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um pepole can get on cuntament w/out any cars and that will be ayoing if u play like big team and odball and you get uptop w/ the ball your going to win evry game and reaspond to me if you think the same

  • 04.29.2005 8:33 PM PDT
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I am excited. Will there be the Plasma Cannon as another turret? Can we be expecting any other content other than maps? I would really like to see a human aircraft, and a human Ghost-like vehicle. I also like the other turrets in campaign. Like smaller ones. Those would be nice to see in multiplayer. A lot more variety would make the game a whole lot better. Thanks alot, Frankie!

  • 04.29.2005 8:34 PM PDT
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what????? Your taking out PPBR but but but that makes the game easy and no fun and your improving the game even further with other updates, those bastards at bungie........

  • 04.29.2005 9:05 PM PDT
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How will the level changes be affected now that cheating is gone? Would alot of people fairly become 30s and 20s by winning games rather than taking forever to get to a 16?

  • 04.29.2005 9:10 PM PDT
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Because I think that not being able to get through all the levels except from cheating is just a waste of levels. Peole that were 40s and 50s definetly cheated becuase the best halo 2 player (supposably) is a 20 something!!!

  • 04.29.2005 9:12 PM PDT
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Someone at bungie or anyone who comes across this send me information on this please because I am dying to know this crap People on live send me a friend request! Gamertag: chile1172 &
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  • 04.29.2005 9:16 PM PDT
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i wish people cud spel write on theez forums, it's reely annoying....espciallly when someone rights...."anyone who ONCE to play 2v2.......come onnnnnnnnnn......and my friend and i would love to play you 2v2....akadirkadirka

  • 04.29.2005 9:20 PM PDT
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Great, the combo whiners get their way. I'm sorry, but it always seemed to me that though they were very vocal, they were also a minority. Most of the polls I've seen on the subject have come out in the favor of the combo. God forbid we should have two weapons that, when working together, are as destructive as single weapons like the sniper rifle, sword and rocket launcher. Hey, I don't like getting sniped, can we take that out of Slayer next? For Christ's sake. (Note: I don't actually want the sniper taken out, that's just sarcasm.)

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  • 04.29.2005 9:23 PM PDT
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1st of all, thanx for the new kick ars maps!!!
2nd of all thanx for banning phantoms that was just getting really annoying to get owned by people who can afford hi definition tvs that will show where you are.
3rd of all thanx for the banning of cheaters and suiciders. I just got done playing a game in which I pwned the other team (20kills 7 deaths) but two of my idiot teammates had -6 scores each. so we lost. *whimper* *sniff* I'm okay.......

  • 04.29.2005 9:24 PM PDT
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Bungie, Have i told you lately that i love u? Have i told you theres no one else above u? U fill my hear with gladness, take away all my sadness, ease my troubles. Thats what u do!

  • 04.29.2005 9:32 PM PDT
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I can't even acces the update

  • 04.29.2005 9:53 PM PDT
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rifles are indeed the weopons that take most skill because theye require accuracy

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  • 04.29.2005 10:08 PM PDT
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BUNGIE HAS RUINED THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF EVEN MAKING A PLASMA PISTOL! IT WAS ONLY GOOD ON B.C. AND COLLASSUS! IT SUCKS YOUR TAKING IT OUT JUST BECAUSE YOU SUCK WITH IT AND YOU CANT FIGHT BACK WITH IT! I HAVE GOTTEN NUMOUROUS KILLS WITH IT AGAIST PPL USIN THE SAME COMBO!

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  • 04.29.2005 10:38 PM PDT
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This sucks. It won't let me access the uptade all it lets me do is "discuss this story."

  • 04.29.2005 11:28 PM PDT
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Very nice Bungie, i was hoping for the changes to be out this Monday (it's a bank holiday here and i could have played all day :P) but at least they're out soon. I have one small question though. You said that during CTF games on Ascention you will be taking out the Banshee, well as far as i can remember i've never played a CTF game on Ascention so i'm guessing that you're adding this game type in. Other than than it was a very good and informative post, and thank you again Bungie.

