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i know this is offtopic, but the reason i post it here is because i doubt anyone looks in the flood... and i am positive the most mathematically minded people are in the pc forum, so dont flame me, i am posting this interesting tidbit among those who will appreciate it.

that said, i have proof that 2=1

check it out

given a=b, you can conclude that a^2=ab, correct? (a^2 is a squared, cause there is no way to write in superscript in this forum)
next you can conclude that a^2-b^2=ab-b^2.
from here you can use reverse distributed property of multiplication, and find that a^2-b^2=b(a-b).
then, you factor the left side of the equation, and get (a+b)(a-b)=b(a-b).
after this, you divide both sides by (a-b), and get (a+b)=b
because a=b, you can substitute b in for a, and you get b+b=b
you add the two b's together and get 2b=b
then you divide both sides by b, and get 2=1

if you write this as a proof it would look something like this:
a=b |given
a^2=ab |multiply both sides by a
a^2-b^2=ab-b^2 |subtract b^2 from both sides
a^2-b^2=b(a-b) |reverse distributive property
(a+b)(a-b)=b(a-b) |factor
a+b=b |cancellation
b+b=b |substitution
2b=b |addition
2=1 |cancellation

i assure you that i have used nothing but legitimate mathematical laws, so is this true? whoever can tell me what is wrong first gets....umm nothing...

the satisfaction of knowing that they won!


once again, i politely ask you not to flame me for posting this where i feel it is in appropriate context

  • 04.22.2005 11:38 PM PDT
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OMFG Y R U POSTING IN TEH RONG FORUM U OFFTOPIC POOCOPTER!!11!1!!ONE!!1
Nah, just kidding. Nice work, the only reason that I could have to flame you is that you're way smarter than me!! lol.

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  • 04.23.2005 12:57 AM PDT
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a^2 isn't ab.....it's a2

  • 04.23.2005 3:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: AngelSlayer
a^2 isn't ab.....it's a2


Dude, a^2=aa, not a2. Dunno what you are talking about, but Heero is right.

  • 04.23.2005 4:38 AM PDT
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My brain hurts...

  • 04.23.2005 7:37 AM PDT
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Crazy, I can't find anything wrong, looks good.

Nice to know someone else has dealt with proofs. *I remember last year in geo/trig class....teacher gave us a 2-page proof as our final....what a b!tch*

  • 04.23.2005 10:47 AM PDT
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a^2=a*a=a2

  • 04.23.2005 10:49 AM PDT
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no, it doesn't. 2a=a+a (a*2). a^2=aa.

Man, this sends me back to a bad time back in middle school...

Yout3

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  • 04.23.2005 11:33 AM PDT
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aa=a2....


2a*3a= 5a2

2a+3a=5a

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  • 04.23.2005 12:17 PM PDT
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well, first off, you're implying that a=b, which simply is not true. a=a and b=b, but in reality, if you imply that a=b from the stat, you are gonna get some messed up results......

  • 04.23.2005 12:40 PM PDT
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^^^I also sort of felt that.

Besides, you end up with no variables, only multiplication factors. It would make sense if it went "2a=a". Actually in order to prove that point I think you'd actually need variables in the final statement of the proof.

2a=a...We know this to be impossible, except of course if you are talking about imaginary numbers instead of real numbers. Then you get into i, the greek alpha symbol squared (forget what it stands for in the imaginary number system)....but you get the idea. If you are trying to prove it in the real number system you KNOW it cannot happen.

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  • 04.23.2005 1:09 PM PDT
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a^2-b^2=ab-b^2
If ya just leave it at that it equals one. Why can't it be b=b? Man, I can't look at that for too long, makes my head hurt!

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  • 04.23.2005 3:39 PM PDT
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I'm only a 12 yr old. Go easy on me okay?

  • 04.23.2005 3:48 PM PDT
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E=MC2!!!!!!!!!! I would be turned into like 1080000000000000 joules!!!!!! Wonder if I could kill someone with that.

