod.


You are right. The Council Members need to focus more on the groups. Maybe they could see the forum, but not post in it.

  • 05.01.2005 1:01 PM PDT

It was a cold day near the southern base in Blood Gulch. Cortana and I were relaxing over a game of Go Fish, WHEN OUT OF NO WHERE 700 BANSHEES CAME FLYING IN!!! I GRABED MY SPARTAN LASER AND LET HELL REIGN DOWN UPON THEM. I HOPPED IN THE NEAREST WARTHOG AND TOLD CORTANA TO GET IN.

I still think that the council should have a small say in choosing the moderators. I mean, if it's supposed to be very community oriented, then wouldn't they be the perfect people to ask? But then again, the council is for the 7th Column... Whatever. Let's leave that one up to Sketch and Achronos.
I think they should be able to view forums as well. If it's closed membership, that could really slow down scouting for the spotlight. So does anyone else feel the same way I do about contacting Achronos and Sketch as soon as possible? I haven't ogtten a clear response from anybody yet.

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Posted by: Pink Menace
I still think that the council should have a small say in choosing the moderators. I mean, if it's supposed to be very community oriented, then wouldn't they be the perfect people to ask? But then again, the council is for the 7th Column... Whatever. Let's leave that one up to Sketch and Achronos.
I think they should be able to view forums as well. If it's closed membership, that could really slow down scouting for the spotlight. So does anyone else feel the same way I do about contacting Achronos and Sketch as soon as possible? I haven't ogtten a clear response from anybody yet.



I think Guardian Hunter may have asked but I am not certain. Like I said before, maybe the members could view the forums, but not post.

[Edited on 5/1/2005]

  • 05.01.2005 1:32 PM PDT
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Ok. The mods are absolutely Bungie's choice. Council members should not have the ability to do anything in the main forums at all. The forums are not the column.
I like the idea of council members having free reign over any chapter (except those maybe marked as do notr enter AKA HFCS), no restrictions. That's the only way they could check out a chapter without the founder knowing, sort of like a surprise inspection.
I feel that a couple of months of being here is absolutely necessary to be on the council. Sure, some people are really super and cool, but they COULD fake it for a month, I've seen some pretty tenacious trolls.

I think that if you were asked to be a Mod, but are a member of the Council, you should have to either resign your place at the Council or refuse Modship.I agree. mods won't have time for the council and vise verse. Plus, giving someone THAT much power may not be good for them. Imagine suddenly getting that level of mail.

If they don't support us in this, then it would probably be very difficult to do this by ourselves.Apparently, Sketch really wants this to happen. If we didn't have the support of bungie, I surely wouldn't be doing this.

As for revising the list, let's just determine what the counsil will do first. Why would you vote/back someone into a position of power not knowing what power they will have? That woul be foolish.

We really ought to have a full list of powers we want council members to have somewhere. A new post maybe? By someone who is willing to update it daily, maybe twice daily? It would basically mean the creation of another thread to discuss solely the powers the coucil would be granted. Do I hear any seconds?

  • 05.01.2005 2:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: Rip Saw
Ok. The mods are absolutely Bungie's choice. Council members should not have the ability to do anything in the main forums at all. The forums are not the column.
I like the idea of council members having free reign over any chapter (except those maybe marked as do notr enter AKA HFCS), no restrictions. That's the only way they could check out a chapter without the founder knowing, sort of like a surprise inspection.
I feel that a couple of months of being here is absolutely necessary to be on the council. Sure, some people are really super and cool, but they COULD fake it for a month, I've seen some pretty tenacious trolls.

I think that if you were asked to be a Mod, but are a member of the Council, you should have to either resign your place at the Council or refuse Modship.I agree. mods won't have time for the council and vise verse. Plus, giving someone THAT much power may not be good for them. Imagine suddenly getting that level of mail.

If they don't support us in this, then it would probably be very difficult to do this by ourselves.Apparently, Sketch really wants this to happen. If we didn't have the support of bungie, I surely wouldn't be doing this.

As for revising the list, let's just determine what the counsil will do first. Why would you vote/back someone into a position of power not knowing what power they will have? That woul be foolish.

We really ought to have a full list of powers we want council members to have somewhere. A new post maybe? By someone who is willing to update it daily, maybe twice daily? It would basically mean the creation of another thread to discuss solely the powers the coucil would be granted. Do I hear any seconds?


Well, yeah, it is Bungie's choice to decide who becomes a moderator. And we shouldn't have any more privs then the next person, like you said.

I am just super-glad that Sketch wants this to happen. If it wasn't for that, then this wouldn't work out. But how are we going to make another thread based on this?

I was just thinking this for what the Council can do:
* Update The Community section if necessary.
* Put groups in the Spotlight.
* Get news and information on groups.
* Answer any good FAQs about groups and such.
* And maybe, be able to browse certain groups.

[Edited on 5/1/2005]

  • 05.01.2005 3:02 PM PDT