/Numinator - Miles - Numair

  • 04.29.2005 11:47 PM PDT

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  • 04.29.2005 11:55 PM PDT
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For people who can't see the update and I have to say the combo was pretty cheap just find new ways of killing.

Bungie Weekly What's Update



Short, but remamrkably sweet, since we detail the new matchmaking playlists, reveal some of the new gametype tweaks and look at the schedule for stat resets and more.









Hella dudes ask,

How's the playlist update coming? When can we expect it to go live?



The playlist update is still undergoing a test pass but things are progressing nicely. We're still hoping to have it ready for your enjoyment in just a few more days - most likely middle to late next week. In the meantime, remember that you and your friends can play the new maps as much as you like via custom games. Check out our forums if you're looking for more map owners to play with!





Lots of folks wonder,


What's included in the Playlist updates?



This is just a taste. A lot of things the vast majority of players won't notice, but here's one or two of the more visible and necessary changes. Note that NONE of these has been done casually. All of this has undergone testing and tweaking. Thanks to Jeremiah and Sketch for the new info.

Sudden Death has been removed from all Assault variants to prevent griefing. If you think that griefing was a legitimate tactic, you are simply going to have to learn other basic skills. You all knew that doing it was bogus, aggravated the other teams and was fundamentally imbalanced. Did we have any responsibility there? Sure. And we've fixed it. Thing is, we accept all our responsibilities, while griefers continue to defer theirs. Stop cheating, stop griefing, and don't cry about how it's our fault for making it possible. We had issues with our designs that did make it possible, but nobody forced you to exploit them. Especially when other teams DON'T do it. Griefers who complain about OUR responsibility to stop them from cheating should dial 911 and ask for a Waaahmbulance.

Round time for Assault variants has been increased globally to give teams a better chance to score since sudden death is gone. That should mean more epic struggles, and some maps, like Headlong, will become very, very interesting…

…especially since we've removed Banshee from CTF and Assault games on Ascension and Headlong. Why? Because griefers will surf the bomb to unreachable places anyway, just to be jackasses.

No more Plasma Pistol / Battle Rifle ownage in Slayer games on Beaver Creek or Colossus - we now use Human weapon sets for Slayer variants on those two maps. This will be controversial and we understand there is some small skill required to use the combo, but frankly it has become tiresome on those maps. It takes far more skill to win without that combo. More skill = more fun, right?

Motion Detector (radar) has been removed in all head to head playlist variants. This one I'm personally ambivalent about. Partly because of my inability to look at radar while fighting/getting owned. Partly because it sometimes adds a layer of strategy (creeping on objective based games, being a good example) but we hear the thronging masses. Loads of noise demanding its removal and almost total silence on the opposite opinion.

The majority of game variants on Coagulation and Burial mounds will now start players with Battle Rifle and an SMG - exceptions include games such as Team Snipers, Team Rifles or other variants which feature specific weapon sets. THIS one we expect universal approval on. Now that I can actually shoot the Battle Rifle with some modicum of skill, I will be putting it to good use. We've done more palatable Battle Rifle starts on the newer maps too, but since they're not in matchmaking yet, you'll have to take our word for it.

We've added King and Oddball variants to Head to Head to encourage more conflict, less hiding and more variety.

No more Phantoms. You'll have to custom game that one. Phantoms was a rarity anyway. Now it's just super-ultimate-rare. That is to say., gone.

We've added new CTF and Assault variants which feature Covenant vehicles just for variety. The Spectre is making an appearance and should make for some interesting encounters. Shouldn't really change balance too much though.





When is the leaderboard reset going to happen?

When are the Halo 2 Xbox Live leaderboards being reset?



The leaderboard reset is tied to the playlist update, so we anticipate this will happen around the middle to late next week. Players should be prepared for their levels to reset at some point next week. We can't say with 100% certainty due to unknowns with the test process and Xbox Live dependencies. For now, plan on this all going down next week. And for the record, your friends lists will NOT be reset nor impacted in any way whatsoever. The leaderboard reset will only impact the level that appears next to your name in the ranked playlists.

