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Subject: The 7th Column Council

It was a cold day near the southern base in Blood Gulch. Cortana and I were relaxing over a game of Go Fish, WHEN OUT OF NO WHERE 700 BANSHEES CAME FLYING IN!!! I GRABED MY SPARTAN LASER AND LET HELL REIGN DOWN UPON THEM. I HOPPED IN THE NEAREST WARTHOG AND TOLD CORTANA TO GET IN.

Posted by: Guardian Hunter
Posted by: Rip Saw
I wouldn't mind a council full of old members, but I'd rather see an almost even mix, with the pre-hawtness members of Bungie.net holding a one person majority. That way, if there ever is anything to vote on that is important, the smart people, and by smart, I mean well-versed in the way things used to be and who know what the good times were like, could overrule the fools. And by fools, I mean those who think they have a good idea, but all the smart people know it'll fail because they've seen it fail in the past.


I suppose this idea is a ok compromise since older members are theoretically more versed in the ways of bungie than new members.


Why the theoretically? They are more versed. That isn't debatable. Someone who has seen Bungie in its former glory has seen more of it then someone who has not.

  • 05.10.2005 11:31 AM PDT

I'm not that active, but never dead.

Posted by: EAGLES5
but how versed can u get?


You can never be too well versed. For example: What do you know about Hippo's?

Oh, and I officially declare that the Council's mascot should be a Hippo.
Anyone want to second that?

[Edited on 5/10/2005]

  • 05.10.2005 4:13 PM PDT

Ach! Was ist los?

I second that.

Long live the eight-gauge Hippo!

  • 05.10.2005 6:37 PM PDT
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I dunno... a man running and screaming in green is on my mind...

Tristan ;-)

  • 05.10.2005 7:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: Josher 35
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The thing is, even though post H2 members are allowed in the council, they won't be voted as much anyways. I am sure that most of you can't name any more than a hundfull you want in the council that are post H2. I think debating so much about this subject is a bit unnecessary.

H47 ;-)


I could name many, but there's hardly any old guys anymore. I'm not talking about post Halo 2. I'm talking about post New-hotness.


You aware are that "post-something" means after? Post New hotness would mean anyone who joined after the new hotness. ;-)

  • 05.10.2005 7:30 PM PDT
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Indeed it does... Josher, I think there are quite a few good members post-New Hottness. How many T&R guys do you plane to have in the Council? Compared to post Hottness and post 11/9.

H47 ;-)

  • 05.11.2005 3:59 AM PDT
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Posted by: Stickman Army
You aware are that "post-something" means after? Post New hotness would mean anyone who joined after the new hotness. ;-)


Yea, I wasn't fully awake and I was too paranoid trying to get Marathon for Reiginko's sake.

  • 05.11.2005 5:29 AM PDT
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Point and laugh at the idiot (me)

[Edited on 5/11/2005]

  • 05.11.2005 11:24 AM PDT

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Posted by: Pink Menace
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I suppose this idea is a ok compromise since older members are theoretically more versed in the ways of bungie than new members.


Why the theoretically? They are more versed. That isn't debatable. Someone who has seen Bungie in its former glory has seen more of it then someone who has not.


Its Theoretical because some of them haven't been here in years and never post. If they were active for all the time they have been apart of bungie then they might be more versed in the ways of bungie. Or they could be plain ignorant and just know nothing.

  • 05.11.2005 11:59 AM PDT

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Chairleg Productions presents: 'Console Wars' and 'Games as Art?' (also on Halo Waypoint).

Don't let my lists confuse you. I have made two. The one that you have quoted is a list of all people nominated in this thread up until the point that the list was made.

Theother is on Page 23. It lists people that have accepted to be potential members of the council.

