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Subject: Halo and Doom

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Halo 2 forever.
Half-Life 2 for a week, then Halo 2 Forever Again.

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  • 07.13.2004 10:38 AM PDT

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Yes, detailed and uninspired graphics sure are exciting to look at. Pity Id doesn't care if you enjoy the game or not because they're more interested in selling the engine than the game itself. At least, that's the only way I could justify a game with skeletons with rocket launchers on their shoulders.

  • 07.13.2004 10:47 AM PDT

I don't care about Doom 3. Half-Life 2, on the other hand, I do.
Oh, and the screenshots that I've seen of Doom 3 really aren't as good as everyone says.

  • 07.13.2004 11:40 AM PDT
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Doom3's graphics better?

On PC? Yeah. Youre right.

On Xbox? Not even close.

I am somewhat interested in Doom3 though. We'll see how it turns out fairly soon.

  • 07.13.2004 11:56 AM PDT
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ive played the doom 3 leak, its pretty fun to play, but as graphically goes 2 words "HALF ASSED", they textures look like pure -blam!-, theyre soo blurry, they only thing that saved them was bump mapping, they made everything shiny too, that makes up the bulk of the rendering, the textures sucks ass,,.,,... if theyd made the textures better and didnt make everything shiny then maybe people with moderate comps could play it, its runs pretty badly on my comp, my video is radeon 9000 128mb, 256 ram, 2.7ghz pentium 4 processor,.
half life 2 is a wayyy better game,...........oh ya so is halo2, couldnt forget about that...

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  • 07.13.2004 12:18 PM PDT
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Doom 3 is more in direct competition with Half Life 2 rather than Halo2, which is why Carmack pushed so hard to have it done for August.
While I'm definately getting it, HalfLife 2 will be an undeniably better game. When you spend an entire day doing nothing more than screwing around with a game's physics engine, you know it's gonna be special.

Of course, Halo 2 has something neither title has... um, the...Hotness.

Yeah.

  • 07.13.2004 12:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: Arch Vile
Also, don't ever forget...no matter what you think you believe, you wouldn't be playing Halo or Halo 2 if it weren't for Doom and its followers...


That is one of the most dumbest things I'v ever heard dude. Doom was for the pc not for xbox for one thing. Before i got halo I never even played Doom 1 or Doom 2. Now Doom 3 will have good graphics but it's not gonna be better than Halo 2's because remember, Bungie has upped they're graphics too. And another thing is that Doom's plotline is wearing away. There's only so much doom you can have in the world.

  • 07.13.2004 2:08 PM PDT
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Doom 3 I am not very interested in, but Half Life 2 on the other hand looks very promising. I think Half Life 2 will surpass Halo 2 in sales, but both Halo 2 and Half Life 2 look like they could be some of the best games we play in the next few years.
Is Half Life 2 still in production for the Xbox?

  • 07.13.2004 3:10 PM PDT
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Reaper, I think he meant that Doom was and has been (and still is) credited as THE first-person-shooter. It wasn't the first, it was the second, and with it's engine, if not it's content, it brought a whole new age to gaming for years upon years to come. Halo along with every other FPS out there is justifiably indebted to Doom if not Wolfenstein 3D (the first FPS ever, made by id Software as well). That's not to say someone would have never come along had it not been for id introducing FPS, but they were the first and it's undeniable that it sparked what is probably the most fanatical video-game 'genre' today (if not RPGs, I guess).

Graphics are another thing. Bungie did say that the graphics shown at E3 were off an older build and would have minor to major differences in the final product depending on what you're looking at. Doom III certainly has my attention, it looks fun, very atmospheric and scary and a nice twist on the old concept. I trust in what Carmack is making as he hasn't failed us yet with Doom or Quake (J. Romero is another case... well, he sort of helped to make Ion Storm, that is he allowed them to rise from some ashes... and they made DX). I've played the Alpha leak as well, which, mind you, is v0.1-- if you handed me Halo 2 v0.1 I don't think it'd look as good as Halo 2 v1. We'll tell what it will be like in time, I don't know why there's a chip on people's shoulders about the graphics not being good. I certainly don't know why the graphics in D3 are being called 'unoriginal', if that's the case then the same could be said for H2 as well if not moreover (you certainly can't forget about the classic movie by J. Cameron called 'Aliens' can you?). D3 is id's take on the future using all their ideas old and new; that includes the skeleton with the rocket launchers on his shoulders-- an old staple of Doom II; the Revenant (and if Planet Doom is indeed correct, then all the old baddies will be back, some revamped, some not, like the Revenant).

I like Halo, and I like Doom, and I think Halo 2 is going to beat the snot out of Doom III as far as gameplay goes, I'm just not hearing very justifiable claims here. As for HL2-- well, it can do whatever it wants to do. I'll make sure to play it just to play it, but I'm not near as excited as everyone else is about it. My cup of tea is the one that Halo fills quite nicely, as well as games like Doom, Painkiller, etc. While I'm also akin to FPS like DX and the like, HL2 just doesn't look like it's going to be as much fun to me as it will be to everyone else. Good looking for sure, but I prefer to keep my games' gameplay a lot simpler (a philosophy that Miyamoto and Carmack both seem to agree well on, and possibly from the looks of Marathon and Halo-- J. Jones) and refrain from having to remember a variety of buttons. To me, the ideal FPS is indeed Halo.

  • 07.13.2004 6:10 PM PDT