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Posted by: Killa Cam
actually i heard that the cheif was bleack when halo 1 came out, but after reading the books it says he has freckles.i dont want to admit this and im surprised that my blackness is letting me but, some blacks actually do get freckles u just cant see them as well. and his voice sounds like it could b either white or black.but i think that the cheif was originally designed to b black when halo 1 came out but he was later changed to white bcuse he was so popular (they changed jesus to white even though he was black)


Uh... Jesus wasn't black, what are you talking about. Take a look at what the people look like in Jerusalam, they aren't black. If anything Jesus would be a very tanned man simply because of the climate and the weather of the area where he lived, not black. On top of that Master Chief isn't black either. Fall of Reach pg 22: "The picture in the file showed a typical six-year old male. He had tousled brown hair and a sly grin that revealed a gap between his front teeth. A few freckles were speckled across his cheeks". You stated that black people have freckles which I dont deny is probably true, but you then stated they are not very visible. Evidently, John's freckles are fairly visible if Halsey and Keyes were able to see them in the picture without looking too hard. On top of that, black people do not have brown hair unless they are a mix of races, at which point they are no longer entirely black. The Flood pg 96: "His skin hadn't been exposed to the sun in a long time and it was white, too white... ". Now what more proof do you need, the Chief is a caucasian.

  • 07.08.2004 10:04 PM PDT
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easy tiger

  • 07.09.2004 5:11 AM PDT
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what if hehas no skin what if his armour is his skin or he could be like a charmelion

and i think his name is john doe

  • 07.09.2004 5:44 AM PDT

Ols Swedish Gunners

Who cares if he's black or white??? The chief is the chief!!!

  • 07.09.2004 6:06 AM PDT
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Who cares what his name is?

  • 07.09.2004 6:29 AM PDT
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Posted by: Boot117
[Uh... Jesus wasn't black, what are you talking about. Take a look at what the people look like in Jerusalam, they aren't black. If anything Jesus would be a very tanned man simply because of the climate and the weather of the area where he lived, not black. .


Um, ok.. I'll bite... Are you saying that the people indigenous to that area are just really, really tan?? lol... thats funny... it would have been more than a tan if that was the case. Its not like Jesus could whip out the old SPF 250 or whatever. Try sun burn, eventual skin Cancer, ect... Those people were of African decent. Dont forget that Moses (Isrealite) lived as the Pharoa's (African) grandson. I dont think they were just people with wicked tans!! lol... Not much seperates Africa and the Middle East (suez canal) so research something before u post it plz.


Back to the topic... Who cares if Chief is black, white or ??? I like the mystery of not knowing.

  • 07.09.2004 6:31 AM PDT
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good thang that he was not black

  • 07.09.2004 8:03 AM PDT
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who? what the BLAM are u tawkin about

  • 07.09.2004 8:04 AM PDT
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SOMETHING THAT we was talking about

  • 07.09.2004 8:06 AM PDT
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you are a good man so live the life and be good on halo 2 and dont for get and dont cus on here ok be nice or else i will be mad at you ok so thank about it for a wye



ps dont blow up the white houes

  • 07.09.2004 8:10 AM PDT
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first u need to stop CAPS LOCK on the first two words and stay on the topicso we dont get locked out

anyway the mc is a white man so blam!

  • 07.09.2004 8:10 AM PDT
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117!

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Posted by: Kwic Draw
Posted by: Boot117
[Uh... Jesus wasn't black, what are you talking about. Take a look at what the people look like in Jerusalam, they aren't black. If anything Jesus would be a very tanned man simply because of the climate and the weather of the area where he lived, not black. .


Um, ok.. I'll bite... Are you saying that the people indigenous to that area are just really, really tan?? lol... thats funny... it would have been more than a tan if that was the case. Its not like Jesus could whip out the old SPF 250 or whatever. Try sun burn, eventual skin Cancer, ect... Those people were of African decent. Dont forget that Moses (Isrealite) lived as the Pharoa's (African) grandson. I dont think they were just people with wicked tans!! lol... Not much seperates Africa and the Middle East (suez canal) so research something before u post it plz.


Back to the topic... Who cares if Chief is black, white or ??? I like the mystery of not knowing.


People from Isreal and that area aren't black, sorry. And yes, Jesus lived in a time of harsh climate, and a lot of sunlight, what does that mean? Thats right a tan. Obviously I am sure these people are naturally darker than caucasians, but you cant deny Jesus was not black, he wasn't.

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I think its john 'what the blam! is everyone talking about' smith...

I mean good god i have just read through all that and it is sooooo funny... stuff about jesus being black or not black here and there and a bit about how people from isreal could just be tanned or that black skinned people cant have freckles...

I think that everyone that post's on these forums must be insane to come up with some of the stuff that has just been said.... insane i tell ya... !

