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Subject: Weekly What's Update: Massive Attack!
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Posted by: fauxfate
Oh, great, the cheaters have won.

The update is going to make things much easier for noobs. More powerful grenades and melee attacks!? WTF!? I feel sorry for the people that are going to fight me. I can kill them with one grenade and melee the s*** out of them with a freaking pistol! I had already mastered "jump melees to the face" but now I can do it while eating a sandwich! I had mastered grenades, but now I can blow people up while reading a book!

Weaker dual wielding....wtf. I never thought the sword was cheap, but now, it is. By weakening dual wielding, many options have been eliminated. I'll still win a lot, but this is truly retarded.

I felt bad when using a plasma pistol, because it was the only weapon that required absolutely no skill, so it made winning far too easy. But that, of all weapons, was not changed.

Good job to all the people that suck! You complained enough, that Bungie has made changes that are bound to make you complain some more. You've built yourself a deeper grave, because now I'm better too.

Bungie, I was satisfied with the fall of cheaters and the addition of 2v2. Hell, I forgave you for the fact that Halo's Campaign was and still is falsely advertised. Earth? What Earth? Oh, I imagine that you think the "mainstream" of players are getting what they wanted. In reality, it was just a bunch of noobs that sucked so much that they had to take the time to inform you of "-blam!- super weapons" and "unfair gameplay." The real mainstream of players don't really say anything.

The new maps better be damn good if I am to even consider forgiving you for this crap, and especially for resetting the levels.

If anyone thinks that I am an idiot, an ass, a loser, or otherwise a so called "noob", then be my guest and start posting your insults. I honestly don't give a f**k.


All of you who think that the new updates are horrible, have CLEARLY never played Halo:CE before. And you also suck. It's like the first Halo, except with better graphics and smoother gameplay! (Like how we all wanted it to be) Thank God for autoupdates

  • 04.16.2005 2:24 PM PDT
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i think its a good updates to sto the stand by and all that crap but i think its -blam!- that you guys are resetting the stats becuase some people worked hard to get their levels like in bigteam some slayer and other macth made games also if u did reset the stats the some noob could be facing someone that was a 20 in the past before they resetted the stats so it would be unfair macth settings.

  • 04.16.2005 2:34 PM PDT
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I think the autoupdate will be good and should fix everything. And for all the people who think that it is going to suck, play XBC instead of live.

  • 04.16.2005 2:41 PM PDT
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I am going to have the biggest nade fest!!!!!!!!! I already love nades now in gonna love em more.

Granades make me wanna lala, on the kitchen on the floor.

  • 04.16.2005 2:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: plaid ninga 243
i think its a good updates to sto the stand by and all that crap but i think its -blam!- that you guys are resetting the stats becuase some people worked hard to get their levels like in bigteam some slayer and other macth made games also if u did reset the stats the some noob could be facing someone that was a 20 in the past before they resetted the stats so it would be unfair macth settings.


Exactly what i was thinking. for people who care about their record the first few weeks will be matchmaking hell. ill probably get matched up against a past legit 30. and my record will suck, causing level raising to be harder, cause matchmaking to be a sucky expeirience. o god i think im having a asthma attack. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! *sweating profusely and shaking all over*

  • 04.16.2005 2:50 PM PDT
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What do you guys mean by "the fixes will make pushing the standby button "less worth while""??? Also, if you guys take away all the messages that say things like "you were killed by guardian 310" or "bob sniped bill" we won't know anything that is happening in the game, all of a sudden you will get sniped and you will have no clue who did it, THAT WOULD SUCK!!!! Just because a few NOOBS cant handle a few words on there there screen it will totally screw up the game. Thanks noobs for srewing up the game!, Bungie- if you are going to take the words away at least leave the ones that say " you were killed were killed by so and so." it wouldn't be that bad if you took out the ones that said what weapon you picked up though.


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  • 04.16.2005 2:53 PM PDT
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yay

  • 04.16.2005 2:56 PM PDT
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The people that think that "dual wielding" is being made weaker have never played Halo before.

It is NOT that dual wielding will be weaker. The point is to give people options to use in different situations. There are strengths and weaknesses now to dual wield, as well as strength and weaknesses to just going solo with a grenade. It's obvious that all you complainers do is grab a dual wielding combo and bumrush people, which requires no skill, strategy, and least of all, aim.

Now, with stronger nades, dual wielders have to be more cautious. It's pretty ridiculous that I know I can plow through a nade explosion with a smg/plasma rifle combo and still probably win against an smg, even if my shields are gone.

