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"It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me."

Posted by: Tartan 118
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Posted by: SonicJohn
Are there any Mythic Members who have not been blacklisted or warned? I have a feeling that one of the requirements to reach Mythix is to have some warning/blacklist history. If only for the sake of the persons understanding rules that much better.
Sorry John, your feeling kinda makes sense, but there are plenty of Mythic Members with no warnings or blacklistings. Including many of the site's admins, Bungie employees, and Forum Ninjas.

Not including Urk and Duardo :P
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Each ban was my own doing...except for a warnings a couple years ago

  • 04.02.2009 9:35 AM PDT
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"But, doctor...I am Pagliacci."
Posted by: bobcast
I hate you unless I'm drunk.

This is even more support for my plan of keeping my head down until I reach a higher level where I will be able to get away with more stuff ;)
lol. Im kidding.

  • 04.02.2009 9:38 AM PDT

Without me, it's just "Aweso".

I would assume that the only reason it seems that mods are more lenient when it comes to higher ranked members is because when a mod bans a legendary or mythic member, they could lose their title bar color immediately, making it seem like it was a heroic or normal member who was banned.

  • 04.02.2009 9:39 AM PDT

You just got Shakespeared!

I havent gotten anthing yet

  • 04.02.2009 9:43 AM PDT
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‘The conscious is cancerous if allowed to linger’

"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."

My thoughts are that it is, or rather should be, a double edged sword.

They will likely have an advantage for minor offences as many mods have commented on due to an evident ability to contribute constructively rather than destructively. However, I would imagine that for major offences or blatant/idiotic rule breaking they should/will be hit by the hammer harder; they should have a greater understanding of the rules due to their longer membership duration.

They should be setting an example, failure to do this should quickly end their trust displaying title bar and prevent it popping up again for quite a while.

This is my personal opinion anyway and how I think things should be handled for general cases.

-spelling and grammar fixed in edit-

[Edited on 04.02.2009 9:47 AM PDT]

  • 04.02.2009 9:45 AM PDT

I would imagine, yes. I made a painfully obvious troll post in the Halo 3 forum a while ago -- and normally (from my experience), a troll would've been instantly nuked. But all I got was slap on the wrists and some free hugs D:

  • 04.02.2009 9:54 AM PDT

Posted by: SonicJohn
Are there any Mythic Members who have not been blacklisted or warned?

I have been.
I know I'm not Mythic right now, but I've just not been active. I will be again in a few days, I'm sure. So I thought I'd contribute :).

I'm a completely selfish guy, so I don't mind getting a little leeway for having a higher title. However, I must say that I really like Pezz's reasoning on page 1, the first part of the post.

Is it fair? No, not necessarily. But if those members generally help and stuff... a little leeway is perfectly understandable in my opinion. Unless a rule is really broken, like flaming or bypassing the filter or whatnot (though I've bypassed it a couple times myself- always for the sake of the discussion).

  • 04.02.2009 9:59 AM PDT

Posted by: Bapabooiee
I would imagine, yes. I made a painfully obvious troll post in the Halo 3 forum a while ago -- and normally (from my experience), a troll would've been instantly nuked. But all I got was slap on the wrists and some free hugs D:

Yes, I've seen the rise of trolls getting slightly more annoying.

  • 04.02.2009 10:05 AM PDT

I only ban blue bars.

I'm coming for you next, Skib.

  • 04.02.2009 10:07 AM PDT
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‘The conscious is cancerous if allowed to linger’

"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."

Posted by: The Slayer
I only ban blue bars.

I'm coming for you next, Skib.
You should have stayed in HFCS during April fools, then you'd have had a legitimate excuse.

There is always next year though ;-)

  • 04.02.2009 10:10 AM PDT

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[Edited on 04.02.2009 10:32 AM PDT]

  • 04.02.2009 10:32 AM PDT
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She like to call me Tyson when I nibble on her ear.

They should grant leniency to potential Mythic members as well.

  • 04.02.2009 10:37 AM PDT
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Posted by: bobcast
I hate you unless I'm drunk.

Posted by: NoNeckin
They should grant leniency to potential Mythic members as well.

EVERYONE is a potential Mythic Member.

  • 04.02.2009 10:40 AM PDT
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‘The conscious is cancerous if allowed to linger’

"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."

Posted by: burritosenior
Posted by: SonicJohn
Are there any Mythic Members who have not been blacklisted or warned?

I have been.
I know I'm not Mythic right now, but I've just not been active. I will be again in a few days, I'm sure. So I thought I'd contribute :).
A little quicker than a few days ;-)

  • 04.02.2009 10:46 AM PDT

(random yet funny signature goes here)

I don't think it's the color bar so much as the person behind it that gets the leeway. I've seen several longstanding members post against the rules or spam, and instead of warnings or locks, the mods actually posted in the thread going along with it.

Take BB for example (no offence guy) but I remember when he posted a "This is my ___ B.Net birthday, cheers for me" here in the septagon. This would normally get locked, and probably a warning, since it went against the "specific user threads" and generally didn't belong here. However, most of the mods actually posted in the thread with congrats and many more posts. I know for a fact if I made the same thread, I'd get it locked, and while I might not get banned, I'd probably get a "This is not your blog" response.

So to sum up, some people are allowed to bump elbows with the mods and step on their toes a little since they know them so well.

  • 04.02.2009 10:51 AM PDT
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Posted by: bobcast
I hate you unless I'm drunk.

