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Thanks Bungie for taking the time to create another AU to make the Halo 2 Live experience a more fun one. Don't listen to the minority that thinks these changes suck, the majority thinks they rock and so do I.

  • 04.29.2005 7:25 PM PDT
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what the hell... when ever i click the link to the WWU it always says it Included Message not found???? what the hell.

  • 04.29.2005 7:30 PM PDT
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what the hell when i click the link to the WWU it always says 'Inculded Message not found' how do i see it

  • 04.29.2005 7:31 PM PDT
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Great to know all this
Cant wait to see the playlist update and hear more on the other 5 maps

  • 04.29.2005 7:35 PM PDT
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i love tha maps

  • 04.29.2005 7:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: S4rg3
I am so pissed off about the new playlists comming out. Team Rifles? WTF?! that is so stupid, and for team slayer human weapons because little newbs got pissed cause they were getting owned by the br/pp combo! The new maps could me much better the updates suck balls, grenades are -blam!- now, ctf with covenant vehicles is retarded everyone will just whore the ghost, it is just soooooooo stupid. No radar for head to head is also -blam!- retarded.... just because a couple of newbs don't like doesn't mean you should take it off. Also king of the hill and oddball for head to head is dumb as hell. Bungie this is one if the most stupid things you have done with your games, especially this one. You should reset everything the way it was. It was obviously more fun that way. You should add MLG Gametypes to the playlists and get rid of what ever the hell you guys are going to add. I bet you any skilled player will agree with me on what i just typed. Most of the people that complain shouldn't even be playing this game in the first place. Most of them are 12 years old and they don't know any better cause their little minds are still growing...... SO PLEASE BUNGIE ALL I AM ASKING IS THAT YOU JUST RETURN EVERYTHING THE WAY IT WAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT WAS A BAD MOVE FOR YOU GUYS TO DO THIS.

GT:I Dozer I ( the I are i's not l's)


^^^Lmao, dude. I agree with what you just said. Especially the "brain still growing" thing. just becuase someone cant learn to defeat/ use the br/pp combo they're going to remove the pp.. that's lame.. If you people dont want the pp/br combo play a godamn custom game and turn them off. Which reminds me, I heard a briliant idea in one of the Forums... make it so you can check off each weapon you want available in a game. Oh yeah, one last thing.... NiGHT_LeGEnD I agree with your online Co-op mode. But as far as the new maps... you're on your own with that one.



i love it how every1 just ignored them
stop complaining cause all u can use 2 kill us is the pp/br combo

  • 04.29.2005 7:39 PM PDT
Subject: You Fixed What Everyone Didn't Complain About
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Bungie, I understand you guys and gals are very hard working and very busy on what your are doing, and I respect that. You guys are always on-top of trying to please ur customers. So, as a customer, I will suggest something that might make the game more funner and less predictable of the outcome. Colossus, a fun map at some times unless the other team has the sniper rifle. Basically the sniper rifle owns that map along with the Battle Rifle/ Plasma Pistol combo. I havent heard one person complain about any other dual wielding combo or any other combo besides the BR/PP combo (before the autoupdate). But you guys didnt fix that. You fixed everything else instead of the main source of complaints. I know it would be hard for you guys to take out the plasma pistol or the battle rifle is some maps, but the worst people could win with the BR/PP combo. It takes no skill to charge up a plasma pistol and shoot someone in the head with a battle rifle. your should at least make it not possilbe to hold both the weapons at the same time if you cant take either out. It takes no strategy, no skill what so ever to use that combo. So that basically cuts out who is good and who is basically a "noob." Now that you have lowered all the other weapon's abilities, we stand no chance to the BR/PP combo. It would be impossible to win a one on one battle like that. I mean, dont get me wrong, I have used the BR/PP combo in my history, and I have heard people complain and complain about it, but hey, i do the same thing. The BR/PP combo basically owns Colossus, along with the sniper. If any thing, sniper actually. Whoever spawns closest to the sniper, i would have to say basically wins the game. I wish i didn't know the outcome of the game before i even get to kill someone. The sniper rifle at Colossus kind of ruins a point to have matchmaking and ranks, because it doesn't matter who has the sniper, that team basically wins. My wish is for bungie to fix some issues like this and spend less time on the stuff that we didn't want fixed in the first place.

Thanks for the maps bungie, you did a great job on them. They were more than i expected.

  • 04.29.2005 7:53 PM PDT
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Yeah i just want to say to S4rg3 and every other player who is pissed about the pp being taken out of those 2 maps, you call us newbs, but why? The only reason you "seem" or "feel" better than us is because you use the overpowerd combo, so really your skill is irrelevant, like someone who cheats and gets a good record. While i know its not cheating, it is a comparison, and by calling us newbs because we dont use a near skill-less combo that is killer is just stupid.

You're clearly worried that your record will get worse.

Just my thoughts.

[Edited on 4/29/2005]

  • 04.29.2005 7:53 PM PDT
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i used the PP/BR combo a lot, but realistically it was only because if i didn't, i would fall drastically behind in kills. It was something everyone did, and collosus being a big hallway w/limitied ranged weps, PP/BR combo was god. Also in Beaver creek it was WAY to easy to get and just rampage everyone, which i did one time.

