Halo 2 Forum
This topic has moved here: Subject: fake e3 03 video?
  • Subject: fake e3 03 video?
Subject: fake e3 03 video?
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

just watching the e3 2003 video again has led me to believe that is set set up. for example, near the very end, you have to jump onto a ghost so that you can eventually drive through the gate and eventually be chased by the phantoms. however, what happens if you simply jump into the gunner's seat of the crashed warthog and blow them up with the strange mounted shotgun? is there an alternate ending for the level? do more ghosts come along? do you automatically fail the missiona and have to start over? it's probably just me being paranoid, but there are other examples as well.

somebody said in another thread about the mission being open-ended. what happens if in instead if you getting into the gunner's seat after first seeing the hog, you jack it and drive it away? you could also just split down the road on your own.

there is also an over-reliance of set-pieces which you might miss, such as the massive Covenant gun firing at the building or the longswords blowing up the gun. im sure bungie wouldn't put so much effort into things like that if they thought that you could miss them. another example is the 'frag-and-clear' thing where the ODSTs through the FLASHBANG round the corner at the grunts.

like i said, it might just be me being suspicious of any move that bungie makes, but i can't help but wonder about it...

  • 07.11.2004 11:02 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

The SP mission played at the '03 E3 was just a demo mission.
It will not be in the final game.

  • 07.11.2004 11:24 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

That's not what they said!!!
It is the only confirmed SP mission right now.

  • 07.11.2004 11:25 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

1. Phantoms are indestructible, just like the dropship in Halo 1.
2. Its not a shotgun, its a rocket launcher, albeit a fast shooting one.
3. Its a frag grenade with the new blinding feature.
4. It won't be in the final game, at least not that exact mission. There may be a New Mombasa mission, but it will be different.

[Edited on 7/11/2004 11:28:09 AM]

  • 07.11.2004 11:26 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Dammit, but someone here said it was a demo mission!
MAKE UP YOUR MINDS!

Im going to go crazy soon.

Oh and it wasnt a fast-rocket launcher, it was teh Gauss cannon.

[Edited on 7/11/2004 11:28:40 AM]

  • 07.11.2004 11:27 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

And you think that was the final version? Please...

oh and btw, they said that there will BE things you wont see, unless u LOOK for them, but i dont really think you can walk down that path and not see the gun firing. *roll eyes*

Cheers,
~Kain

  • 07.11.2004 11:28 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

I think there's no other place you can go besides that road, and maybe if you jacked a warthog or something, the cinematic would show you in a warthog.

[Edited on 7/11/2004 11:30:50 AM]

  • 07.11.2004 11:29 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: Ops Agent 117
1. Phantoms are indestructible, just like the dropship in Halo 1.
2. Its not a shotgun, its a rocket launcher, albeit a fast shooting one.
3. Its a frag grenade with the new blinding feature.
4. It won't be in the final game, at least not that exact mission. There may be a New Mombasa mission, but it will be different.


1. All vehicles in Halo 2 are destructible, including dropships.
2. Its a guass rifle, it fires explosive? rounds
3. Its not a frag, its a flash grenade
4. It will be, but modified for a more freeflow gameplay

Sorry to contradict you but i had to clear that up.

Cheers,
~Kain

  • 07.11.2004 11:29 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Rith, its a frag grenade. It stuns the enemies that arent dead.

  • 07.11.2004 11:32 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

/Start Flame/
GODDAMIT. IN THE WORDS OF OUR F-ING MODERATORS: ITS NOT A FLASHBANG YOU -blam!-OT-ASS PANZY. AND ITS A F-ING ROCKET LAUNCHER!!!!!!!!! IT LOOKS AND SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE THE ZANZIBAR MAP YOU -blam!-!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /End Flame/

[Edited on 7/11/2004 11:33:58 AM]

  • 07.11.2004 11:33 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: Rith
Posted by: Ops Agent 117
1. Phantoms are indestructible, just like the dropship in Halo 1.
2. Its not a shotgun, its a rocket launcher, albeit a fast shooting one.
3. Its a frag grenade with the new blinding feature.
4. It won't be in the final game, at least not that exact mission. There may be a New Mombasa mission, but it will be different.