-I suggest visiting page 23 ;)

  • 05.11.2005 11:59 AM PDT
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Point and laugh at the Idiot (me0

This is the latest list (on page 23)

Official Agreement list

* akba
* Aleph
* AlexZander
* antiherosk8er
* ApoX
* Atled
* Aznbanisher
* Banshee Barron
* Bestmasterchief
* BlackEye319
* BobBQ
* cmwak1
* Darkness1282
* Deathbringer5
* Eagle 117
* EAGLES5
* Gaara of Sand
* Ghandi 2
* Gods Prophet
* Gruntsbane
* Guardian Hunter
* Halo53
* Infil7rator
* Jason_4_04
* JAY132
* Jeff McRae
* Joe Halo Master
* JoeyBagaDonuts
* Josher 35
* Just Another Fan
* Kappin
* Lt Devon
* Mandalorianfett5
* Maraxus6
* marinealver?
* MilesCPO
* Mr Propaganda
* mrsmiley
* Obbiquiet
* PhreakShow
* Pink Menace
* Psyched
* Reconcilation
* Rip Saw
* VII Toast

  • 05.11.2005 12:09 PM PDT
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Ok, i havnt been active in this thread for awhile, and i dont have time to read all 8 or so pages i missed, so could someone please summarize what has happened so far?

  • 05.11.2005 12:15 PM PDT
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Ok then, here is a summary;

* Discussion about who has accepted a seat
* Discussing more responsibilities for members
* Argued over a suitable no. of members
* Created an almost complete list of member that have accepted a seat (see above)
* Discussed what sort of people to let in(B.net age/member since related)


It doesn't look much, but 6 or 7 pages have been filled with this.

[Edited on 5/11/2005]

  • 05.11.2005 12:31 PM PDT
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Jeez. Hmm...why does it seem like there are certain subjects we just can't get off of and finish? Well I guess I have no say...hmmm...Can someone please get some higher ups to look at this?

  • 05.11.2005 12:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: Lord Paul of Opp
Jeez. Hmm...why does it seem like there are certain subjects we just can't get off of and finish? Well I guess I have no say...hmmm...Can someone please get some higher ups to look at this?


Well we've kinda been talking about that too. We really ought to get goweb or someone to look over this thread again. Maybe i'll try askinng him to pop in...

  • 05.11.2005 2:27 PM PDT
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Yes, that would be i good idea

  • 05.12.2005 7:59 AM PDT
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so when does voting actually come around?

  • 05.12.2005 12:42 PM PDT

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Somehow I don't think its going to get to voting. If anything happens its going to be bungie staff that make the decision not us.

  • 05.12.2005 1:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: Guardian Hunter
Somehow I don't think its going to get to voting. If anything happens its going to be bungie staff that make the decision not us.


Agreed. Voting is going to be too complicated.

  • 05.12.2005 2:49 PM PDT

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There are 2 major things wrong with voting:

1. There is no way to create a poll with 66 choices

2. People with large chapter will tell are there members to vote for them boosting there scores quite alot.

  • 05.12.2005 5:37 PM PDT
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Agreed. Any sort of voting on the forums by Bungie members is almost impossible. This "election" is going to be decided by the Bungie staff if it gets together.

H47 ;-)

  • 05.12.2005 6:12 PM PDT
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Here is my idea;

Bungie staff do a poll between the 8 people, they see most responsible. The highest vote becomes council lead.

Staff and this person ramble this list down to say 20 - 30.

They are the council.
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This doesn't seem a good suggestion, but it is atleast a suggestion.

I don't see a problem with 66 members. If you think about it, the council member/normal member ratio will be 66/20,000.* Compared to the total community, 66 is a relitively small number.

*approximate figure

[Edited on 5/14/2005]

  • 05.14.2005 1:42 PM PDT

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There's not going to be 66 members, that's just a list of suggested members to be in the council. Not the size of the council.

Anywho, i don't see the need for a council leader, this'll just create more problems than it's worth. Why not just a have a democratic council?

  • 05.14.2005 2:26 PM PDT
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With a democratic council comes the need for a Council Head. Democracy fails when their are no leaders - any organization fails when there are no leaders, for that matter.

  • 05.14.2005 4:25 PM PDT
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Lets not get into anything even slightly political. And..Er.. I don't know if there should be a Council leader. If there is, he should have only a slight more power than the others. Nothing major.

H47 ;-)

  • 05.15.2005 5:15 AM PDT