With the addition of a more powerful melee, it forces people to back up, take aim, and be cautious, rather than just running right into people's faces and employing the "spray and pray" method, which also negates one of the more crucial parts of a FPS: aim! It takes no skill to spam a dual wielding combo if you're right in the person's face, but now you have to watch out, and back up, and aim, for fear of being melee'd or grenaded.

That's the thing that people fail to understand. Dual wielding was designed, NOT to be better than single wielding, but to be better IN CERTAIN SITUATIONS. Likewise, single wielding will not be better than dual wielding, only, better in certain situations. This completely balances out the game.

If you spawn with an smg and a grenade, you can now, with skill and precision, take out a sniper or a rocket launcher. It's brilliant. Before, I could hit a sniper with a grenade, and still get sniped, because I was too far away to finish him off with an smg. The game will be so much more balanced, and people of all skill levels can compete, DESPITE weapon selection.

  • 04.16.2005 3:00 PM PDT
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Screw YOU!

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  • 04.16.2005 3:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: plaid ninga 243
i think its a good updates to sto the stand by and all that crap but i think its -blam!- that you guys are resetting the stats becuase some people worked hard to get their levels like in bigteam some slayer and other macth made games also if u did reset the stats the some noob could be facing someone that was a 20 in the past before they resetted the stats so it would be unfair macth settings.



Did you not read the update? Nobody trusts the levels anymore. To be perfectly honest, if I see a level 20 or above, I think "they cheated to get there".

Besides cheating, nobody seems to realize that the "Tie" glitch is being fixed- the glitch that automatically gives the last team that scored the WIN if there was a tie. This is a huuuuuuuuge glitch that has been going on for months. Hundreds of thousands of losses and wins were effected by this huge glitch, not to mention all the cheating problems. Out of people's "hard earned" levels, how many of those people gained wins OR losses by losing due to the tie glitch? I'd venture to say that this number is astounding, and thus, the leaderboards just can not be trusted, as they are completely inaccurate and totally messed up.

Besides, it's just a game. If you "worked" hard for it, then you probably shouldn't be playing games anyway. ;)

  • 04.16.2005 3:04 PM PDT
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Posted by: Lord Pyriel
Softening the Plasma RIfle / SMG combo!!!! Noooooooooooooooooooo, dont know if that is a good thing


WOW! you are pitiful. you need a cheap combo to survive! pitiful! thats all i have to say

  • 04.16.2005 3:09 PM PDT
Subject: Maps
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How many new maps will there be. Will they cost money? How BIG or how small will they be? I can't wait 48 hours to know!!!!

Well... maybe... but I still wanna know!

  • 04.16.2005 3:15 PM PDT
Subject: Weekly What's Update: Massive Attack!
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does any1 konw how much money the new maps will cost, how i can get them, and when?

  • 04.16.2005 3:31 PM PDT
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I here they are reseting the levels but i read that they are reseting leader boards. As in leader boards do they meen all of us or just the highest ranked players

  • 04.16.2005 3:36 PM PDT
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-SMG+Plasma Rifle Combo will be interesting to see. I wonder whether or not it will be balanced or just completely useless just like the shotgun (it needs a little boost too!). Glad you toned down the magnum too, since it+SMG was nasty.
-I'm glad that you toned down the SMG and not the plasma rifle, since the rifle is almost as worthless as the shotgun. But now everyone will be even madder about the crappy starting weapon...
-Very happy about the Brute shot improvements; it desperately needed it. I think it needs more ammo, though.
-Fine with the level start-over. If anyone is pissed that they'll be facing people 15 levels high than them at the beginning, then just wait a day or two playing custom games until the levels are separated. Plus, those people are rare compared to everyone else.
-Hopefully the melee and grenades will be fair.

I didn't see anything about Halo 2's magnetic bullets and aim assistance in the update...strange...that is what truly parts this game with Halo 1, and which is why I will continue to mainly play Halo1.

People liked the starting weapons with Halo 1 because it gave them a variety. The pistol for long range, assault rifle for short-range. In Halo 2, you only have a short-range, no long-range. Even if it was a single magnum, it would do wonders...
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  • 04.16.2005 3:46 PM PDT
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This is BULL! I have played halo 2 since it came out and I have worked on my stats really hard! Now bungie says they are going to reset my stats! NO! Why don't bungie go and pick out ALL of the cheaters and reset there stats! I will refuse to play this game if bungie resets my stats! I think some others fell the same way.
Please bungie, do not reset the real players stats. I know you can find out who is cheating, so please find them and either boot them, or RESET THEIR STATS!!!!!
Thank you, kilurman

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  • 04.16.2005 3:49 PM PDT
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A couple of things. The first one is for Frankie.

