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Posted by: The Holy Indian
LONG LIVE HALO CE, THE GREATEST GAME EVER MADE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH, ya that would be cool, lol


I take it you haven't played Marathon.

[Edited on 4/13/2005]

  • 04.13.2005 1:45 PM PDT
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There is no way it is not going to happen.

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Posted by: BlackEye319
There is no way it is not going to happen.


I have no idea what that means. Don't use double negetives.

  • 04.13.2005 10:35 PM PDT
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Posted by: HeavyMetal1
Posted by: BlackEye319
There is no way it is not going to happen.


I have no idea what that means. Don't use double negetives.


Are you saying don't not use affirmatives?



Ok, how about this: Could someone from Bungie respond to my question, why won't I ever see a live enabled verision of halo? Before someone posts "it'll never happen!": I want to know why...I've conceeded that I'll never get it...but why won't they do this. Also: I'm not looking for a patch....so don't post that faq again.

EDIT: They must be on a break or something with the forum is screwed up, they haven't locked that Mod Xbox/Halo 2 thread in this forum, and they usually lock those pretty quick.

[Edited on 4/14/2005]

  • 04.14.2005 9:04 AM PDT
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As much as I hated coping with the possibility of it not being revamped, I think Recon's post much earlier would have helped. *Applauds*

  • 04.15.2005 1:51 PM PDT
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Hi Recon:

First, Thank you for responding. I'm just fresh off readings Frank's update and the changes proposed do address a number of the issues that I have with the current implementation of MP for h2. I'm trying not to get my hopes up, but I'll reserve judgement until I've had a chance to play the game with the tweaks.

Secondly, transporting Halo to PC is a very different animal from Taking the most successful xbox game onto live...So I don't know if that's a valid comparision....I don't think it is.

Third, telling us to found a company is not really helpful, and telling me that if I'm not "willing or capable" to raise that cash I should "be prepared for and accept what ever they get"....Wow that's an amazing statement. So unless I have, what, access to 5-10 million bucks I have no rights to request anything of bungie?

But you have said something: "Get Bungie to license Halo (the code, the characters, everything) to your company for a XBL Halo project that your company will do the work and take the risk." Is that possible?, Doesn't wideload own the original engine?

EDIT: After reading your post again I see you essentially saying: If you can't make the game you want, don't ask us for it. I'm really shocked at the contempt you have for us. I'm pretty sure I've bought my last bungie product. So you've solved my problems with no Halo 1 on Live....Thanks!



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  • 04.15.2005 4:50 PM PDT
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Sadly dude, the truth does hurt....

  • 04.15.2005 5:29 PM PDT
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Question, Recon, about Halo PC... a week or so ago, it was number 7 in the top ten selling list, while Halo 2 wasn't even on the list. Wouldn't that make it a succesful game?

Even though I would love to see Halo 1.5 LIVE with new maps and new weapons (but with the game mechanics left completely the same), and think it would be a great idea, I've always considered Halo PC to be just that... Halo 1.5 . I personally love the game and play it religiously in spite of any problems.

So to people who want Halo 1.5, I suggest you get Halo PC for now. Once you learn how to configure it for your comp, and how to compensate for lag, you will get the great gaming experience that is Halo CE, at least equal to if not better than XBC. With new maps, vehicles, and weps, it's a good deal.

If you already own Halo PC and are dissatified with its performance, check out the following websites, they might help.

http://nikon.bungie.org/misc/halopcperformancefaq.html
http://www.computerbb.org/about1272.html


Halo LIVE would be cool and great,but I'm suggesting this as an alternative for the time being.

BTW, if you're a Halo PC player, keep your eye out for SA... that's me. :-p



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  • 04.15.2005 6:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: HeavyMetal1
Posted by: BlackEye319
There is no way it is not going to happen.


I have no idea what that means. Don't use double negetives.


I am surprised you noticed that. Heh, wanted to see what people would say.

Real meaning: It is NOT going to happen.

  • 04.15.2005 8:24 PM PDT
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finish the halo saga then go back and make a best of halo how does that sound, bungie cant go backwards at this point they have to complete whath they have started... but the best of thing would be cool... have the best maps from each halo then be able to chose between which game play dynamics you want to use from which game or mix and match

  • 04.15.2005 9:23 PM PDT
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there is always XBC

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Posted by: BlackEye319
Posted by: HeavyMetal1
Posted by: BlackEye319
There is no way it is not going to happen.


