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That is a sick sniper.


  • 05.05.2005 8:36 AM PDT
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Too -- much -- Team -- Slayer

And how, exactly, was resetting the levels supposed to LEVEL the playing field? That's illogical. It has once again UNEVENED the playing field by matching better players against weaker ones. Not to mention made it unfun. Unfun + frustrating = bad for something I pay money for...

  • 05.05.2005 9:02 AM PDT
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yesterday i played the the new 2 vs 2 matches and i must say....capture the flag on warlock blows.....thats more a place for slayer and possibly assault. on Beaver Creek taking out the covenant weapons did seem like a good idea but it makes ctf there dumb because all it is now is a race to the overshield and the rocket launcher. I doubt everyone feels this way but i think re-inserting the covenant weapons in the 2 vs 2 matches makes things more interesting and better cause it wouldnt be a lop sided match. other then that...the new levels for the 4 on 4 team preview....kick ass. I really enjoy the slayer matches on sanctuary and Turf is tight to play on.

  • 05.05.2005 9:05 AM PDT
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i was reading some of the post from last night and today and ppl just complain and complain if u think what they did is stupid dont play go play one of your -blam!- non awsome games, no radar on h2h is so much better ppl think its easyer to hide yes a lil but its usaly easyer to kill them cuz they were camping cuz they cant just sit there and watch there radar... u can actualy surpise them have br's or other maps are so much better if u cant snipe when some1 has a br then dont snipe go with the br, i can snipe fine when some1 has the br, and people said they increased the damage on br, are u just stupid! it still takes 4 head shots with it, and ur talken bout taken a clip to kill some1 maybe u shouldnt go for body/croch shots, bungie made the game so much better the only thing i disigree with is the humen set on the 2 maps, they shoulda just changed the PP or took it out those maps, people are so excited cuz they said they took it out on 2 maps, now your going to complain about it on skirmish, if u dont like what they did then quit thats all i gotta say thank you and good night

  • 05.05.2005 9:14 AM PDT
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Today after school i played Turf on Xbox live and its soooooooooooooooooooooooo
Cool and CTF is good on many of the new maps. Hiding and then sniping is a much more improved one of my Many Halo 2 Talents althought going from a level 31 back to a zero but now im at level 3 AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!! Phew!!!

  • 05.05.2005 9:24 AM PDT
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Look I think that the new games are cool and all but I'm not to thrilled with the ranks being reset. I mean I was a 12 before they got reset and I worked my ass off to get there. I don't know how they did it but I certainly didn't do the rank boost trick. Anyway that's just my opinion...anybody with me?


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  • 05.05.2005 9:24 AM PDT
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not tryen to be a dick but its true

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Posted by: red30
And how, exactly, was resetting the levels supposed to LEVEL the playing field? That's illogical. It has once again UNEVENED the playing field by matching better players against weaker ones. Not to mention made it unfun. Unfun + frustrating = bad for something I pay money for...

Give it some time! After a week or so (maybe sooner), the players that are better than you will have moved on to higher levels. The point of the update, from my understanding, was to change the way you earn experience. I think Bungie was finding there were too many players grouped together in the middle levels, with not enough differentiation considering the players' respective ability to play the game. So, you gain XP quicker now, with the intention that you wont find as many 'bottlenecks' of players, in effect spreading everyone out more. So, from now on, when you're playing against another level 10 player, he will be much closer to your skill level than in the previous ranking system.

  • 05.05.2005 9:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: red30
And how, exactly, was resetting the levels supposed to LEVEL the playing field? That's illogical. It has once again UNEVENED the playing field by matching better players against weaker ones. Not to mention made it unfun. Unfun + frustrating = bad for something I pay money for...

Give it some time! After a week or so (maybe sooner), the players that are better than you will have moved on to higher levels. The point of the update, from my understanding, was to change the way you earn experience. I think Bungie was finding there were too many players grouped together in the middle levels, with not enough differentiation in their levels, considering their respective ability to play the game. So, you gain XP quicker now, with the intention that you wont find as many 'bottlenecks' of players, in effect spreading everyone out more. So, from now on, when you're playing against another level 10 player, he will be much closer to your skill level than in the previous ranking system.