1. All vehicles in Halo 2 are destructible, including dropships.
2. Its a guass rifle, it fires explosive? rounds
3. Its not a frag, its a flash grenade
4. It will be, but modified for a more freeflow gameplay

Sorry to contradict you but i had to clear that up.

Cheers,
~Kain


It is a frag... there have been many discussions about this.

  • 07.11.2004 11:33 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Everything Rith said was entirely FALSE and NOT TRUE, except the free-flow thing.

[Edited on 7/11/2004 12:04:57 PM]

  • 07.11.2004 11:34 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: Covenant Ninja
/Start Flame/
GODDAMIT. IN THE WORDS OF OUR F-ING MODERATORS: ITS NOT A FLASHBANG YOU -blam!-OT-ASS PANZY. AND ITS A F-ING ROCKET LAUNCHER!!!!!!!!! IT LOOKS AND SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE THE ZANZIBAR MAP YOU -blam!-!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /End Flame/


Ninja, you have no idea what we're talking about. And its definitley NOT a rocket launcher.

  • 07.11.2004 11:34 AM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

remember,this was 2003. were in July 2004 now,so im sure a lot has changed by now. dont jump to conclusions about a game thats not even out yet,based on a demo made about a year ago. and the demo was only made to show off new features,like dual wielding,boarding,and some new vehicles and weapons. Bungie wasnt all concerned about things like the massive Covenant weapon emplacement.,and what other people could do,such as jack the Warthog. they were focused on just giving us a taste of whats to come.


and im not sure about the gauss rifle(yes its called a gauss rifle. it was on an official poll on the old B.net),but its sure as hell not a rocket launcher.

[Edited on 7/11/2004 11:37:41 AM]

  • 07.11.2004 11:35 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

It IS a gauss rifle or something of the sort (possibly and autocannon), not a shotgun, of rocket launcher. We did see 1 of the phantoms be destroyed by its own stupidity. Its a flashbang. And that level probably wont be in halo 2, it was probably just like a quick brainstorm (by quick, I mean relatively) of what levels should feel and look like

  • 07.11.2004 11:36 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: Rith
Posted by: Ops Agent 117
1. Phantoms are indestructible, just like the dropship in Halo 1.
2. Its not a shotgun, its a rocket launcher, albeit a fast shooting one.
3. Its a frag grenade with the new blinding feature.
4. It won't be in the final game, at least not that exact mission. There may be a New Mombasa mission, but it will be different.


1. All vehicles in Halo 2 are destructible, including dropships.
2. Its a guass rifle, it fires explosive? rounds
3. Its not a frag, its a flash grenade
4. It will be, but modified for a more freeflow gameplay

Sorry to contradict you but i had to clear that up.

Cheers,
~Kain


Ah... I was pulling the Phantom thing off of the E3 video because one got shot with the Guass gun thingy? about a dozen times and didn't seem to be effected.

P.S.: FRAG GRENADE :-)

And the only Phantom that was killed in the demo was in a cutscene, and they can screw with the physics engine there... Sorry for any confusion my idiotic post caused...

[Edited on 7/11/2004 11:39:38 AM]

  • 07.11.2004 11:36 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: Bearcat101
Posted by: Covenant Ninja
/Start Flame/
GODDAMIT. IN THE WORDS OF OUR F-ING MODERATORS: ITS NOT A FLASHBANG YOU -blam!-OT-ASS PANZY. AND ITS A F-ING ROCKET LAUNCHER!!!!!!!!! IT LOOKS AND SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE THE ZANZIBAR MAP YOU -blam!-!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /End Flame/


Ninja, you have no idea what we're talking about. And its definitley NOT a rocket launcher.


What the hell? I know EXACTLY what you're talking about! There's no magical guass gun! It was just a demo with things in it to make it easier, so the guy playing wouldn't look like a jackass! Watch the E3 2003 movie. Compare the SOUND and LOOK to the ROCKET LAUNCHER on the back of the Warthog in the 2004 MP Demonstration. Look, and compare. They're the same gun.

