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Subject: Why didn't the flood posses hunters?
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in which case if they were then they would eat them pointing out that "I" am right!

  • 04.24.2004 11:53 AM PDT
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In response to Draerden :

Installation 04, built to contain and study the Flood. Installation 04 built with a Defence Mechanism just in case the Flood would get out of control. What does this Defence Mechanism do? I have the answer to that. It wipes out all of the Floods food so that it will starve them to death. Why didn't the Master Chief activate Halo's Defence Mechanism? None other than because what the Flood eats is any life form wether Covenant or Human. You want proof? Start up a campaign on the level "Two Betrayals", it will start with a cinematic watch it and you will find your answer. End of discussion.

  • 04.24.2004 11:57 AM PDT
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You just said they had to be of a certain intelligence. There you go! hunters aren't the smartest beings! they're retards!

  • 04.24.2004 12:06 PM PDT
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Your use of pronouns is quite destressing. Who are "they" and "they" and who is "them"?

Not to be rude, but it's hard to debate such a vague point. I'm going to have to make the assumption you are referring to "Cortana" and "Guilty Spark" when you say "They" and "They" and you mean "Sentient Life" when you say "Them"?

I also don't see why there has to be a right person or a wrong person. Debates are about discovery, not proving who is the "better man".

The term "feed" according to Cortana and Guilty Spark seems to loosely refer to the act of infection. Cortana referes to sentients as food, but Guilty Spark refers to them as a vector. If in fact the flood infect their prey faster then they burn themselves out it would consume their enemies much in the way of a disease or virus. If in that case you could refer to a Cancer patient as food, then food applies making us both correct.

  • 04.24.2004 12:07 PM PDT

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  • 04.24.2004 12:08 PM PDT
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Posted by: Canadian_MC
The hunters have less armor then elites and they were taken over, and you could see infectious flood on the backs of Hunters. And don't forget, there wasn't grunt or Jackal flood either.


well if u read the book the reason u never saw grunt and jackal flood is because they were to week to put on the field

  • 04.24.2004 12:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: Chile
in First Strike he says, "I guess they didn't like my taste"


Cortana says its because he has a syndrome because 90 some % of his body was covered by plasma

He used a whole crate of P grenades, he wasn't covered by plasma.

The carriers are transformed old Elite/marine flood, the Jackals and Grunts aren't big enough or strong enough for the flood.
And the Hunters are just like worms with arms and legs, imagine a jelly with bones.

[Edited on 4/24/2004 12:20:56 PM]

  • 04.24.2004 12:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: mjolnir 22
The Hunters were one of the most powerful creatures in Halo why didn't the flood posses them?


You have a good point but why didn't they posses jakels or grunts, after all the flood have no reasoning, they just take over anything of a suitable biomass. It's probably just because bungie couldn't be bothered to make combat forms of them, assuming the elite and marine ones would suffice.

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Posted by: mjolnir 22
The Hunters were one of the most powerful creatures in Halo why didn't the flood posses them?


You have a good point but why didn't they posses jakels or grunts, after all the flood have no reasoning, they just take over anything of a suitable biomass. It's probably just because bungie couldn't be bothered to make combat forms of them, assuming the elite and marine ones would suffice.


Two things:

1. The Flood are not mindless zombies they think. Our proof comes from the level: KEYES where we see our good friend captian Keyes hooked up to the control room of the ship. Doing something like getting Keyes body on board that ship would require cummincation. Communication is what seperates us from the trees and plants, we can think, talk and thus make strategys. Trees cannot communicate so all they do is live thats exactically what zombies do they just survive by finding means of food.

2. It's possinble that Hunters Jacklas and our firends the Grunts do not have the suffiecent biomass to contian the flood. Thus why we never see a Flood form of the Grunt or Jackel or Hunter. Biomass doesn't neccisarily depend on how big on is it depends more on whats inside and their cabilites. It's possible that a Hunter's body is of no use to the Flood.

That being said wouldn't a infected Spartan be scary!