I have no idea what that means. Don't use double negetives.


I am surprised you noticed that. Heh, wanted to see what people would say.

Real meaning: It is NOT going to happen.


Well, it's not exactly the Davinci Code is it? ROFL

On another note. I got Halo PC also, but thought it was crap compaired to Halo CE. I even used my XBox controller but it just didn't have the same feel. Wasn't nearly as responsive to me. I have a good system, Raid drive, duel channel memory and all that. Just wasn't the same. I stopped playing it pretty quickly. For this reason alone I would be more than happy to flop down almost any amount of money for a Halo 1 Live version.

I think the person saying Halo PC was 7th in all time sales was mistaken. That or he got his information from a site that was mistaken or made a typo. He may be right, but Halo PC died off rather quickly once people saw the differences. While it was dropping off, Halo CE was still the best seller for a very long time for the XBox. Even when Halo 2 came out Halo CE was still ranked in the top five (I'm talking sales per week, not total sales) and was still at a $40 selling point at many places. I was surprised to see it go to a "Platnum Hit" for only $19.95 already because it was still selling very well after Halo 2 came out. And for $30 for a game that had been out for almost three years, that was pretty darn good.

And, as gratefull as I am for Recons statements, he still never explained why a topic about Halo CE was locked in the Halo CE forum.

  • 04.16.2005 12:58 AM PDT
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No, it wasn't 7th in all times sales. It was in amount sold per week. It was actually on the Halo.Bungie.Org front page.


I love both Halo Xbox and Halo PC. Since it's difficult for me to LAN with friends, I found that Halo PC was a good way to get multiplayer. While I would, as I said before, prefer being able to play Halo LIVE, Halo PC is good too.


Again, this is a difference of opinions. "Halo PC is crap while Halo Xbox is awesome."
I agree with the second part, but not the first. Halo PC is a good way to be involved in a large (always 1000 players on) Halo multiplayer community, and is a good way to hone your tactics, strategies, and teamwork.


Just as a side note... I own a good computer, but obviously not good enough to run Halo PC well. I have to put everything on lowest settings. Does this bother me? No, because the entire reason I like Halo is the gameplay, not because of flashy graphics.

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Posted by: WMACK101
Posted by: HeavyMetal1
Posted by: BlackEye319
There is no way it is not going to happen.


I have no idea what that means. Don't use double negetives.


Are you saying don't not use affirmatives?



Ok, how about this: Could someone from Bungie respond to my question, why won't I ever see a live enabled verision of halo? Before someone posts "it'll never happen!": I want to know why...I've conceeded that I'll never get it...but why won't they do this. Also: I'm not looking for a patch....so don't post that faq again.

EDIT: They must be on a break or something with the forum is screwed up, they haven't locked that Mod Xbox/Halo 2 thread in this forum, and they usually lock those pretty quick.


ok...it will not happen...it just won't it costs time and money, and if bungie keeps releasing old stuff...uhh what don't they have time for...c'mon I know you know this
thats right, the new stuff! I mean come on people give up
HALO 1 WILL NOT BE MADE FOR XBOX LIVE!.....put that in caps so that you may see it and understand it this time...it doesn't matter if the fans want it or not, I want sidewalks made out of gold, but will I get that no...my god!

  • 04.16.2005 12:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: Recon Number 54
Posted by: HeavyMetal1
And, as gratefull as I am for Recons statements, he still never explained why a topic about Halo CE was locked in the Halo CE forum.

At last, something that I can answer in only one sentence! Of course, it doesn't mean that the answer will satisfy. Here it is, in all of its glory and simplicity.

I don't know.


LOL...Well, for what it's worth, it is an answer. I guess I finally got what I was seeking.

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Its not an explination just a lame answer even though it is an answer and i guess the best recon could do. You still don't have your answer. The only person who could answer that is the person who locked it. I honestly don't care though and have no clue why i posted in this thread.

Its like asking someone if they like ice cream and they say "I don't know" You still don't have an answer.

