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Subject: Weekly What's Update: Massive Attack!
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on the idea of getting 27 kills but your team losing and your rank going down, thast kind of nice to think of. I really think the way it should be is sort of an MVP kind of thing. The winning team, everybody gets experience, and the person who did the best on the losing team doesn't gain or lose experience, they just remain the same. It is pretty bogus when you dominate a game but thanks to your friends mom yelling at him he dies 15 times.

I just want to address all the people who think clearing the ranks is an idiotic idea. I believe this is a great idea. I don't listen to any of you who don't because none of you can support your opinion except for saying "I'm a 19 and i'm gonna cry over my rank" Why don't you just play the game for fun? Isn't that what the game is for? Starting fresh with everybody else in halo 2 is a great idea because you will actually see who is good and who isn't. It may be very sloppy the first day of resetting because the elites will be 1's just like the low levels. After a day or two it shoudl prove to be great though. I cannot wait for the ranks to be reset because then i can just get a clean start again.

I want some maps too!!!

Monday shall be a great day...halo 2 AU and Unreal Championship 2 releases....what else could i want? oh yah, pizza!

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  • 04.16.2005 9:36 PM PDT
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This is a great update, but despite the hard work you do there is always one person that is going to make it seem like you just have'nt done enough.. I guess today, I am that person.. The Sword!!! Why is it so powerful? in campaign the sword has a life span, but on live it lives forever! It ruins the game when your constantly being attacked by this thing, a one hit kill that requires no skill but to hide in a corner waiting for people to pass by is pathetic!! And to make matters worse it is only found in smaller maps where is it easier to peg off a lot of players. Why is'nt it in in Coagulation or Colossus because its useless! I don't know of any other weapon that is as useless that players would opt to not use it on certain maps. Players rely on this thing so much that you can actually hear the other team fighting over it or scramble for it when its dropped like it was their life line.
I have a better idea what to do with this sword to make it more skillful, when a player picks up the sword it should be powered up by their shield and by doing so makes the player more vulnerable by cutting their shield in half to keep the sword powered up, this way people can't rely on getting 20 kills in a game by using it so it would be an overshield in reverse and force players to only use it when its absolutly necessary..A back-up weapon.

  • 04.16.2005 9:41 PM PDT
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Just have one question? will their be any new levels and if so when will they come out and how do i get them.

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  • 04.16.2005 10:07 PM PDT
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ive come across anaother way of instant reload with in the game not hacks or ar although i do have ar that is not what im talking about i found a glitch in the game it self that alows u to instanly reload please send me a message back saying if you would like to see this to fix it or if its wrong to use in matchmaking

  • 04.16.2005 10:17 PM PDT
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Are those flying pickles in the Mister Chief picture?

  • 04.16.2005 10:32 PM PDT
Subject: ATTENTION ALL BUNGIE STAFF AND ESPECIALLY FRANKIE!!!!!
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you can't spell dawg...or use punctuation.

damn, i forgot to quote that guy....oops.

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  • 04.16.2005 10:43 PM PDT
Subject: Weekly What's Update: Massive Attack!
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ok heres some more stuff you can do bungie that can and will make you feel warm and fuzzy inside....
1. bring back humping ppl still do it and I duck to avoid things a lot but find my self to still get hit a lot
2 needs, you said it was worth while in e3 but sadly its still bad
3. the sword, personaly i don't think its that hard of a weapon to defend against but it sould have a life span and maby a two hit kill lunge, mabey
4.shotgun is fine cause it never works for me n e ways
5for the reset of stats 100% w/ u but I think with the change of game play there should be a decently long period of time to get used to it

thanks for taking the time reading this and I hope to have feedback if possible

  • 04.16.2005 11:14 PM PDT
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How can anyone complain about this update? This is the great feature that will always leave Halo2 one step beyond Halo:CE. AutoUpdate. I thought that Halo2 was getting to the point of me always having to dual wield weapons, which I really didnt enjoy. I will enjoy Halo2 much much more whenever I can rely on a single weapon taking down a dual wielder rather than the game basically becoming a full on Dualie fest. There were problems with weapons being overpowered (yes the magnum was overpowered and the damn Plasma Rifle/Smg combo was rediculus) that have now, wisely been taken care of. There should be nothing left to complain about. With the grenades being restored to their previous glory, now you stand a chance from the moment you spawn if you can chuck a pineapple, so no one can complain about the game being a big weapon race. Beat downs have also been returned to their high stature, which is going to cut down on much of the close range complaints, such as sword power, combo speed, etc.