  • 05.05.2005 9:37 AM PDT
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What's going on bungie? I thought the levels were supposed to have been reseted only once. Yesterday as I was trying to level up on rumble pit, I managed to get to lebel 3 with only 3 games, then I came back online and I had a level 1 again. Why??? I know a level 3 isn't much but i was just wondering why this happened.

  • 05.05.2005 9:49 AM PDT
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i dont like the idea of no radar though, it used to take more skill of sneaking up to people, now nothing but everything else is great

  • 05.05.2005 9:53 AM PDT
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ughhhh I dont approve of this new update...

1. Stats reset, now that everyone is back to like 1 and stuff, you could be matched up against a lvl 25 and not know it =*(
2. I dislike the new battle rifle gametype as well, you spawn, you get shot at, you don't have enough time to hide and you die =*(

  • 05.05.2005 10:04 AM PDT
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I like all of the updates except for a few bad choices for the BR start. Beaver Creek and Warlock. The BR is key on those bigger maps where you have to run for 20 min to get half way accross the map. Beaver Creek is bad because you get people that as soon as they start the match go jump on top of the buildings and shoot and hide and repeat. By the time you even get close to a way to get up there you are dead. Make them earn their BR on that map not 50 easy kills, and the theory to hide in a building and make them come after you doesn't work cuz once you have a lead why look for trouble. Warlock is bad too due to those unfortunate to spawn below continuosly while the other team stands on the outer platforms and continuosly drill you as you try to seek cover and get some nades to get them out of their roosts.

Otherwise good job guys on the new stuff.

  • 05.05.2005 11:00 AM PDT
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What the ********** is it??? Battlerifle mode is the worst mode ive ever played!!!! Erase this -blam!-!, please!!! Everytime we wanna play Slayer, this -blam!- mode comes!!! Make more swords, rocket, shotgun modes!!!! This battlerifle makes no fun. It is no halo2 anymore!! 7 of 10 games are Battlerifle games, why`??? This is really -blam!-. I dont wanna play halo2 longer, until this *************** mode will disappear. Battlerifle is a noob weapon, why you make an own mode of this??? Greetz

  • 05.05.2005 11:09 AM PDT
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It's about time I did my own rant....

Okay, here are a few things I LIKE:

1. Two brand new playlists
2. Stat reset- I get to play against really good people now. The better the people I play, the better I become. This will inevitably increase my skill in this game, and help me achieve a far higher rank than before. And that's not just because of the new ranking process. It's because this will make me a better player. Too many people -blam!- about a loss, instead relying upon that experience for strategy and skill learning. Best training in the world was what I got last night. The guy that beat me said he used to be a level 35 in Rumble Pit, and I was two kills behind him in a Midship Rumble! Definitely a skill-building experience, guys....
3. Riddance of Plasma Pistols on SOME gametypes, and not ALL gametypes. It's funny to hear the same people complain that the PP/BR combo is killing them on one gametype, but how they want it so damn much in another gametype. Why the hell do you think it's still there? Bungie has REDUCED the use of the Noob combo substantially, but they're not going to rid of it completely like that....and I for one applaud the move. The scenarios when it's use is understandable, I can use it. The scenarios when it's just stupid to have, it's gone. Wow, I should really -blam!- about THAT.....
4. Variety in vehicles!!! Great! I know you can surf with the Spectre, and leave the level. Go ahead and do that. I'm going to go grab the flag and take it to my base, so you go have fun....and then when the match is over I'll leave cheater feedback. I don't know how you could go wrong with this.....I mean, of all the things Bungie would be able to visually perceive as cheating once they see feedback, the little black line coming from off the map killing someone is a pretty good indicator....
5. No sudden death on assault, and extra time instead! So now the single-file lines at the front of the base isn't the greatest idea anymore? Suicide missions not the greatest plan in the world? You actually have to ORGANIZE your attack as a TEAM in TEAM games instead of trying to be the one-man hero? God, why are they making SENSE?

