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I read The Fall Of Reach for the umpteenth time recently and realized that the Pillar of Autumn had two AI's. When the Chief mentions boarding a disabled covanent ship because there was bound to be one at the battle of reach, Captain Keyes says that it would leave him without Cortana, and it would take like 14 hours to get the other one up and running. He then says he has flown without an AI before, and agrees. The second AI is also mentioned before the POA leaves the space dock, keyes mentions "It's hard enough to get one AI, this ship has two?" The moral of the story is, I do not recall anyone purging the second AI, and the covanent controlled the POA on Halo. What do you guys think? Is it possible? Sorry if this has already been mentioned.

  • 07.14.2004 10:39 AM PDT
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well, it made sense to me

  • 07.14.2004 10:48 AM PDT
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It's possible, although I haven't read the books yet so I don't know about a second AI. Btw, where can I get those books?

  • 07.14.2004 10:49 AM PDT

Me: "OMFG, Dude... wtf!"
AbolitionofMan: "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to betray you."
Me: "That's the 4th time in this game alone!"
Chris: "Third, besides he had the flag I was trying to stop him, how was I supposed to know you were there."
Me: "I said, 'I got the Flag, don't shoot.'"
Chris: "Well those Wraith shots take a while to reach you."
Me: "You were right next to me, I had killed him and a minute passed before you decided to shoot."
Chris: "Hahahahaha, yeah... that was great."

Hmmm, nice point. Never heard of this brought up before. Perhaps this may explain where the Sentient AI on the Unyeilding Heliophant came from... the Covenant may have got a hold of the coding of the AI and so we have the mysterious AI. Also, the reason the PoA had two AI's was because it had its original AI since Cortana was only added because of the MC's coming mission. She was the type of AI needed to help make his mission a success.

Achilles

  • 07.14.2004 10:50 AM PDT

Me: "OMFG, Dude... wtf!"
AbolitionofMan: "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to betray you."
Me: "That's the 4th time in this game alone!"
Chris: "Third, besides he had the flag I was trying to stop him, how was I supposed to know you were there."
Me: "I said, 'I got the Flag, don't shoot.'"
Chris: "Well those Wraith shots take a while to reach you."
Me: "You were right next to me, I had killed him and a minute passed before you decided to shoot."
Chris: "Hahahahaha, yeah... that was great."

Posted by: sgt ubergrunt
It's possible, although I haven't read the books yet so I don't know about a second AI. Btw, where can I get those books?


Any Bookstore, Amazon.com or B.net Store.

Achilles

  • 07.14.2004 10:51 AM PDT
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ok.

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I bought them from Amazon.com. Their 6.75 each, Fall of Reach and First Strike were well worth it, The Flood was somewhat repetetive.

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Keyes initiated the Cole Protocol before the battle, all of the Earth ships did so. All records of Earth's location were eliminated from their data arrays in case the Covenant wirelessly managed to connect to the Human computer systems.

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What I am speculating is that because the AI was not online, it could have been overlooked. They said it would take hours to ready the AI, in the hectic situation I think it could have been neglected.

  • 07.14.2004 10:54 AM PDT
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It was the Flagship that had the A.I., Cortana recognized, in it and it would make sence execpt the Flagship got to the remnets of Halo04 after it exploded so how did it get to the ship in the first place, and how did they hack and 'brianwash' Beowolf(PoAs A.I.) in just a few short hours without knowing anything (presumbably) about Human A.I.s?

  • 07.14.2004 10:58 AM PDT
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It's those crazy engineer guy's. They figured out how to repair the chiefs armor in about 5 minutes, and that was cutting edge technology, improved from covanent shields.

  • 07.14.2004 11:04 AM PDT
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I dont think(maby wrong) that the Engineers know alot about A.I.s, but it would make a little sence.

I just think that the UNSC would be smart enough to put truckloads of encryption software as a backup. but maby the Eng.'s are super hackers too, just donno.

  • 07.14.2004 11:08 AM PDT
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*Spoilers*



Have you read Halo The Flood? The second A.I aboard the POA is called welsey and he gets destroyed when the Truth & Reconciliation he and the remaining marines are in crashes.

  • 07.14.2004 11:11 AM PDT
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I have no recollection of that, it's been a while since I read that one. Which chapter was that in so I don't make a fool of myself anymore.

  • 07.14.2004 11:15 AM PDT
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Oh, forgot about that...

Then who has Beowolf because I destinctly remember that name.

  • 07.14.2004 11:15 AM PDT
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Posted by: sgt ubergrunt
It's possible, although I haven't read the books yet so I don't know about a second AI. Btw, where can I get those books?

i found first strike at a dollar store for 99 cents

  • 07.14.2004 11:15 AM PDT
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I think that's the ONI construct. I know it was present when the Chief first heard about the covanent. I think it's Ackerson's. The covanent AI was a lot like that one on the flagship.

  • 07.14.2004 11:17 AM PDT
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Thats what I was thinking just now...

  • 07.14.2004 11:18 AM PDT
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I don't think the Covanent got the second AI. If anything I say the Moniter got it or found the data for Earth in the POA computers. He was searching and retreving data, I'm sure he found Earth and as a way to get revenge for taking the index he gave the location to the Covanent.

  • 07.14.2004 11:24 AM PDT
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Good point. I keep wondering how 343 is going to play into Halo 2. This thought has been making my brain itch for quite some time.

  • 07.14.2004 11:26 AM PDT
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actually I do recall that after the battle of reach a covenent micro ship/chip attached to a human ship. Oviously that ship went back to earth and the micro chip told the covenent of its cordinants.

  • 07.14.2004 11:40 AM PDT
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yeh Wesley is the 2nd AI along with teh PoA but I dont really think thats how they foudn out about Earth. I think they found out about Earth either by sieging the PoA and pulling up any records of Earth's location, or perhaps I was thinking maybe the Covenant just had an idea about where Earth was and when Cortana inserted herself into teh Unyeliding Heirphant or maybe teh Covenant Flagship...perhaps she left behind small traces of data indicating where Earth was located.

  • 07.14.2004 2:49 PM PDT
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welsey was taken on the drop to halo as a tactical source by the odsts and he remained intact until the destruction of the tru7h and reconciliation

  • 07.14.2004 3:24 PM PDT