Posted by: TOM T 117
Posted by: burritosenior
Posted by: SonicJohn
Are there any Mythic Members who have not been blacklisted or warned?

I have been.
I know I'm not Mythic right now, but I've just not been active. I will be again in a few days, I'm sure. So I thought I'd contribute :).
A little quicker than a few days ;-)

I thought titles only updated once a day?

  • 04.02.2009 10:55 AM PDT
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‘The conscious is cancerous if allowed to linger’

"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."

Posted by: MikeNeel
Take BB for example (no offence guy) but I remember when he posted a "This is my ___ B.Net birthday, cheers for me" here in the septagon. This would normally get locked, and probably a warning, since it went against the "specific user threads" and generally didn't belong here. However, most of the mods actually posted in the thread with congrats and many more posts. I know for a fact if I made the same thread, I'd get it locked, and while I might not get banned, I'd probably get a "This is not your blog" response.
The reason the thread didn't get locked from observation is that had a discussion point, it wasn't just a plain "It's my Bday wootz" thread. I recall some form of reflective discussion, it had a blog element but it could be related to and the motive and interpretations from the post gave it enough reason to remain open; of course the thread could have merited a lock and some form of lenience was present however you can't put that down to favouritism or a bar colour when the thread has some discussion purpose.

  • 04.02.2009 10:58 AM PDT
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‘The conscious is cancerous if allowed to linger’

"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."

Posted by: ImTriForceGuy
Posted by: TOM T 117
Posted by: burritosenior
Posted by: SonicJohn
Are there any Mythic Members who have not been blacklisted or warned?

I have been.
I know I'm not Mythic right now, but I've just not been active. I will be again in a few days, I'm sure. So I thought I'd contribute :).
A little quicker than a few days ;-)

I thought titles only updated once a day?
They don't anymore that is for sure, criteria seems to be changing all the time. For example Capt Molo changed to Mythic as I quoted him yesterday, before I clicked quote he was Legendary, on the following page he was Mythic. Obviously my action didn't influence the change however it certainly seems to be updating much more frequently than it has in the past; Tartan 118's title also changed yesterday for extra evidence.

  • 04.02.2009 11:00 AM PDT

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"I have no words that would do justice to the atrocities you commit to the English language, as well as your continued assaults on the concepts of basic literacy and logical reasoning."

This. A known member (irregardless of title) is more likely to get away with things because they know the line they can't cross, and moderators know they know the line, and allow them to skirt it a bit. This isn't bias, this is making a judgment call about trust. Sometimes those calls are wrong, and a ban must be issued.

Posted by: Old Papa Rich
All bans are judgement calls.


The title system for displaying the trust rating sure has had some interesting side effects. A great social experiment, IMHO. There are lots of different places we could take it, you know. The current system was mostly set up as a way to not constantly just have "Member" for everybody, and the trust system was the datasource because we didn't have anything else to base it on. I often wonder if it would be better to link it game participation (probably keeping the prefixes, I like those) and just lose the Heroic/Legendary/Mythic. Maybe as we make more games available we could think up some alternate stuff. But in the meantime, watching how you guys behave relating to a somewhat arbitrary rating is very intriguing.

  • 04.02.2009 11:01 AM PDT
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‘The conscious is cancerous if allowed to linger’

"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."

I often wonder if it would be better to link it game participation (probably keeping the prefixes, I like those) and just lose the Heroic/Legendary/Mythic. Maybe as we make more games available we could think up some alternate stuff.Linking it to game participation is a direction I would not like to see the system take. One immediate issue I can see is people regarding these titles much as they do with the Spartan vs Elite scenario. I think the titles should stay related to forum participation and on site activity rather than off site activity, it just complicates the affair.

The current system is trust rating based hence elitism is less likely to spawn (as those with higher trust ratings should know better), I fail to see how this could be controlled on a system based off site without trust ratings still being heavily weighted.

I wouldn't mind the removal of bar colours, it makes some posts stand out more than others which, in a community based on equality of members, (we'll ignore the employees for the sake of argument) isn't really ideal so in that sense I wouldn't mind the removal of the heroic/legendary/mythic titles (don't tell Skibur).

watching how you guys behave relating to a somewhat arbitrary rating is very intriguing.I'm more than a fluctuating number, I swear!

[Edited on 04.02.2009 11:13 AM PDT]

  • 04.02.2009 11:03 AM PDT

yoo•zel- ('yoo-zhul): slang: vb.

Officium quod Fidelitas.

I thought the best social experiment was how people react to their blacklists? Hm....

  • 04.02.2009 11:10 AM PDT
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Posted by: Yoozel
I thought the best social experiment was how people react to their blacklists? Hm....

I do indeed see what you did there good sir.

  • 04.02.2009 11:11 AM PDT
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‘The conscious is cancerous if allowed to linger’

"Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just sit there."

Posted by: Yoozel
I thought the best social experiment was how people react to their blacklists? Hm....
I respond with "OMG this is freaking ridiculous" because it almost* always is.


*Keyword covers me, see the useless qualification Critical Thinking isn't entirely useless.

  • 04.02.2009 11:15 AM PDT
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Posted by: Primum Agmen
A tosser is the same as a wanker. To toss oneself off is to fondle the trouser weasel.


Achronos

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Posted by: The Slayer
I only ban blue bars.

I'm coming for you next, Skib.
That somewhat fits your username. Heh heh

  • 04.02.2009 11:17 AM PDT