My gripes:
1. Battle rifles. Yeah, before you go into "you don't like them because you can't use them!" You're wrong. I'm not the most egotistical player out there, and actually have some trouble boasting about my ability in the game, but I'm DAMN good with a battle rifle. If anyone's benefitted from battle rifles being in nearly every gametype, it's me. Coagulation needed something other than SMG's at start. That's a given. Unfortunately, I don't agree with battle rifles. The option of running with the flag is GONE. I'm sorry, but it's just not there anymore. You run with the flag, and you're dead as soon as you leave the base. Want to run with the warthog? Okay, sure, let's get in, drive away and...Damn, our driver died before we even got to midway.....because 8 people were firing at him with a battle rifle......

Coagulation needed more scoring opportunities, not LESS. I loved Blood Gulch, and I love Coagulation, but scoring was nearly impossible in 12 minutes. Now it IS impossible.

2. no radar on H2H. There is no just reason for making it easier to hide. Bungie didn't do their homework on this one correctly. A powerful weapon is only powerful when you don't know where the guy is who has it, and he has the lead, and is hiding around the map. I presented two ideas that were praised by others, and I never heard a reason why they were no good:
a. Every kill signals the end of a round, respawn both people again. This keeps people from being able to whore weapons.
b. make it a juggernaught game, but put a nav marker on the juggie's ass, and don't give him ANY special abilities at all, OR give him a slight ability, like being able to move faster, or something like that to make up for having a GPS on his ass.
The new changes were not significant for me to play H2H still. You might as well have gotten rid of it, as far as I'm concerned.

3. You went overboard with a few things, and failed to give us reason for why you did them. Now, you are NOT entitled to give us a reason for everything. You developed the game, you made the changes, you get to decide. However, I held some deep respect for you in the past because you always made concise, reasonable explanations for the changes you've been making, and for the most part, they've made sense. This latest update seems to be filled with irrational thought, or no thought at all. A good example is the bomb surfing comment. What good is bomb surfing going to do a griefer anymore without sudden death? They're just kicking themselves in the groin that way. I'll gladly stand and watch them do that a few times until they figure out why it doesn't work anymore. Why take away a feature that can't be exploited anymore anyways? And why go overboard with other things? Like two wraiths in a 4 vs 4 CTF game on Burial mounds??? There used to be some balance to the game on Burial Mounds. One guy from each team goes for rockets, one guy from each team goes for sniper, two guys on offense get in warthog, one guy on defense gets in ghost, and the last defensive guy defends the flag. Perfect gameplans on both sides. Now ruined by tanks that throw the balance completely off. Unless you vacate the base completely on defense, you're screwed. Why does this sound like shooting yourself in the foot? Because having to leave the base to play defense IS shooting yourself in the foot, and we all know why.

4. No more banshee?? Why? You removed all reason to grief with it, so why remove it to protect from griefing? That's got to be the most retarded thing I've ever seen in these weekly updates from you guys. "We've removed the problem, but we're going to take this away too, because when the problem existed, this was exploited...." Explain to me what a griefer would gain by surfing the bomb when there is no sudden death. Anyone?

All in all, it was a much needed update, but it seems to me that you were trying too hard to keep in line with the "Let's release one update every week, keep on schedule" attitude that has been most evident as of late, instead of using some quality control. In your testing process, it would have been nice if part of your testing wasn't just finding out if it worked on your servers. Maybe play with the updated gametypes for a while?