1. I love ideas behind the new matchmaking updates, but I have one question. What happens when somebody with the new 'version' of Halo2 plays someone with an old 'version' of Halo2?

2. EVERYBODY THAT IS CRITICISING RESETTING OF EVERYONE'S RATING: Please reread Frankie's article! Current levels have no significance in the new rating system!

3. The lack of Literacy is still a problem with many people. Please, for your own sake, give up some Halo 2 time and READ SOME BOOKS.

4. ALL HAIL ELO! The foundation of your precious ratings comes from Chess. Basic strategy can be learned by playing Chess! Basic Tactics can be learned by playing Chess! Chess is now a subject in many schools, why? It teaches critical thinking skills better and faster than anything else out there. If you want to get smarter with this easy game, try some internet games on Yahoo.

THANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOU Bungie for increasing MELEE DAMAGE!!! It's my fav by far! SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!

  • 04.16.2005 3:53 PM PDT
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HELL YES! gr8 patch guys. hope uve changed the overall feel of the game 2 - halo: CE owned it ther

  • 04.16.2005 3:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: kilurman
This is BULL! I have played halo 2 since it came out and I have worked on my stats really hard! Now bungie says they are going to reset my stats! NO! Why don't bungie go and pick out ALL of the cheaters and reset there stats! I will refuse to play this game if bungie resets my stats! I think some others fell the same way.
Please bungie, do not reset the real players stats. I know you can find out who is cheating, so please find them and either boot them, or RESET THEIR STATS!!!!!
Thank you, kilurman



Haha, you're actually going to STOP playing? What good do your stats even do you? They only exist for fun and to help match you with people of your skill. Kinda strange, man.

Anyhow, the update didn't say that they were toning down the SMG, just the SMG/plasma rifle combo. I don't think they're changing the SMG at all, just the way it combines with the plasma rifle to deliver ridiculous damage. Seriously, that combo rips people apart at close range.

I just wish they would tone down the plasma pistol/battle rifle combo. I think the only way they could do that would be to either 1)increase the time it takes to switch between weapons just slightly, or 2)make it so taht the plasma pistol overheats after it is charged for longer than a few seconds (that way people wont be able to run around charged and ready to pwn.... the 3) option is to make it so that you're unable to switch the plasma pistol until the shot plus the energy bar go all the way down (right now you can switch the MOMENT you fire)...

But yeah, when you run into that combo, you don't even have a chance to get a nade off or anything, its ridiculous.

  • 04.16.2005 3:58 PM PDT
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The correct manner to make a complete A s s out of somebody with improper grammar is to use (sic). If you quote someone and then use (sic) this means that while you were quoting the person, you did not make an error doing so. You don't see (sic) used much anymore, it's a shame because it is completely humiliating.

  • 04.16.2005 4:07 PM PDT
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So basicly people will be able to get in a game with out having to wait to get host.

  • 04.16.2005 4:09 PM PDT
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i agree with you in the fact that the PP and BR combo is to powerful... when i run into that combo i can't do anything about it unless i have one to... another way that they can change this is by making that if they hold down the charge it chews up the battery on the Pistol fast and by slowing down how fast it takes to charge up... i think people would be using less and less if they run into 2 people only killing one of them becouse he coulden't get the pistol charged up again befor the other guy killed him... he wouldent hold it down looking for people if the PP whent from 100% charge to 50% charge if he heald it down for over 30 seconds or so...

one thing i would like to add about the new patch that i don't want the more powerful nades to be over used becouse now i hate it when a hole team just stands somewhere chucking nades at with no real way to dodge them... but i like the fact that there is more powerful to even a single wealding person to a dule wealding person... but i guess that the more powerful nades is just a "duble edged sward"

  • 04.16.2005 4:11 PM PDT
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I agree with Pwnocchio, Master Chief should have to put that plasma pistol right next to his 'nutsack' after firing it fully charged. It would seriously slow down that switch to the Battle Rifle. But Pwnocchio, they stated that they were moving the weapons around, do you think this may have been one problem they were addressing?

  • 04.16.2005 4:12 PM PDT