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Aardvark, I actually haven't had the chance to catch up on your latest exploits, but believe me I will. There is coming a juncture in which I may stop working on PoR for a while, and during that small break, I will hopefully have time to catch-up on my readings. I want to incorporate more of the Halo 3 storyline into this, but in order to do that I will have to wait until Halo 3 is released... so I'm thinking of stretching out the story with some filler, meaning that POR could become another 20+ chapter story like IIWYH. But we'll see, I haven't committed to anything yet.


And Lai, I was stunned by your post. It was very... low profile-ish. lol Yeah, this is the last Flood wave on Earth for now, and you're correct about Gravemind. He's still out there, slowly drifting toward Earth with Cortana in tow. It will be a long while before they get to Earth, as I need to build up to that arrival and plan it out in accordance to the Halo 3 plot. So again, time will tell.

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It is so cool that you try to connect your fanfiction with the actually story. You know if you wanted to put POR on hiatus and do another background story with Jacob and Elana that would be cool. Or even more with Bitran and Lithran it would be amazing. It is just a thought, but I am really interested in post Elana's recovery and her and Jacob b/c if how I interpreted the story, This union and knowledge would eventually lead to the formation of the Israelites and their Covenant with G-d? I mean as a Jew, which I am proud of and you can PM ProfessorDime about that, that is what I inferred from the geography of the story and the words used in this game and fanfiction.

I would also like to know about that female that Simyaldee fell in love with and was sent to a far away area b/c of the Prophets (I think). That would be a side story well worth developing. But alas these are just my hopes and desires.

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  • 04.19.2007 10:53 AM PDT
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“Sorry Rose.” Wesley stated. He slung his rifle over his shoulder and handed Eric a data pad. “It’s all the training.” The door behind the Marines opened and a dark room lay beyond.


^^^ this paragraph on page 1 has an error. "He slung his rifle over his shoulder and handed Eric a data pad".. eric slung his rifle over his shoulder and handed himself a data pad?

just constructive criticism, and nice stories!

  • 04.19.2007 11:30 AM PDT
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now i know i haven't been posting much but dang, it just gets better and better. also, how did eric survive, i mean, he couldnt have been more than 20 feet from the blast and at that, bleeding from the eyes and ears destroying flood with an M90? that's just inhuman, almost...spartan...like?

  • 04.19.2007 4:40 PM PDT

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that's just inhuman, almost...spartan...like?

Interesting point. Black Ops are what you would call Spartan III's, alpha build.

Xx Twiceborn xX
Try the fanfiction.net post of it, there are less errors there

SPARTAN 1O4FRED
I concur.

Soul Guardian
Remember the ship-hip error? Twiceborns post brought up the memory.

And Lai, I was stunned by your post. It was very... low profile-ish. lol Yeah, this is the last Flood wave on Earth for now, and you're correct about Gravemind. He's still out there, slowly drifting toward Earth with Cortana in tow. It will be a long while before they get to Earth, as I need to build up to that arrival and plan it out in accordance to the Halo 3 plot. So again, time will tell.

~soulguard


Thought that might be the case with Gravemind. It just seemed that you weren't leaving any snide hints for your readers, so I decided to put some in.

I was wondering if you were going to follow the storyline of the Halo Trilogy, well Halo 3. The Fluffy Bunnies ... trilogy, fitted in so well with Halo 1 and 2, but GoO, kinda screwed you up. I'm glad you are still hoping to keep it as faithful as possible. I thought it was a big leap putting the flood and The Arbiter on earth, and as an alliance, but time will tell if the bungie gods (who are still secretly reading this) are going to help you out.

Off-Topic, I noticed yesterday that people didn't really like playing as the arbiter, yet they find the whole aspect of an alien culture fascinating.

Random .......... Post, So ........... segmented ....................... no o

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Spartan 104Fred Yeah, from the beginning that was my goal. But my eagerness to to get the story done slapped me in the face when GoO was released. Bah! Now I'm forced to somehow ignore AND incorporate GoO. I'd really like for people to stumble across this Fic and can actually see where things are hapenning as they are playing the game/reading the books, hence the title "Side Story Trilogy". And the connection with religion is very forward, particularly with Guardian of the Lumnious Key. While I'm not trying to downplay God and the Jewish struggle, I was making it obvious how important religious beliefs play into our myths and legends. I'm Christian myself, and I have tons of Jewish friends, so it pleases me that I can connect with both crowds.