Just to clear up one odd rumor about this – we're resetting EVERYONE'S stats, not just the top 1000. Don't know where that rumor came from. Also, remember that your rank is only designed to match you against players of similar ability. It serves no other purpose. The upcoming contests we plan to run will be based solely on merit – not your rank. We will in fact ignore rank and look at legitimate match results. Rank whoring and cheating show up like a red flag, and will result in immediate banning from matchmaking. So don't do it. You've been warned.





Mr. Robbins asks,

Hi, I own multiple Xboxes. Do I have to purchase the new maps (assuming I want them immediately and not when they become free) for each separate Xbox I have, or is there a way I can dupe them to my other machines?



I'm afraid so. The maps are sold on a per-box basis, much like downloadable music, or in fact, any kind of software. This is done to prevent piracy of course; otherwise every school in America would be passing around one memory card with a Live account on it. Like it or not, the new content requires thousands of man hours, resources and other costs to produce, and even though we love puppies AND babies, we're not a charity. That said, when they are eventually free, in summer, you can go nuts and fill up as many Xboxes as you like.





BlackMagic says,

I was playing a game and it was lagging when ever I got close to the other team .once it went into blue screen and then when I got out there was a guy how came up behind me and killed me from behind when I was sniping.



Jerks can still cause standby to happen, they just can't use it effectively, as they did before the autoupdate – this is a hardware issue, not a software problem. It can happen with any game attached to a modem. However, we are also much, much more efficient at automatically spotting this behavior and we've been banning offenders from matchmaking forever. They are also ejected from games for doing it. Basically it's a total waste of time.




SentinelMujer asks,

What's up with the RSS feed? It seems sort of sporadic. Am I doing something wrong?



Our RSS feed allows Halo 2 players to incorporate Bungie.net Halo 2 stats into their own websites (among other things). However, due to higher-than-expected usage, we've temporarily reduced the number of games the RSS query returns, but are actively pursuing a way to return it to its former glory. Please bear with us and we apologize for the inconvenience.




SUIV asks,

Hey. I'm sure you get enough annoying questions but can you tell me what the record for the most suicides is because my friend and his friends held a game and they got 10680 suicides. Is that a record or a waste of time.



If it's in a custom game, it's an impressive statistic. But also a complete waste of time. Also, play around in custom games by all means, but don't do it in matchmaking, or you could be banned.






Kittenz asks ,


What about the as yet unreleased maps. Any news?



Hopefully by next week we'll have some new details

  • 04.29.2005 11:56 PM PDT
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Can't someone, like, copy and paste the update for us people who can't even access it?

  • 04.30.2005 12:01 AM PDT
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Oh, right, thanks for that.

  • 04.30.2005 12:01 AM PDT
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Ok this really sucks I've been on two computers now and it still comes up with that "gone fishing" crap, ok to narrow it down have any aussies viewed the update? and can someone please email it to me. hicksj@tpg.com.au

  • 04.30.2005 12:03 AM PDT
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Okay you guys are starting to annoy me I posted the update on this page would you take the time to notice

  • 04.30.2005 12:07 AM PDT
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Alright, I know this is off topic but I am making a movie and I am trying to figure out how to do the gun-lowering feature. Please Reply.

  • 04.30.2005 12:17 AM PDT
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ok thanks for that, Can I just say that all though most the changes will be great, that the oddball on head to head will be just be another game that the cheaters/glitches can take full advantage of. Its already predictable that players are going to find ways of the holding the skull in area"s where other players wont be able to reach. I'm sure bungie have considered this however the hacks (cheaters/glitches what ever they call themselves) will find a way around this and rather than a game of cat and mouse its going to be more like how did he get the skull up there...

  • 04.30.2005 12:36 AM PDT
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cant wait for CTF on new maps
Thanks Bungie keep it up.

  • 04.30.2005 12:54 AM PDT