Yes, stats being restarted is another great thing to happen. If you cant return to the level you have gained currently again, then you dont deserve the rank you have attained, whether that be because you have cheated, or just plain suck and cant win unless surrounded by a gang of people who are good. This gets rid of the cheater's pride, ruins their work, and makes the leaderboards honest. There are no legit 50s. Sorry, but there arent ANY.

Be patient for the maps to be released. They arent releasing a date for them to be downloaded yet because guess what boys and girls!! There might not be a date set yet. There isnt a cover-up going on a bungie to anger a group of 9 year olds who think that they need to have a date marked on their calender for the time when they will plop down at their xboxes and enjoy some new material.

All in all, this is going to be the greatest thing to happen to this game yet. (right next to team slayer being added to the playlist) People who are complaining either cheat or suck and are grasping for an excuse to keep their cheated garbage. The weapons DID need a change, and I applaud Bungie for bringing us this great gaming experience.

Well Done Bungie, and it appears the wait will have been worth it! =D

  • 04.16.2005 11:15 PM PDT
Subject: Total N00bs
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So liek i was liek playing last Monday and there was no updates rofl lol. Frankie, ur liek a total n00b at H2 and thats why u wanna liek reset ur stats cause ur a n00b rite. rofl lol. half the kids who post her (minus me cause i'm uber pro) are total n00bs and are liek "go bungie cause i liek play FPS and have no skillzzzz, i love u Frankie, ur liek a n00bs hero and stuff cause u can't pwn anything" rofl lol. So liek, u n00bs couldn't pwn ur way out of a wet paper bag rite. lol rolfl lol. so liek maybe u n00bs should stick with playing warcraft cause ur guys are liek the -blam!- and stuff. PEACE.

PS:. maybe liek Frankie i liek went on last monday and NO UPDATE liek a said before and now it's liek Sunday and stuff. ur liek a dirty liar.

  • 04.16.2005 11:24 PM PDT
Subject: Quit your beotchin
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I wish they werent taking away rocfket jump and stuff like that. The glitchs are always fun to do when you are bored. And also i love flying around with the sword. Me and my friends are having a tribute to glitchs right now. We are doing everyone we know. My live name is evildarkhamster

  • 04.16.2005 11:25 PM PDT
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So liek i was liek playing last Monday and there was no updates rofl lol. Frankie, ur liek a total n00b at H2 and thats why u wanna liek reset ur stats cause ur a n00b rite. rofl lol. half the kids who post her (minus me cause i'm uber pro) are total n00bs and are liek "go bungie cause i liek play FPS and have no skillzzzz, i love u Frankie, ur liek a n00bs hero and stuff cause u can't pwn anything" rofl lol. So liek, u n00bs couldn't pwn ur way out of a wet paper bag rite. lol rolfl lol. so liek maybe u n00bs should stick with playing warcraft cause ur guys are liek the -blam!- and stuff. PEACE.

PS:. maybe liek Frankie i liek went on last monday and NO UPDATE liek a said before and now it's liek Sunday and stuff. ur liek a dirty liar.

  • 04.16.2005 11:26 PM PDT
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So liek i was liek playing last Monday and there was no updates rofl lol. Frankie, ur liek a total n00b at H2 and thats why u wanna liek reset ur stats cause ur a n00b rite. rofl lol. half the kids who post her (minus me cause i'm uber pro) are total n00bs and are liek "go bungie cause i liek play FPS and have no skillzzzz, i love u Frankie, ur liek a n00bs hero and stuff cause u can't pwn anything" rofl lol. So liek, u n00bs couldn't pwn ur way out of a wet paper bag rite. lol rolfl lol. so liek maybe u n00bs should stick with playing warcraft cause ur guys are liek the -blam!- and stuff. PEACE.

PS:. maybe liek Frankie i liek went on last monday and NO UPDATE liek a said before and now it's liek Sunday and stuff. ur liek a dirty liar.

  • 04.16.2005 11:27 PM PDT
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Your the one that sounds like a n00b...

  • 04.16.2005 11:36 PM PDT
Subject: Weekly What's Update: Massive Attack!
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i dont think its fair to get rid of all glitches because i have fun in custum games playing around walking tops of levels finding places people havnet been. i dont use these in match making and im shur some people do thats y bungie whould just bann it from match makeing and i know im speaking for alot of people. standby is really beging to piss me off..if u have to cheat to win then u shouldnt be play matchmakeing because the point of matchmaking is to show how good you are.not how good u cheat. beause of this i cant ever level. i dont have a problum with people useing the the sword glitch because it takes some talant to do it during combat............ my point is i like to messaround sometimes,play games differntthat kids make like walking though walls and walkin on roofs in headlong ..its the people that uses this stuff in matchmakeing that mess it up for the rest of us...................