  • 07.09.2004 8:38 AM PDT
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Posted by: Boot117
Posted by: Kwic Draw
Posted by: Boot117
[Uh... Jesus wasn't black, what are you talking about. Take a look at what the people look like in Jerusalam, they aren't black. If anything Jesus would be a very tanned man simply because of the climate and the weather of the area where he lived, not black. .


Um, ok.. I'll bite... Are you saying that the people indigenous to that area are just really, really tan?? lol... thats funny... it would have been more than a tan if that was the case. Its not like Jesus could whip out the old SPF 250 or whatever. Try sun burn, eventual skin Cancer, ect... Those people were of African decent. Dont forget that Moses (Isrealite) lived as the Pharoa's (African) grandson. I dont think they were just people with wicked tans!! lol... Not much seperates Africa and the Middle East (suez canal) so research something before u post it plz.


Back to the topic... Who cares if Chief is black, white or ??? I like the mystery of not knowing.


People from Isreal and that area aren't black, sorry. And yes, Jesus lived in a time of harsh climate, and a lot of sunlight, what does that mean? Thats right a tan. Obviously I am sure these people are naturally darker than caucasians, but you cant deny Jesus was not black, he wasn't.


Ok, where in my post did I say that Jesus was "black". I said of African decent as are all people indigenous to the middle east. And by saying Jesus wasnt black, maybe very tanned, what is that saying? I doubt the he only had brown skin just due to tanning. lol. However, I dont want this to turn into a racial / theological debate... Due to the fact most that argue that get facts from a book made from scripture translations by King James with whatever he wanted to leave out, left out.. and translated to the meaning he wanted to give to the people. Oh, and thanks for only commenting on parts of my post ( not parts about Isrealites passing as Africans, ect..) but hey, this is a Halo2 forum, so.... STOP GETTING ME OFF-TOPIC!!!!

j/k lol...


  • 07.09.2004 9:25 AM PDT
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John is originally from Eridani Secondus i believe its been a while since i read TFoR.

without the proper cultural and racial references we can only speculate. for all we know he can be a russian or italian or something.

  • 07.09.2004 9:35 AM PDT
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I'm old... compared to most of the brats on here that sound like girls.

his last name is Miller because that my last name and my names John as well so I say it because it would be cool

  • 07.09.2004 9:46 AM PDT
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HE HAS NO LAST NAME. I mean he had one but when they stole him from his parents he was too little to rememer it and his parents died by the covies so no one knows... except halsey. She has to have it on file, but i could be that she left it at reach and forgot it so noone knows. It could be nunamaker for all i know. (Nunamaker is from Joe Dirt)

  • 07.09.2004 9:55 AM PDT
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byutior

  • 07.09.2004 12:18 PM PDT
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you would think there would be more than one file on him

  • 07.09.2004 12:27 PM PDT
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yeeeah

  • 07.09.2004 7:15 PM PDT
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i think its just lain old 117 seven and you guys who made those -blam!- jokes like pooopy pants and crap are a disgrace (no offense) but the chief has no last name , he is too cool for a last name and he is white steve downes does his voice and steve downs is white , also the bools say he is un humanly white and is not like the jacko and what the hell is this jesus is black jesus is white bull -blam!- MAYBE IN HALO 2 THEY WILL TELL US btw he is white

  • 07.09.2004 7:34 PM PDT
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he is white.....GHOSTLY WHITE, thats his SKIN COLOR no one knows what nationality, race, or creed he is, only form the books can we factually know his skin color, so get back the the post question....

his name is John.....but he reports to his superior officers as Master Chief SPARTAN 117

  • 07.09.2004 7:39 PM PDT
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Shaft - Theme Song
Isaac Hayes

Shaft
Who is the man
that would risk his neck for his brother man?
(Shaft!)
Can ya dig it?
Who's the cat that won't cop out
when there's danger all about
(Shaft!)
Right on
You see this cat Shaft is a bad mother--
(Shut your mouth)
But I'm talkin' about Shaft
(Then we can dig it)
He's a complicated man
but no one understands him but his woman
(John Shaft)

See, it all describes Master Chief to a Tee.

  • 07.09.2004 7:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: Doom Sticks
yeah that's it he's plaid... sheesh.

don't you guys know? his last name is "Bad Mutha Fu@*%er..."


Shaft - Theme Song
Isaac Hayes

Shaft
Who is the man
that would risk his neck for his brother man?
(Shaft!)
Can ya dig it?
Who's the cat that won't cop out
when there's danger all about
(Shaft!)
Right on
You see this cat Shaft is a bad mother--
(Shut your mouth)
But I'm talkin' about Shaft
(Then we can dig it)
He's a complicated man
but no one understands him but his woman
(John Shaft)

See, it all describes Master Chief to a Tee.

Sorry bout the double post.


[Edited on 7/9/2004 7:48:44 PM]

  • 07.09.2004 7:44 PM PDT

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