Xx Twiceborn xX Yeah, as you read on you'll find more and more little grammar misfires throughout. Especially in SFFH, and IIWYH. I'm slowly getting better (read, less lazy), but mainly I hope it doesn't interfere too much with your enjoyment of the story. Thanks for reading and welcome to the Thread. :D

HLC 3 Where have you been? lol. It has been awhile. Thanks for stopping by. Well, he was pretty banged up, but the way I see it... the building absorbed most of the explosion but shockwave still had an affect on him. And as Lai said, Eric and his group were the test subjects for the Spartan III's on Onyx (yeah, the dates are slightly off, but we'll forget about that small part for now, but I do have a solution that will appear in Level 6. lol) So yeah, they are essentially Spartans... because of the recruitment method they are similar to the I's, but they have the muscle capacity of the II's, but they don't have the super skeletal structure of the spartan II's, so this makes them III's, yet they don't have the augemented genes of the III's... so this makes them basic super soldier Spartan's of unknown rank... which is a good reason why Ackerson didn't care they they were supposed to die after the initial training and testing (IIWYH: Chapter 11: The Dark Side of Troy). hope you got all of that... there will be a test. lol


x Lai Tasha x GoO messed me up big time. But only in the Doc Halsey and Kelly department. I really wanted to figure Kelly in as the last pure blood Reclaimer, and I was hoping that Doc Halsey was actually looking for more Forerunner data. But Mr. Nylund decided that it would be more fun to create a whole new world full of Sentinels and then stick Halsey, Kelly, Fred and LInda inside a Dysons Sphere!
Basically, he threw a wrench in the story to make it less obvious where the story is headed.

The Flood and the Arbiter on Earth is inevitable for H3. I really can't see a way around it for the Bungie writing team. I can see Arbiter spending more time on Delta Halo and High Charity then eventually joining the Chief on Earth. Their paths have to cross again, from a writing standpoint it would be illogical for the Arbiter not to come to Earth in some way knowing that in order to Aid his Kin (The Sangheili) he must take the fight to Truth and the Covenant. He knows of the Prophets betrayal (Halo 2: The Great Journey). But knowing Bungie, and the road Mr. Nylund took with GoO, there is no telling what path the Arbiter will take in order to get to Earth.

Spec Ops Commander, R'tas Vadommee tells the Arbiter that he will take back the Brute controlled ship on Delta Halo, the ship you see before you enter the Control Room as the Arbiter. From what I can gather, this will be the Arbiters form of transportation to High Charity to face Gravemind/Cortana. After this, things get foggy.

As always with the Halo series, time isn't clear. During Halo 1, it wasn't until I read "the Flood" was it made cleat that more then a week passed from when the Pillar of Autumn crashed untill it's destruction.

As for people not likeing the Arbiter, I take that to people not understanding the direction Bungie is taking Halo. The story is perhaps the most compelling of any game i've ever played. Bungie shifted from a one dimensional Hero, to a multilayered story that went beyond Halo 1... the story was great, the game play still suffered from the "not as many fun moments as Halo 1" but clearly, Bungie stepped up in their writing and editing direction. Halo 2 plays more a like a movie and less like a game, which hurt it a little, and the Arbiter's story was simply awesome. But many players don't "Listen" to the dialog of the NPC's so they didn't understand why they were fighting the Brutes and not killing humans. I think if some people would go back, play the game, listen to the Arbiter's progression (from killing the Heretic Leader, through standing at 343's and Commander Keys side), they'll have a knew appreciation of Halo and the future.


Hmm... I hold here for now.
~soulguard

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Soulguard
GoO messed me up big time. But only in the Doc Halsey and Kelly department. I really wanted to figure Kelly in as the last pure blood Reclaimer, and I was hoping that Doc Halsey was actually looking for more Forerunner data. But Mr. Nylund decided that it would be more fun to create a whole new world full of Sentinels and then stick Halsey, Kelly, Fred and LInda inside a Dysons Sphere!
Basically, he threw a wrench in the story to make it less obvious where the story is headed.