  • 04.17.2005 12:35 AM PDT
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will grenade jumping be addressed? as it is, only the host of a game is afected gravity-wise by explosions or can grenade jump. i think this is unfair and should definately be fixed.

  • 04.17.2005 12:43 AM PDT
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also, if you want to make it a little more halo 1 like, how about adding some body movements when you switch weapons so you can hump the person's body you just whacked in the back again. that sure was fun.

  • 04.17.2005 12:48 AM PDT
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BUNGIE, PLEASE READ THIS.

As a concerned consumer and hardcore player of Halo 2, but notsomuch Halo CE, I have to say, with unmitigated gratitude, thank you and well done.

When I heard about the changes, but did not come to bungie.net to find out about them, I will admit, I was shocked and frustrated that dual wielding was going to be 'toned down.' Why would you make Halo 2, with the super-new-awesome, much-anticipated ability to dual wield weaker than it actually is? After understanding why the changes were made, I am very grateful.

I speak for a very large majority, if not everyone, on the following points I am about to make:

1) The most important thing to the players are the grenades. I have thrown a grenade under so many people's feet only to see them distracted by the boom, turn to me with the PP/BR combo, and take me out, before any of my SMG bullets hit them. Encore for the changes. If I can kill someone with a frag grenade now, no matter how close I have to put it to them, I will be happy. Shortened detonations = brilliant. All the major things I had hoped for in the game with regard to grenades, you have done.

2) Melee. Fantastic. I hate not being able to kill a less-skilled player with two SMG's after I newly respawned with my single by meleeing him in the face several times before I die, and then, as he's standing there, looking over my body to see if I had any better weapon that he could take from me, someone snipes him to steal my kill. Bravo. Hopefully these changes will be extremly noticibly different, as beating someone down takes much skill.

3) I am glad the auto-accuracy of weapons will be turned down. Especially the pistol, although I would also prefer the BR to be toned down. The more skill involved with head-shotting, in my opinion, the better. It will continue to seperate good players from average players. Halo 2, unquestionably has the distinction of 'skill', moreso than Halo CE. With CE, you could just run around with your starting weapon (the pistol), chuck a few grenades, and be in the top 2, perhaps even win, if it was your first time playing. That should not be the case, and I am happy to see it come to completion in Halo 2, and now evenmoseso in the AU.

4) Thank you for toning down the SMG and Plasma Rifle combo. I could not understand, for the longest amount of time, for the life of me, why exactly someone could kill me with that combo more effectively than I could with a PP/SMG combo, after the PP hit, and I was at full shields. Thank you for changing this. Really. Thank you. This, I personally, am probably most happy at. Also, this is an extremely easy combo to complete on many, many levels. Thank you so much for toning this one down. Combos like the PP/BR are almost entirely too hard to get in many of the levels, (ex: midship, beaver creek, lockout,) and the player that does complete them should be rewarded for his tenaciousness in getting weapons fairly far away from each other. Moreover, I am glad the Magnum/SMG combo will also be taken down in power, (as I considered that one to be EXTREMELY over-powered, even rivaling the PP/Magnum in matters of sheer power capabilities).

5) Thank you for the resets. For all the complainers that worked 'so hard' to get that level 20, let me tell you, I suffer from extreme lag on XBOX live, because I am a college student at a small college with a 2.4 freq wireless network. If two people are downloading video on the entire campus, I feel it on live. I have to wait until 3 AM to play rated games. I have no trouble beating 20's regularly and easily, when I have no lag. I tell you this because I consider myself an expert at Halo 2, and can tell you that if you study the game, set up split-screens, sign in another profile and get a friend to play that profile, go up to each other with certain dual wielding combinations, see which ones kill the quickest, memorize how many carbine headshots it takes to kill someone, play weapon-specific gametypes with elite players, like snipers, rockets, etc etc, you can get insane good, even better than you are now. You can put time into being better, become better, show others that you're better, and brag to others that you're better, and earn that level 20 in less time than you would if you hadn't. That's what I'm going to do, and I do it not because I want to be the best on live, although I'm sure I could be if I had a good connection, but because I enjoy the game, and I enjoy being able to put a severe handicap on and beat out 10 players who've been playing Halo 2 every-day since Nov 9th by the margin of 10 or more kills, then joke about how bungie should make a 'no-possible way to win handicap'. Moreover, I just enjoy the game. I enjoy throwing grenades on corpses, and rocket launcher jumping beatdowns. I like killtaculars with a single clip on a human sniper and overkills with a sword. I think it's impressive.