The anti-Phantom update was sweet.

i still get stand-by'd every once in awhile, but it seems that i don't get lagged as much when it happens, so i guess the timer is shortened. but also when the blue screen finnaly goes away, there is usually someone gone, so i'm glad the system workes now. Although one game ther was some significant crap going on. Major lag maybe... but stand-by in the old days resembled it much, so i quit the game, it's my first since the AU, so i hope it didn't ban me.... By the way, is it only Team stuff that you get banned for quitting, Rumble seems like not a big deal to quit.... Since that game was kinda sucky.

Good head to head no radar update.

YAY - Not as much banshee whores!!!

reset stats was a good idea

awesom maps...

all in all a good update! thanx

update 1: just to let El3ktrix08 know... its now all human weps on collosus / Beaver creek. and that was were the combo was used most. So you should be good now

[Edited on 4/29/2005]

  • 04.29.2005 7:53 PM PDT
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Hey Frankie,

Nice one one the Maps and update, Much more like it (I almost feel bad for moaning about the cost (which was reasonable (damn))) the update has genuinely changed the state of play for the best, so many last ditch kills just like the Halo 1 days... bliss

This one's a little OT but I thought that with everything pretty much cleared up with regards to the first batch of new (super explorable) maps and the update it would be ok to fire something site related at you with regards to the game viewer.

When viewing my kills in the game viewer would it be possible to have the assist weapon(s) icons as well as the kill weapon icon appear under my logo, medal earned for the kill (or if there's a jacking then the medal earned for the jacking) and also a number that represents the order in which I killed my enemies.

This could work for both killer and victim and provide more useful info on something like dual weilding and different techniqes used by your opponents in different situations.

I'm not sure if you can implement it or not but I would quite like to know if it's possible just out of curiosity either way.

Mister Chief made from Play Doh photo please.

John Squid

half man, half, half man, half beast.

Side note: I know that there will be limitations as to the size and number of icons that can be comfortably displayed before the game viewer becomes cluttered so maybe it would be possible to design a set of high contrast sleeker icons that could be strung together in columns tetris style like this

* Medal

* Kill Number (Number changes colour depending on whether or not you were assisted by another player)
* Kill Weapon (Weapon used to make the kill)

* Secondary Weapon (Weapon used to cause most damage to the enemy prior to the kill)
* Tertiary Weapons (An extension of the above field that covers any other weapons used and their effective order that can be tagged on the end of the icon column if applicable to the kill to save space)

Wow that was long.


[Edited on 4/30/2005]

  • 04.29.2005 7:56 PM PDT
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The info didn't come up for me just a random pic

  • 04.29.2005 7:58 PM PDT
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First of all great job bungie for listening to the feedback of the MAJORITY of players, rather than just a few people who think they have skill.
Second no matter what you say the pp/br combo is cheap and takes almost zero skill to use(anyone can hit someone in the head with a battle rifle when they have no shields). Dont get me wrong i like using the combo but that is because i know there is very little someone can do about it.
GREAT JOB BUNGIE! DONT LISTEN TO ALL THE WHINNY WANNABE HALO 2 PLAYERS, ALL THE UPDATES ARE GREAT!

  • 04.29.2005 7:58 PM PDT
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Hey guys, is it me or did Frankie sound a bit ticked off this week? I notice many offensive curse words in the weekly update and I really didn't like reading it....it was like reading street poetry, which by the way is crap!

  • 04.29.2005 8:00 PM PDT
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number 15. im specaial its just that 1-14 are a little more special. o well 15th aint bad at 11:00 at night hah

  • 04.29.2005 8:02 PM PDT
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15th aiight baby im special just not as special as 1-15 but o well its not bad for submitting it at 11:00 o clock at night

  • 04.29.2005 8:03 PM PDT
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Is bungie going to fix gliching out of containment before it hits matchmaking?

  • 04.29.2005 8:04 PM PDT
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i agree with bass player 817, MLG should be put into the new playlists, and the other playlists that you guys are gonna bring out to just forget about and bring the old playlist back (except phantoms and dont bring rockets). and of course bring in the new maps into the mix. If you were to put the spectre into containment for matchmaking for like CTF or Assualt, i will tell u ahead of time that people are going to get on top of the map and just camp up there. Maybe what u say is true about the new no sudden death, and added another minute to every match. but i will say there will be a lot of people complaining about that in the future, think about it.