  • 05.05.2005 11:23 AM PDT
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Posted by: M1STER NICE
What the ********** is it??? Battlerifle mode is the worst mode ive ever played!!!! Erase this -blam!-!, please!!! Everytime we wanna play Slayer, this -blam!- mode comes!!! Make more swords, rocket, shotgun modes!!!! This battlerifle makes no fun. It is no halo2 anymore!! 7 of 10 games are Battlerifle games, why`??? This is really -blam!-. I dont wanna play halo2 longer, until this *************** mode will disappear. Battlerifle is a noob weapon, why you make an own mode of this??? Greetz

lmao! the BR is a noob weapon maybe your the noob for not noing how to use it ur proly one of the people that try and put hole clips into people and complain about it..maybe u should go for head shots not crotch and foot shots thats always a good thing

PS. Bungie u shouldnt make a rifle only game, well u should i guesse but u should make a game thats MLG or a MLG playlist for preview or just normal that would be so sweet! i think alot of other MLG lovers would love that

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  • 05.05.2005 11:34 AM PDT
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Couglation is a sniper map. But only two sniper rifles exist there. Thats not good. Make a pure sniper map of this in matchmaking. Its a map, that comes not often, it would be good, if this will be a pure snipermap!!! Every map should make fun, but when you dont got a proper weapon, no map makes fun. The other maps are good equipped.



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  • 05.05.2005 11:43 AM PDT
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I like to use sometimes the battlerifle, in normal Slayer games. But not, if everybody got one. During the game you only hear the burst bullets. This mode can stay, but not every game i play. Ok it is difficult to handle this weapon, i will be poised to learn how to fight with them. But please not everygame. Is a total different fight feeling than before, and it makes not more fun for me, than should be

  • 05.05.2005 11:51 AM PDT
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I mean I was a 12 before they got reset and I worked my ass off to get there.From Holy Crap Thats Me

How did you work hard to get to lvl 12 when in one day i got to lvl 12 and it was easy


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  • 05.05.2005 12:21 PM PDT
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I like to use sometimes the battlerifle, in normal Slayer games. But not, if everybody got one. During the game you only hear the burst bullets. This mode can stay, but not every game i play. Ok it is difficult to handle this weapon, i will be piosed to learn how to fight with them. But please not everygame. Is a total different fight feeling than before, and it makes not more fun for me, than should be

  • 05.05.2005 12:25 PM PDT
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u just gotta get used to it its my fav weapon i usaly prefer it over sword in most levels call me crazy but its true inless i get br sword then that combo is deadly!

  • 05.05.2005 12:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: xLebron23Jamesx
I mean I was a 12 before they got reset and I worked my ass off to get there.From Holy Crap Thats Me

How did you work hard to get to lvl 12 when in one day i got to lvl 12 and it was easy

hes just not a "elite player" like some i no friends that suck so bad they wouldnt get past rank 8...

  • 05.05.2005 12:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: HolyCrapThatsMe
Look I think that the new games are cool and all but I'm not to thrilled with the ranks being reset. I mean I was a 12 before they got reset and I worked my ass off to get there. I don't know how they did it but I certainly didn't do the rank boost trick. Anyway that's just my opinion...anybody with me?


wow, if you actually have to WORK to a 12, you have some problems... i've worked my way up to a 22 in 1 day.... i'm not being ignorant... i just think it's funny how some people suck so much and how they cry about losing a low level.

  • 05.05.2005 12:31 PM PDT
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that new update was pretty cool other than the fact that u most of the time start off with a br and that really sucks because than people can just shoot u across the map.

  • 05.05.2005 12:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: HolyCrapThatsMe
Look I think that the new games are cool and all but I'm not to thrilled with the ranks being reset. I mean I was a 12 before they got reset and I worked my ass off to get there. I don't know how they did it but I certainly didn't do the rank boost trick. Anyway that's just my opinion...anybody with me?


wow, if you actually have to WORK to a 12, you have some problems... i've worked my way up to a 22 in 1 day.... i'm not being ignorant... i just think it's funny how some people suck so much and how they cry about losing a low level.


Not everyone has all -blam!- day to play Halo 2, dude. I have several friends who are much better than I am, but they were nearly 10 levels below me in everything. They weren't bad, they just hardly played. It can take a lot of games to get to the rank you're supposed to be at, and even more if your friends list is MIA that night. (about 75% of my friends list doesn't play anymore, thanks to all the griefing after the rank reset hit the Bungie news)

  • 05.05.2005 1:38 PM PDT