I wasn't gonna mention that because I saw the discrepancies, but would rather take your work as Canon since it is so well done and helps explain things about the universe that I had often wondered, and while it isn't officially sanctioned by Bungie, it is nice to see something written that is of their, Bungie's, quality, being written by their fans; and then other fans appreciating the work of another fan. It is something specially you have created Soulguard.

Soulguard
Spartan 104Fred
Yeah, from the beginning that was my goal. But my eagerness to to get the story done slapped me in the face when GoO was released. Bah! Now I'm forced to somehow ignore AND incorporate GoO. I'd really like for people to stumble across this Fic and can actually see where things are hapenning as they are playing the game/reading the books, hence the title "Side Story Trilogy". And the connection with religion is very forward, particularly with Guardian of the Lumnious Key. While I'm not trying to downplay God and the Jewish struggle, I was making it obvious how important religious beliefs play into our myths and legends. I'm Christian myself, and I have tons of Jewish friends, so it pleases me that I can connect with both crowds.


It is something I found most intriguing about the Luminous Key was how integrated the Ark of the Covenant in the Jewish Dogma was to your story. It was like Wow!!!!! I love things that play on History and create a new fiction, like Angels and Demons and the Da Vinci Code.

Soulguard

So yeah, they are essentially Spartans... because of the recruitment method they are similar to the I's, but they have the muscle capacity of the II's, but they don't have the super skeletal structure of the spartan II's, so this makes them III's, yet they don't have the augemented genes of the III's... so this makes them basic super soldier Spartan's of unknown rank... which is a good reason why Ackerson didn't care they they were supposed to die after the initial training and testing (IIWYH: Chapter 11: The Dark Side of Troy). hope you got all of that... there will be a test. lol


I could have sworn that the Spartan III's had the bone augmentation, they just didn't have the Mjolnir armor that helped to protect the Spartan II's. It was just my assumption that all the bio-augmentations done by Kurt were the same as his "family". What Kurt changed were some of the brain functions for Gamma squad because he saw what happened to Alpha and all but two of Beta squads. Just what I remember.

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s for people not likeing the Arbiter, I take that to people not understanding the direction Bungie is taking Halo. The story is perhaps the most compelling of any game i've ever played. Bungie shifted from a one dimensional Hero, to a multilayered story that went beyond Halo 1... the story was great, the game play still suffered from the "not as many fun moments as Halo 1" but clearly, Bungie stepped up in their writing and editing direction. Halo 2 plays more a like a movie and less like a game, which hurt it a little, and the Arbiter's story was simply awesome. But many players don't "Listen" to the dialog of the NPC's so they didn't understand why they were fighting the Brutes and not killing humans. I think if some people would go back, play the game, listen to the Arbiter's progression (from killing the Heretic Leader, through standing at 343's and Commander Keys side), they'll have a knew appreciation of Halo and the future.


Your so right. It took me replaying the game to fully appreciate the story, especially the Arbiter's story. I love this game and how Bungie changed Halo 1 to Halo 2. I am also amazed at how they have expanded their verse to such an extent that over time, if movies come out, this could become Star Wars-esque.

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Soulguard

So yeah, they are essentially Spartans... because of the recruitment method they are similar to the I's, but they have the muscle capacity of the II's, but they don't have the super skeletal structure of the spartan II's, so this makes them III's, yet they don't have the augemented genes of the III's... so this makes them basic super soldier Spartan's of unknown rank... which is a good reason why Ackerson didn't care they they were supposed to die after the initial training and testing (IIWYH: Chapter 11: The Dark Side of Troy). hope you got all of that... there will be a test. lol


I could have sworn that the Spartan III's had the bone augmentation, they just didn't have the Mjolnir armor that helped to protect the Spartan II's. It was just my assumption that all the bio-augmentations done by Kurt were the same as his "family". What Kurt changed were some of the brain functions for Gamma squad because he saw what happened to Alpha and all but two of Beta squads. Just what I remember.
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Yeah, you're right. Kurt made the changes, but I could have sworn that the III didn't have the bone augmentation. I'll have to reread "Ghost of Onyx", I've only read it once, and seeing the direction I'm taking this story... I'd best read it again.