  • 04.16.2005 9:56 PM PDT
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I suppose I need to support my statement about a XBL capable Halo CE making a "mint." I base my statement on what I think is common sense. First I consider myself an average Halo CE and Halo 2 player. I love both games and play about ten hours a week, and I think that I am of average skill. Look at my stats, nothing there to brag about. Anyways, as an average fan I can say that I would enthusiastically purchase an XBL capable Halo CE. So I base my statement on the assumption that if I would buy one all the other millions of fans would also. That may sound vain, but remember, this thread is merely about opinion and conjecture. Admitting my own nerdness here, when I was standing in the cold around 11:00PM Nov 8, I had this exact same conversation with the people in line. Again, everyone I talked to said they wanted to see this happen. Keep in mind I'm not a marketing major, but just a lowly Chem major. It's just my opinion, but I think the demand is there. Recon, you can bet if I won the lottery and had enough to make it work you'd see it happen.

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  • 04.16.2005 11:39 PM PDT
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Sorry about the delay in my reply.

Posted by: Recon Number 54
If you interpreted my response as containing contempt, I am more than willing and even feel obligated to apologize. First off, I am not a Bungie employee nor a Bungie spokesperson. I am a member of their fan community, nothing more.


I should apologize to you as well. I've seen some of your posts and you seem like a decent guy but I took the worst intepretation of what you said and ran wtih it.

Posted by: Recon Number 54
To your question of Wideload owning the Halo engine, they do not. Wideload has licensed it and are using it for Stubbs, but the Halo engine, property, characters, etc. are owned (to the best of my knowledge) by Bungie.


Thanks for clearing this up.


Posted by: Recon Number 54
I base it on the history that the same was said of Halo PC, which IS a valid comparison when we are talking about potential sales of the release. Both are slight alterations to a successful original product that is meant to appeal to a "wider and untapped audience". The PC market did not respond and I would suspect that the Xbox market would not either. "I already have Halo." or "I can play Halo 2 on XBL." would be (IMO) very common reasons given when asking the millions who have either title why they didn't purchase Halo 1-XBL.


I disagree strongly with this. Going from console to pc is a big leap IMO. I never have any interest in playing on a pc, and I suspect that's true of most console gamers. Also, halo was a revolutionary game on consoles, but just another FPS on a PC.

I don't know anyone who bought halo 2 that expected EVERYTHING to be different. Almost everyone of the massive number of pre-sales for H2 was in essence a purchase of halo 1 with live

Posted by: Recon Number 54
To use my post to come to the conclusion that Bungie has "poor customer service" or that they hold their fans in contempt is intellectually dishonest. NOTHING could be further from the truth and from my understanding of Bungie.


I've come to think that Bungie is extremely poor at managing public relations (this is not a knock....why should a game developer be good at this?) Furthermore, like many of the gameplay choices in H2, I feel like many of the interactions/statements by Bungie are poorly thought out before being released. I think this has been changing recently as lips have gotten tighter.

However, I don't think that I'm "intellectulally dishonest". I'm not using just your post, but numberous posts that I've read here by shishka and Achronos that are bordering on flaming at times (and not friendly burns but full on) Even more importantly halo 2 is just not a fun game with numberous errors and poorly thought out gamepley elements (however, this being the library, I won't go into this)

I loved halo, I bought an xbox, router (to play XBC) and really I got live about a year ago because I was anticipating h2. I played halo for four months, trying to convince myself that I liked it. I was quite aware early on that h2 had some problems, but I told myself over and over again that "Bungie made this....there's depth you just aren't seening it yet"

My ten 'real live friends' that I get together with on XBL have all gone back to counter strike. I wanted h1 so that we could someday play halo on Live. I am so disillisioned with Bungie now that I don't care anymore.

That bungie is burning through fans at the rate that I personally am experiencing should be worrying.





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Posted by: HeavyMetal1
How did this NOT belong in The Library?


THATS WHY I AM YELLING AT SHISHKA AND YOOZEL!!! ANYONE WANNA HELP? PM ME IF YOU DO

[Edited on 4/27/2005]

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Halo 1 for live would be the best, think of what the pay off for bungie and also since alot of people perefer halo 1 to halo 2 there would probably be alot more live subscriptions

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Yea halo 2 was fun yes but it seems that making online halo 1 would seem that halo 2 would suck and thats not true and besides if u want to go on halo 1 online use the computor one im not saying its a good idea i would love it but some ppl would be like no it woundt be a good idea if we have halo 2 aready and if we got halo 3 coming soon what the point ya knoW?


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