I like having another shot to show people that i'm the best at Halo, period. I want that no. 1 spot in the leaderboards on rumble pit with my severe lag, even if it's just for five minutes before someone overtakes me. I want to be able to say, for however short a time it is, "I was once the best person in the nation at this particular video game." And while I might not have necessarily been, and that someone just didn't play an XBOX live game yet, and I played 200 and got 195 wins, enough to throw me into the no. 1 spot, I could still say it.

That's why I like the resets. Others might just want to brag about being no. 2565. I want no. 1. Others might just want to feel like they've accomplished SOMETHING. I want to say that I accomplished it all. Once I get to be no. 1, too, I'm going to just lay it down for someone else to take up, as well. I don't want it for an eternity. Just long enough to print out. I want that someone else to get my chance, and I want them to get that printed-out-sheet of paper. That's what I want. What do you want? Your little level 20 marker?

6) Thank you for the cheating fixes. Those are most appreciated. The glitch fixes are also appreciated.

7) This isn't so much for bungie as it is for everyone else. Alot of people really like sniping. That's fine. Good for you. Snipers are skilled at what they do. I don't consider myself a sniper, personally, although I'm very good with a sniper rifle. As the game stands, right now, on any skill level, expert (23 and above on rumble pit, for instance,) intermediate (11-22), and beginner (1-11), run to the sniper rifle, and try to get as many kills as possibly only using the sniper. Don't get the shotgun, don't get the sword. Then, get the sword or the shotgun, and run around, and try to kill as many people as you can. Then, get the SMG/Pistol combination, or the SMG/Plasma Rifle, or my favorite, the PP/Magnum combo, and run around and see how many people you can kill.

The snipers will have 15 kills when the game is over, the shotgun/sword users, if they're lucky, will have 10 kills, and the dual wielding guys will win. You don't win games by sniping, you win it mid-range. Moreover, dual wielders, as it stands, can also go somewhat long range. As long a range as the battle rifle will go, that is. Get an SMG/Magnum, and tap on the SMG until they get in range to use the magnum, then start capping away. Check out the statistics. So much talk and bashing goes on about the PP/BR combo from snipers and newbies. It's a great combo. Use it. Seriously. Whatever works, use it. Don't just hide out in your tower with your sniper or in the center room on lockout with your sword. You won't get kills. Seriously.

So could we please stop all the bragging about sniping, and could we start playing the game for kills instead of 'well, if you wouldn't use the PP/BR all the time,' talk, and just have fun playing the game?

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  • 04.17.2005 1:19 AM PDT
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am i the only one that is exicted by the fixing of the brute shot melee?

also... what is MLG?

  • 04.17.2005 1:20 AM PDT
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i love how some of u guys are saying omg i dont want 2 lose 17 i just got it. Who cares im a 24 in slayer and at first i was like wow this is -blam!- i juust got my 24, but then i realized with no standby i dont have 2 wait an hour to get host and get a game. I can just join up Dominate and level up. If you are good, then you should have no trouble leveling up.

By the way i really hope this isnt a joke about resetting stats because i jsut downleveld my self from 24-22 is slayer and a few other things. -Opps

  • 04.17.2005 1:21 AM PDT
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MLG

Major
League
Gaming

Is a gametype where a player starts out with a battle rifle primary weapon, no secondary weapon, and usually no motion sensor. All players have these start conditions.

  • 04.17.2005 1:28 AM PDT
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you know that at when you shoot to the bamshe whit the rocket you can fly away whit the special moves in the bamshe ....do you think that maybe was possible to go away from a rocket when you are in the car or the others vehicles?

its to hard to get away when you sit in the ghost, and some body shoot to your ghost and then you think '' -blam!- i'm dead '' and that is everything you can do.....that could be good if you do some specials moves to the others vehicles to try to get away from the rocket

  • 04.17.2005 1:45 AM PDT
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Learn how to drive man, u can dodge rockets in a pig... U r prolly jus weak at driving skillz... Keep trying, ps, powerslides dude powerslides

  • 04.17.2005 1:55 AM PDT
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I know this has nothing to do with the subject but I must know whats the difference between halo 2 ce and halo 2 ? and I mean in terms of game play not the dvd disk

  • 04.17.2005 3:16 AM PDT
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i woukd like the update but the thing i dont like is that ur rank is gonna restart, right.
and i will like to know when will the maps come out

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  • 04.17.2005 3:47 AM PDT