Thanks for the correction.
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Oh not a problem. I was just under that impression b/c of the massive amount of muscle mass they III's have to where the SPI armour and to be that physically fit. I don't have the book in front of me, but for some reason I think I remember reading a part where Kurt says something about the only difference "his" Spartans would have to the other Spartans would be their armor and the redesigned aggression. While I was on the phone and talking to a bleep-bleep from Publix, I found this link for ya Soulguard.

Augmentation Procedures

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very cool. Good old Halowiki... I've seen this a few times, but I never paid much attention. Haha

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To answer your question i dont believe that there were bone augmentations done to the spartin III's although on page 107-109 you can read one of the two references to the mutagen drugs that kurt authorized for his spartins.

Dont know if that will help answer or clear up any questions or creat more but just thought ide say.

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How is this relevant to this subject?? Are you a spammer??

Onto Soulguard and the guy two above. I checked out Augmentation Procedures and assuming that the Spartan III's have the same enhancements as the Spartan II's with less of a failure rate because the ONI has had twenty or so years to improve the enhancements. Meaning there would be less failure rate and better results. I am under the impression that the Spartan III's have the same bone enhancements as the Spartan II's but changes that Kurt made for them to be more resilient under pressure and near shock.

Soulguard,

Have you thought about what I said at the end of last wk. I think Lai agreed with me on it.

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Wow, I guess being gone for several days at a stretch tends to get one left behind fairly quick around here suddenly... you know before it seemed nobody was wont to post really, but now I feel like I missed something. I did notice that Soul didnt answer my innitial query... but the second one was okay, cos I understand completely when a guy like that can't have time out for something else. I'll just e-mail it to Aozora's GF so she can read it to him and I'll get my review that way.

Good to be back, and good to see everyone is alive and well. My little sister just flew in from ND, yesterday, so she is jet-lagged and bleary-eyed and I need to be looking after her until the disorientation passes. That and one of our puppies is hallucenating... ugh, by the Rings, gimme a break!

Pretty please? Back to topic... I havent seen hide nor hair of this new book Nylund put out on Bungie's behalf, but I'm looking forward to finding it... What's the gist of it, is anyone here willing to tell me?

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  • 04.24.2007 1:01 PM PDT

“But I will for their sakes remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the heathen, that I might be their God..."

Soul,

Man do I have alot to catch up on. It's not much different than having an extensive study course and missing three weeks of lecturing. Only, unlike lectures, I actually miss your posts / writings - hah! Just a quick note of support and a chance to say hello. Maybe I am not suprised to see you understand what the following passage means, but I am glad. Keep in touch brother!

“And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”

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Welcome back. Hope it was restful. I thought I answered your question about your FF, if that was what your were talking about. It's the first post up top. But basically, I will be reading the most recent updates.

Rampant Truth
Another of our old theorists shows his head. Thanks for stopping by Rampant, and yeah, I had to look it up, but I understand. Hope you get to catch up soon!

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update
Really quick, I found this very interesting and had to share it with you all.

If you think my story idea about the Flood arriving on Earth is a bit, "far fetched"... read here Pay close attention to Anderson's last few lines in the quote.

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hey all i know it has been a long time since i have posted but i am still here reading in the shadows observing all movement, silencing any who stand in our path, man i miss the Mirratord.

Soul what can i say, its been great, a bit different but all of the elements are still their and i am really enjoying reading each and every update. The key is one thing that is nagging at me and i dont think that anyone has picked up on it. the Key was held by Regret thanks to Rose we all know this (well i hope we all do) how did Cortana get it?? it was a phyical Key that Rose gave away, how does a A.I get hold it, how does it become digitised and how did she get it from the gravemind assuming that it had it after it took Regret. mmmmmmmmm interesting

other than that felt for Palab and felt that that may happen, question why did the other grunts back in elite homeworld and on Eric's captured ship regonise that he was a leader?? or is it because they had been told before hand that Palab was a heretic??

anyways i look forward to reading more as always

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Soul what can i say, its been great, a bit different but all of the elements are still their and i am really enjoying reading each and every update. The key is one thing that is nagging at me and i dont think that anyone has picked up on it. the Key was held by Regret thanks to Rose we all know this (well i hope we all do) how did Cortana get it?? it was a phyical Key that Rose gave away, how does a A.I get hold it, how does it become digitised and how did she get it from the gravemind assuming that it had it after it took Regret. mmmmmmmmm interesting


