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So, you guys lock threads when you don't like what they have to say, eh? Just remember that without us, you'd have no forums to moderate.... and nobody to sell your products to.

When we make threads about unfairness, we expect them answered and not locked. Civilized people discuss disagreements and work out injustices. This isn't a flame or a warning - this post is me opening dialogue with you - the moderators - so that we can talk about this like adults.

  • 05.04.2005 3:28 PM PDT
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...dude...

...ok...do you want anything specific for your funeral once the mods are done with you?...

  • 05.04.2005 3:35 PM PDT
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No one hears us, and it seems that it's going to continue that way. TBH, I'm suprised I wasn't blacklisted for having a point...

  • 05.04.2005 3:38 PM PDT
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What did I miss here?
I know it's been pretty crappy around here, but what has suddenly pushed you guys to the breaking point? Give me link or something to the thread.

  • 05.05.2005 6:51 AM PDT
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WoW talking smack to moderators. LOL some people r afriad of them but to be honest why. All they can do is blacklist you. OMG Wow thats it. it THink?
anyway if they block forums or -blam!- like that we cant anything about it. But if we do keep talking -blam!- we will get blacklisted. TO be honest i dont think the moderators care what happens to this forum they blacklist anyone they want they dont give two -blam!-s.

  • 05.05.2005 8:40 AM PDT
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BUNGIE IS -blam!-. PLAY OTHER -blam!-S< F U C K

  • 05.05.2005 10:13 AM PDT
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gbc, you're not making the situation better, although you've accomplished your goal of spamming.

Yeah, I can honestly say that when I came here it wasn't this bad. Mods and members interacted in peace. Now it's just tension, and the only mod activity I see are bannings here, many for no good reason. I can't even remember why I got banned a whiole back, but it was for supposedly calling some the n-word, something I never have and never will do.

If they want war, bring it. They can ban us all they want, they'll just be ruining their community. It's already happening - I don't even feel like this is a community anymore. I would now rather hang out on Guru3D, AMD, or Abit forums than here, where people rarely, I mean once in two months out of thousands of users, get banned. And only for serious reasons.

*Sigh*, this thread is probably gonna be locked.

  • 05.05.2005 11:30 AM PDT
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By locking this thread, they'd be sending us all a message that says they don't care to engage in dialogue. I'm not talking any smack - I'm simply letting the moderators know that I will hold them accountable. Any Governing Body not held accountable by its constituents becomes tyrannical.

My funeral? Psalm 23 and Pepperoni on my tombstone.

This is not a flame, this is a mature request for dialogue. Do not take this out of context, my fellow forum members.

  • 05.05.2005 11:37 AM PDT
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This thread has just been Block........Jk

  • 05.05.2005 1:41 PM PDT

It is the soldier, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press. It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the campus organizer, who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the soldier, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial. And it is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves the flag, whose coffin is draped in the flag that allows the protester to burn the flag.Father Dennis Edward O'Brien, USMC

I agree with you. When you have a good point to make, the mods close it so they dont look bad. Shishka is the main culperate. Gave me the boot for pointing out him breaking the rules

  • 05.05.2005 5:15 PM PDT
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OK heres a rundown...
MODs...
*talking 'smack dab to em'*
you guys/gurls/stillnotsures need to take an interest
this forum, halo pc is jsut as important as halo 2 for xbox
equality is somethin i thought all mods should have in their
blacklisting fingertips, now you can ban me/blacklistme/track down and kill me
but heres the deal U GUYS DONT GIVE A CRAP...
and better start GIVING a CRAP.. because
we are just as important as any other
now im not trying to be rude here or
tell u how to do ur job, do it anyway u like
but take my words into consideration
think about us members, if you dont like
a topic... dont jsut blacklist the poster
and lock the topic, PLEASE borthers and
sister, for PeaCe's sake... lend me your ears,
please care, please read a post, find the
motivation and meaning behind it
... please.. consider...

Oh and for my funeral... i would like
to be buried face down ....
so if anyone dont like me.. they can kiss my A55

thankyou and -PeaCe!

  • 05.05.2005 6:21 PM PDT
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k i'm going to try and put this in perspective here:

#1 when u debate and argue with mods u CAN NOT do anything even remotely off-the-line or u will get Banned. I just think that it's like a situation where a teacher will pick on his/her best student to do good, and not give a BLAM!11 about the others. Really the mods don't even really mod the other forums other than this one anymore. I've been to The Flood, and trust me, ANYONE can say ANYTHING whatsoever there, i've seen some really offensive stuff. As well the other Halo 2 forums are chalk full of flamers, spammers, and just sure-fire idiots as we have all seen. The mods just won't venture into it anymore. the problem is, is that they need more people, i'm sure if Bungie got at least 5 more mods than the situation would improve. However the problem alsways is with governing is that having too many people in seats of power will always create rifts and descents in the "hierarchy" of control. Then as well to make matters worse new people are joining the forums at an exponential rate, not only are these people spamming and filling the forums with stuff EVERYONE knows but what some people don't realsie is that part of the problems the forums have had with loading and other glitches is the massive amount of posts, threads, profiles, groups, and new people the forum infrastructure has to accomodate. Before actually posting on b.net i read & watched this forum for more than 6 months understanding the level of knowledge and understanding that was dogma in these forums. The problem is people joining, who've heard of Halo from a friend of a friend and have no clue what and/or who "Covenant" is and what "MC" stands for. Anyways...back to my point on that teacher example: all the other forums are like the bad students, the mods just can't take care of them anymore, the level of flamers & spammers (i.e stupidity) is out of control, however, this forum, and maybe The Library, and The Underground, which are also relatively small have a good chance to prosper because i know, and i think the mods should, that there's a lot of smart, intelligent people in our forum, and maybe the teachers got lazy, but i all i really want is the mods to know is that there's "some good left in the world frodo, and it's worth fighting for!" errrrrr i mean shiska, well u get the idea :)

  • 05.05.2005 7:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: Cougar941
Oh and for my funeral... i would like
to be buried face down ....
so if anyone dont like me.. they can kiss my A55

thankyou and -PeaCe!


lol! Got that!