  • 07.11.2004 11:38 AM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

i doubt the grenade was a flashbang. it was probably a frag,but the flash from the explosion probably stunned the Covies. and did you notice after the Marines and the Chief killed the stunned Covies,the MC picked up some plasma grenades??

  • 07.11.2004 11:39 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

There was also many discussions on how people believed the earth was flat. But i watched the video again, it is a frag. That was my bad, i havent watched the clip in ages but w/e.

- ODST "Frag and clear"
- Blood on the walls
- They appear to have been hit by shrapnel, thats why they are all ****ed up.

Cheers,
~Kain

  • 07.11.2004 11:40 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

I never noticed that. Cool. (About Nedus' plasma grenade thing...)

[Edited on 7/11/2004 11:41:12 AM]

  • 07.11.2004 11:40 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

The reason it SEEMED like a "Guass Gun" was becuase the explosive projectiles being launched were going extremely fast. They PROBABLY slowed it down for MP becuase that would make it FAIR and BALANCED.

  • 07.11.2004 11:41 AM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

Posted by: Covenant Ninja
Posted by: Bearcat101
Posted by: Covenant Ninja
/Start Flame/
GODDAMIT. IN THE WORDS OF OUR F-ING MODERATORS: ITS NOT A FLASHBANG YOU -blam!-OT-ASS PANZY. AND ITS A F-ING ROCKET LAUNCHER!!!!!!!!! IT LOOKS AND SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE THE ZANZIBAR MAP YOU -blam!-!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /End Flame/


Ninja, you have no idea what we're talking about. And its definitley NOT a rocket launcher.


What the hell? I know EXACTLY what you're talking about! There's no magical guass gun! It was just a demo with things in it to make it easier, so the guy playing wouldn't look like a jackass! Watch the E3 2003 movie. Compare the SOUND and LOOK to the ROCKET LAUNCHER on the back of the Warthog in the 2004 MP Demonstration. Look, and compare. They're the same gun.



no they are not. there was an OFFICIAL POLL on the old B.net,that appeared after the E3 demo,asking what was your favorite new feature in the demo, and one of the choices was THE NEW GAUSS RIFLE ON THE WARTHOG. now who looks like a jackass??

  • 07.11.2004 11:41 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

in a very old update we heard that grenades stun what they dont kill also look at the pools of blood the grunts stand in and third the odst shouts frag out before he throws it

  • 07.11.2004 11:42 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: Nedus
Posted by: Covenant Ninja
Posted by: Bearcat101
Posted by: Covenant Ninja
/Start Flame/
GODDAMIT. IN THE WORDS OF OUR F-ING MODERATORS: ITS NOT A FLASHBANG YOU -blam!-OT-ASS PANZY. AND ITS A F-ING ROCKET LAUNCHER!!!!!!!!! IT LOOKS AND SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE THE ZANZIBAR MAP YOU -blam!-!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! /End Flame/


Ninja, you have no idea what we're talking about. And its definitley NOT a rocket launcher.


What the hell? I know EXACTLY what you're talking about! There's no magical guass gun! It was just a demo with things in it to make it easier, so the guy playing wouldn't look like a jackass! Watch the E3 2003 movie. Compare the SOUND and LOOK to the ROCKET LAUNCHER on the back of the Warthog in the 2004 MP Demonstration. Look, and compare. They're the same gun.



no they are not. there was an OFFICIAL POLL on the old B.net,that appeared after the E3 demo,asking what was your favorite new feature in the demo, and one of the choices was THE NEW GAUSS RIFLE ON THE WARTHOG. now who looks like a jackass??


Burn, dude, burn. You just got burned, Ninja.. Burned...

  • 07.11.2004 11:43 AM PDT
  • gamertag:
  • user homepage:
  • last post: 01.01.0001 12:00 AM PDT

Posted by: Rith
There was also many discussions on how people believed the earth was flat. But i watched the video again, it is a frag. That was my bad, i havent watched the clip in ages but w/e.

- ODST "Frag and clear"
- Blood on the walls
- They appear to have been hit by shrapnel, thats why they are all ****ed up.

Cheers,
~Kain


Quit saying that retarded "Cheers" thing. It's like you're trying to look important, but you are NOT.

  • 07.11.2004 11:43 AM PDT