Welcome back tejan55. I think we all can agree on missing the Mirratord. It has tapped our collectivity greatly. Different, how so? Now, the Ship core ... ahh... the possibilities. But i will actually make this pretty clear by answering it directly. In Halo 1 and 2, we see that the 343 Guilty spark and Cortana are able to "digitize" the Index. My theory on this is that the index (as well as the Forerunner Ship Cores) are more then just objects. They are data, Solid Data Holograms. I know, it sound a little absurd, but think back. The Forerunners have holographic touch screens all over Halo, teleportation technology and powerful way of transferring power. So, with this, is it hard to imagine that if you know how to control the Index, and turn it into its digital data (Cotana in halo 1) then she should be able to take the Crystal (which acts almost like the Index; shifting shape glowing and controls the ships), and do the same thing. But this is just my little theory.

other than that felt for Palab and felt that that may happen, question why did the other grunts back in elite homeworld and on Eric's captured ship regonise that he was a leader?? or is it because they had been told before hand that Palab was a heretic??

anyways i look forward to reading more as always

Tejan55

Good question, but it was mainly that on the Elite home world and Eric's captured ship, they were under the leadership of the elites and had not been brainwashed into believing that Palab was a Heretic false Messiah. The Grunts follow power absolutely, and even though they respect the Elites a little more, the Brutes have instilled a little fear into them as well as the promise of the Great Journey; that is a very powerful tool. Hope that helps.

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Level 6: Family Matters is coming along nicely. Basically it is done, but not checked. As I said before, this chapter will take a much needed break from some of the action, but I promise you'll like the flow of it. And I've already dipped my toe into Level 7!! Action packed, wall to wall choas, screaming, babies crying... and the Cute Fuzzy Bunnies may even find the Happy Land of Sugar Free Marshmallow Candy. YAY Happy BUNNIES! XD

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  • 04.26.2007 10:42 AM PDT

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Is it?

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Level 6: Family Matters is coming along nicely. Basically it is done, but not checked. As I said before, this chapter will take a much needed break from some of the action, but I promise you'll like the flow of it. And I've already dipped my toe into Level 7!! Action packed, wall to wall chaos, screaming, babies crying... and the Cute Fuzzy Bunnies may even find the Happy Land of Sugar Free Marshmallow Candy. YA Happy BUNNIES! CD

~soul guard


? What ... The ?

Soul what are you on, if its sheer adrenaline I want some.

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There are literally moments where my mind feels like it is going to explode if I don't write. Its like the story elements burst into my frontal lob and i sit and write for hours. HOURS!

I wrote 22 pages of material on Wednesday. Of which only about 15 of it was for level 6 and another 7 for level 7. so a lot of editing to do... but I burnt out. So I think tonight I'll be watching some movies and reading Aardvarks story... so far behind.

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  • 04.27.2007 10:07 AM PDT

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22 pages nice. I must say a break from the action is needed to enhance the plot.

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Well, shot myself in the foot, here... explain later.

Anyway the actual query I wanted answered the most, Soul, was how I increase the attention (aka advertising) for my thread where the story is. Whether or not you were reading it could have waited for the next post but hey- it happens. Guess I'll need to update the thread, cos I have more material ready, I've just been too lazy to actually post it because I'm always having trouble with the char limit. (leave it to me to omplain about something as benign as that.) There was this one segment of time where I think it was four guys posted on it, but then they all got real quiet.

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cheers Soul i do remember the index now :)

yea i was thinking that for the grunts of Truths battle group, cant wait for the next update

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Posted by: soulguard
There are literally moments where my mind feels like it is going to explode if I don't write. Its like the story elements burst into my frontal lob and i sit and write for hours. HOURS!

I wrote 22 pages of material on Wednesday. Of which only about 15 of it was for level 6 and another 7 for level 7. so a lot of editing to do... but I burnt out. So I think tonight I'll be watching some movies and reading Aardvarks story... so far behind.

~soulguard


Wow Soul. Man your amazing. Hey did you ever consider what I mentioned about doing more side stories since your gonna take a break on POR.

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