  • 04.23.2005 5:59 PM PDT
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Actually 2a=a can be true if a=0, so you don't need to involve any imaginary numbers. So you could also say that given that a=0, that 7a=13a, then if you divide by a you get 7=13. This is of course bs. Just because you can prove something mathematically doesn't mean it is true. I'm not saying this to bash Heero Yuy, I'm just saying this so all the 12 year olds that read this don't drive themselves insane.

P.S. why did you decide to post this in a Halo forum.

  • 04.23.2005 6:27 PM PDT
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e=mc2. It means nobody can go at the speed of light. If u go at the speed of light, u'll turn into energy.

They should rename this place the science channel rather than the maw.

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  • 04.23.2005 7:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: Aluminumfoilman
Actually 2a=a can be true if a=0, so you don't need to involve any imaginary numbers. So you could also say that given that a=0, that 7a=13a, then if you divide by a you get 7=13. This is of course bs. Just because you can prove something mathematically doesn't mean it is true. I'm not saying this to bash Heero Yuy, I'm just saying this so all the 12 year olds that read this don't drive themselves insane.

P.S. why did you decide to post this in a Halo forum.


True that. Besides, if two non-equal numbers are shown to be equal, isn't there a rule or something that states that the equation or statement that preceeded it is false? Hmm, can't remember the theorems and postulates...

  • 04.23.2005 7:44 PM PDT
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E=MC2 doesn't mean that we can't go at the speed of light, its the equation to see how much energy an amount of mass can be turned into. Speaking of going the speed of light, say we were in a spaceship that was going the speed of light, and we turned on a flashlight. Where would the light go?

  • 04.23.2005 7:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: Aluminumfoilman

P.S. why did you decide to post this in a Halo forum.


read my post EDIT: ohh! i thought you meant in the halo pc forum. well the reason i posted it here is because currently this is the only forum i regularly visit, and it was so awesome i had to spread it all over the world

for all of you that can't figure it out, try studying it at the point where it can no longer be true.

and a can equal b, because they are variables. using transitive law, if a=2, and b=2, then a=b. simple as that. so by saying that a=b, you are saying that no matter what a equals, b equals the same thing


and by the way, this is a false proof, so don't tell me it can't be true, because i already know ;)

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  • 04.23.2005 11:04 PM PDT
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and we turned on a flashlight. Where would the light go?


wth does that mean?

  • 04.23.2005 11:07 PM PDT
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how would you see the flashlight?

the light reflected off the flashlight would never get to your eyes

  • 04.23.2005 11:43 PM PDT
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You wouldn't see much at the speed of light. In fact you really wouldn't be much. Besides, it would take hundreds of years to accelerate to that speed while keeping an acceptable g-force.

  • 04.24.2005 12:35 AM PDT
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wtf stop going on bout e=mc2 basically it means energy equals the velocity of light squared
and if thingy is right bout 2=1 then he/she could win like a nobel prize for proving it!!!!
so go tell the man that does that nobel thingy


good luck


peace out

  • 04.24.2005 2:55 AM PDT
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It did end with two unequal multipliers, and in the world of equations that means you either did it wrong or used two non-corresponding variables...such as you hoped 2a=a, we know the variables we wanted, a and a, in that equation, were not corresponding and did not work.

I think that if you want to prove 2=1 you'd have to leave the real number system and the real number system theorems and postulates.

  • 04.24.2005 8:10 AM PDT
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Posted by: Heero Yuy

and a can equal b, because they are variables. using transitive law, if a=2, and b=2, then a=b. simple as that. so by saying that a=b, you are saying that no matter what a equals, b equals the same thing

and by the way, this is a false proof, so don't tell me it can't be true, because i already know ;)


in an equation you would never use two variables for the same thing, so a=a and b=b never a=b or b=a a^2 cant equal b it equals aa which can be b sometimes but not most of the time. second of all if you get something thats inconsistent like lets see 2=1 they call it NO SOLUTION. it will never be true.

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