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Hm. Interesting points. I think maybe the mods love us!

Or we might be getting regulated because we are much easier to regulate. The h2 forums are absolute chaos.

Btw, so many people fear the mods because a reverence and fear of the mods is part of the Bungie.net culture.

Seriously. Bungie.net is its own little world here. Weve got what, thousands of people here.

  • 05.05.2005 7:53 PM PDT
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It seems funny to me that Chewy got banned for suggesting to get a Keygen, and yet Halo Rules did not for asking where to download HPC. It also seems Ironic that the outspoken thread got locked down and deleted, and yet the thread about where to download HPC has not yet been locked off.

All I'm asking for here is some consistency. If one must lock off a juicy thread, on must also lock off the pointless, space consuming thread. And really if you blacklist me, I don't really care. I don't really NEED this place. That's not to say I don't enjoy it, but if it's modded like it is, I'm out. Plain and simple. I bet by the time I'm done posting this reply, this thread will be locked or deleted.

Good students, bad students... The only reason they lockdown/delete threads here is because there's less junk to read through. if there were about 5 more mods (as mentioned above), they would be in much better shape, because there would be someone to dig through, delete, lockdown w/e the pointless, spamming -blam!-.

Hopefully, however I hope this doesn't turn into the Tienamen (sp?) demonstration, where thousands of college students in China spoke out against communism, only to have themselves blown up by the Chinese army and artillery. Still, I wouldn't be surpirsed if it does.

Surprise me mods. This I pray.

Yout3

PS When we all get blacklisted, I'm tryin to see if i can get my clan leader to let us use the clan forums. They're here . Just post in the "I want to join" box, mention you're from the b.net forums to him, and that I sent you. I'm sure he'll listen. Post a link to this thread too.

PPS. On my tombstone I want
Died in an attempt to smuggle citizens to a better life.
Died trying to avert Tienamen Square.
Died trying to make the world a better place.
Martyred upon the altar of megalomaniacy.

[Edited on 5/5/2005]

  • 05.05.2005 7:59 PM PDT
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Yes, if anything, being strict and being consistent is better than being strict sometimes without consistency - then we don't know what to expect.

SLD's gravestone:

There once was a dude called Nick
Who loved to be funny and sick
He loved to play bass
And compete in a race
And had an enormous...(for censoring purposes...um...the carving is faded and moss covers a few letters)

I wish to be remembered as never taking much of anything seriously or too personal, including my own death and burial :P

  • 05.05.2005 8:20 PM PDT
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side note for you3t: chewy claims not to have ever mentioned a keygen to anyone....

  • 05.05.2005 9:44 PM PDT
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If that's true I am thoroughly disgusted...

  • 05.05.2005 10:17 PM PDT

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I'm fairly new to the Maw. I'm not familiar with a lot of the blacklisting and issues with the mods.

That said, I hate censorship. I want to read the banned posts simply because they were banned.

I've read that better message boards can be set up with free software, (and I know my bicycle club has one). So why don't we?

I have my own website with more storage space than I'll ever need. If someone wants to set it up, I think I can let you use a subdirectory. I say I think because I'm not that up on the tech stuff, I know enough to make web pages for my site.

If you get banned, why not just make a new identity? If you need another e-mail address there are lots of places to get one, (hotmail.com, etc).

I don't know if this will get me banned, but...

  • 05.05.2005 10:32 PM PDT
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all i have to say....

i think that the reason this forum is modded is cause the mods are afraid of all the flood in the other forums. lol

get it? flood lol ok that was pretty ghey

umm

i stand up for the cause man

the mods are not doing their job (no personal offense here)
if they simply wiped the useless -blam!- out of the other forums, and stopped watching us mature intellegent (for the most part :S) people in the pc forum like hawks, then perhaps our good forum members like chewy would still be with us today. and maybe we would have less "PC SUX!!! XBOX ROX J00!!! I m h4xx0rzz!!!" bull-blam!- in here too.

on my grave:
Heero Yuy
Martyred by forum ninjas
NOT COOL

  • 05.05.2005 10:55 PM PDT
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He's not the only one that didn't recieve an explanation. This is just plain ridiculous!

Am I the only person here who's starting to think that maybe we should start thinking about taking this further? I'm sure I've heard that most of the mods here are volunteers, and if that's the case, maybe Bungie need to hear and see what's going on so that we may get some justice!

It's just a thought at the moment, but if there's going to be enough support from SENSIBLE people, I think there is cause for taking another step in the direction of getting this issue resolved.

As I've said before, I'm sure that they just don't want us here anymore...

  • 05.06.2005 2:37 AM PDT

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