  • 04.24.2004 3:43 PM PDT
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The grunts and jackals are carriers, hunters are just not useful for them i dont think

  • 04.24.2004 3:45 PM PDT
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The Hunters get transformed into flood sacks, like the one Keyes was in. Look at it, it has legs like hunters, and is about the right size (considering it was stretched to accomodate hosts). The spikes were turned into those long tentacles that attach to the roof and floor.

It's quite obvious, really.

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i sure as hell know it aint me everybody hates me already... anyway if that did happen it would be to hard i mean think of a hunter around every corner.

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They didnt take over grunts or jackals because why would you want to be in the body of a puny not powerful or scary Thing?

  • 04.24.2004 6:11 PM PDT
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These are all really good thoughts, so I thought I'd add
my 2 cents. I remember reading that the covenant had
a long history with the flood, so maybe the hunters were
engineered just in case of an outbreak. They obviously
suck against human weaponry, so fighting in this
particular war doesn't make sense. However, if you
remember that part in the level keyes when the
Hunters fight off the flood, they kick some serious
bootay.

  • 04.24.2004 6:13 PM PDT
Subject: Why didn't the flood posses hunters?
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in the book it says that EM waves from throwing a whole crate of plasma grenades gave Sargent Johnson Boren's Syndrome.

  • 04.24.2004 7:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: eMCee
These are all really good thoughts, so I thought I'd add
my 2 cents. I remember reading that the covenant had
a long history with the flood, so maybe the hunters were
engineered just in case of an outbreak. They obviously
suck against human weaponry, so fighting in this
particular war doesn't make sense. However, if you
remember that part in the level keyes when the
Hunters fight off the flood, they kick some serious
bootay.


Good point. Though it seems that they kinda suck against the infection forms because of there speed. With all the Hunters armor they have a hard time getting those lil' buggers off ... O well would make some sense though!

  • 04.24.2004 7:32 PM PDT
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My guess is they they have teh same condition as sarge..i mean having a fuel rod gun attached to you arm might do that...

  • 04.24.2004 7:37 PM PDT
Subject: Why didn't the flood posses hunters?

At the end of the game in the end movie those big Flood that are walking up to the Pillar of Autumn are probably Hunter Flood or a bunch of Elite Flood put together

  • 04.24.2004 7:37 PM PDT
Subject: Covie history with flood.

speaking to eMCee where did you get that the Covenant have a long history with the Flood? I thought they had just found them on Halo.

  • 04.24.2004 7:40 PM PDT
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Im not sure where i read that, but im positive its true.
The most likely source to find the info is the Halo Story
Page over @ Halo.bungie.org.

[Edited on 4/24/2004 7:51:03 PM]

  • 04.24.2004 7:50 PM PDT

Thanks for the info eMCee

  • 04.24.2004 8:08 PM PDT
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I think the flood move by pulling on the body's tendons. Hunters would be too heavy to move.

  • 04.24.2004 8:18 PM PDT
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When cortana or guilty spark say "fead" they are not refering to eating it semply means to posses or take over. As for the discussion on hunters they are pure brute froce with instinct miked in. They are the most uniteligent beings of the covenant. In the first strike when john met up with Dr. Hensley The hunters shot at the holy light (crystal) after their eliet superiors gave them orders not to. They did this because they are so stupid that they would give up their life to kill one person. They are also too stupid to know that the crystal can make 36 hr slipspace trips last 1 min. Makeing so covenient for the covenant war ships to replace the fallen ships. Personaly I think that the reson the flood don't posses hunters is becuse the species is a usless pile of junk. Or because bungie didn't disin a covenant form for the hunter.

  • 04.24.2004 8:24 PM PDT
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if you watch the movie right befor you battle the flood for the first ime ther are elites everywhere wich are not ther anymore so i'd say there was 2 possibilities...
1 the flood aren't strong enough to carry the massive things or drag them to the creation chambers
or 2 the Hunters just can't be transformed.

  • 04.24.2004 8:31 PM PDT
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I don't know why not, but if they did it would look like this:

http://halosn.bungie.org/misc/stuntmutt.html?month=02&yea r=2004&type=main&image=114

  • 04.24.2004 8:55 PM PDT

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