  • 04.29.2005 8:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: bass player 817
Posted by: S4rg3
I am so pissed off about the new playlists comming out. Team Rifles? WTF?! that is so stupid, and for team slayer human weapons because little newbs got pissed cause they were getting owned by the br/pp combo! The new maps could me much better the updates suck balls, grenades are -blam!- now, ctf with covenant vehicles is retarded everyone will just whore the ghost, it is just soooooooo stupid. No radar for head to head is also -blam!- retarded.... just because a couple of newbs don't like doesn't mean you should take it off. Also king of the hill and oddball for head to head is dumb as hell. Bungie this is one if the most stupid things you have done with your games, especially this one. You should reset everything the way it was. It was obviously more fun that way. You should add MLG Gametypes to the playlists and get rid of what ever the hell you guys are going to add. I bet you any skilled player will agree with me on what i just typed. Most of the people that complain shouldn't even be playing this game in the first place. Most of them are 12 years old and they don't know any better cause their little minds are still growing...... SO PLEASE BUNGIE ALL I AM ASKING IS THAT YOU JUST RETURN EVERYTHING THE WAY IT WAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT WAS A BAD MOVE FOR YOU GUYS TO DO THIS.

stop complaining cause all u can use 2 kill us is the pp/br combo


first i like how this guys is such a dumbass to see that the game did not need some improovements. Bungie did a good job making online fun, but it NEEDED improvements; First, i used BR/PP combo like everyone else, but it was the ONLY thing to use. it was BORING. if thats the only wep you use then find a new combo. 'cuz you'r being a noob.

also, rifles will be the best game they will ever put out. Rifles head to head was awesom the last time i played it. It was EVEN, it was not a one way "i have the sword/rocket/sniper/shotgun so i win" bulcrap. It was the most ballenced game i have ever played. When everyone (especially only two ppl) have the same weapon, it is impossible to be cheaper than the next person. Team rifles will ROCK. Just becasue you win by finding the sword first doesnt make you good. it makes you lucky, and a noob.

so think before you flame....... these forums is where they get IDEAS. not conclusions. they test those IDEAS with a team of ppl who are ballenced, and are looking for a good time in HALO 2. This team of ppl are also not the ONLY ones who dictate what goes in. Bungie finds many things themselfes, they play w/ppl too and experience the game in depth. they think hard before they release anything because they want it to be for the best, and it IS. you are just complaining becase your cheap weps are going out of power..... one combo games are boring..... ballenced weps are the way to go. Sword won't help you here.

  • 04.29.2005 8:11 PM PDT
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i definatly think that bungie should consider not putting the specter into match making because #1 the handling sucks and #2 people have been using it to get to the top of some of the recently released maps!(and others like coagulation)

also its gun sucks i much rather own with a gaus or the original macinegun warthog


so if you read this and you agree please help me do something about it and make it know to bungie so that it can be stoped

  • 04.29.2005 8:23 PM PDT
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Hell, there is no "minority" against the changes. Everyone with an xbox wants them. It's only -blam!-s with PS2's that are trying (pathetically, I might add) to diss Halo 2.

  • 04.29.2005 8:25 PM PDT

Thanks to videogamespaz for posting the update... I got a "file not found" message too.

I find it annoying that they're removing the PP from gametypes simply because the noobs whined about it. It took practice to get good with that combo, now they're removing it? I mean, really. It's bad enough that the grenades are so over-blown now, and require virtually no skill anymore.

It just seems like they're trying to take away the skill and practice factor from the game. The reason we love this game so much is because you can't just plug it in and start killing people. You have to get good at it; there's a learning curve. Well... used to be, anyway. Now you can start hucking random grenades and get kills... and the rockets and sword, which take minimal skill to use, will absolutely dominate with no combos to stop them.

How about we just switch to needlers only? After all we don't want people dying too much! -- since that takes the fun out of the game, apparently.

Halo 3 = Halo 1 and 2 Watered Down for the Lowest Common Denominator.

All the -blam!-ing done, thanks for the BR start on the larger maps. THAT'S an improvement, at least.

  • 04.29.2005 8:29 PM PDT

I am a beast

look the combo is not as bad as it seems. If you have any skill you know what to do. I don't care what anyone says, it is part of the game.
I am disappointed in hearing that they are trying to remove this part from the game. I think that there are more newbs than skilled people out there and they are the ones who complain. After they just put human weapons on maps, people will be complaining about all the dual pistols that are ringing their heads. Don't you see? After they do this people will complain about something else. You can dodge the green blast, I don't care what anyone says.

PLus there will still be a sniper on Colossus, it will still be the same.
And it's not about who grabs the sniper it's about what team protects their sniper. Newbs get their sniper taken from them, then they complain about getting owned.

The only reason why the AU came out was for noobs who needed to use last ditch grenades and over sized melee attacks. Thanks bungie for last minute grenades, How come bungie doesn't listen to the skilled??

MLG rules are the only way to go, plain and simple, just start things off with the BR, and get it over with. Just imagine all the complaints that people are going to post when one team controls the BR's on warlock??
Oh didn't think about that one??

Quit tweaking the game, if you get owned just learn from your loss, thats the difference between good people and garbage players, the weak ones whine while the leet start another game.

Reseting the stats is the way to go Bungie thank you for giving people the shot at some of the team leaderboards

  • 04.29.2005 8:31 PM PDT
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I went to click on the update and it said there was an error i want to see it

  • 04.29.2005 8:31 PM PDT
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I am excited. Expecially with the weapon changes. But the thing with Colossuss is that it's a "get the sniper first!" game. It is kind of annoying, but I can live with it. And good job with added in the other vehicles. Will you also be adding in other turrets? Will there ever be any content other than maps? Thanks alot, Sketch!

  • 04.29.2005 8:31 PM PDT