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When Halo first came out it seemed fairly obvious that there were bible references in the game. The name Halo, the covenant being the manifestation of the apocalypse. Heck now theres word of the “Halo Bible” that is the storyline source for the game and books. So although I am not a terribly religious person, ive read some bible and in particular I found some correlations in the book of revelation to Halo. That is, what we currently know about halo in the timeframe of the first game. Origionally the Bible was in Greek, possibly why Bungie chose Spartan. I will give explanations before all quotes. Give me more time and Ill make a post about the human forerunner connection through bible interp.


These verses in Revelation seem to describe the circumstances before the invasion and then the invasion of earth as shown in the New Mombasa demo. The four horsemen describe events before the invasion, humans set out to explore and conquer the galaxy (1st horsemen) and found war with the covenant(2nd horsemen). This led to a great taxation of resources (3rd horsemen) and of course were losing and we start dieing (4th horsemen)

REV 6:2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
REV 6:4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
REV 6:5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
REV 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
REV 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.


Here is the invasion sequence

REV 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
REV 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth(elite drop pods and plasma), even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
REV 6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
REV 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;(this would be the evacuation, note there aren’t any civilians in new mombasa)


Heres master chief and the four remaining Spartans

REV 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
REV 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
REV 7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.


The bombardment of earth. Note there are seven angels with trumpets given them by God. God could be the forerunner, the seven angels seven covie races, trumpets given to them are covie tech from forerunner artifacts. Knowing that there are only seven races (grunt, jackal, engineer, hunter, brute, elite, prophet) we know that there will be no more. So in the weekly updates, the CENSORED characters are likely another faction be it flood, forerunner, or other.

REV 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.
REV 8:2 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.
REV 8:3 And another angel came and stood at the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given unto him much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
REV 8:4 And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand.
REV 8:5 And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth: and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake.


Here the covenant horde is released and they will not harm earth for they want forerunner tech but they wish to kill the humans.

REV 9:3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
REV 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.



The horsemen here are Elites for they ride the Ghosts (horses) the description of locusts matches them pretty well, you ever see what a locusts mandibles look like? Just like those of the elites, not to mention the legs.

REV 9:16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.
REV 9:17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire (red), and of jacinth (blue), and brimstone (yellow): and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone (plasma).


This accurately describes the brutes

REV 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.


Heres a prophet description, for do they not lead the covenant dragon? Perhaps it describes an encounter with the head prophet.

REV 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
REV 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

See my other post for the tie in to events that will occur in Halo 2.

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Yeah, that's nice.

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try reading it before you comment

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for those of you intimidated by the post size, this links in H2 characters.

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The mod made me put both posts over here, heres what I cut out in predictions

Some sort of covenant ceremony or attaining of artifacts after landing and using a grav lift to come to earth.

REV 10:1 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:
REV 10:2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,
REV 10:3 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.
REV 10:4 And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.
REV 10:5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven,
REV 10:6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
REV 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.


MC is gonna do a lot of killing.

REV 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
REV 14:15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

below is the rest


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Cortana esp the scene where she is at the Halo control room. Cortana is “full” with information from Halo. The baby is the Halo information which will be key to defeating the covenant.

REV 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:


The dragon, as shown a few lines down is an incarnation of satan, I believe that the seven heads represent the seven species of covenant

REV 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
REV 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne

There will be a period of conflict in which humans will win but covenant will return.
REV 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
REV 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
REV 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Cortana and mc will escape into hiding via Pelican and somehow the covenant will unleash the flood but the flood will be defeated somehow.
REV 12:14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
REV 12:15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
REV 12:16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
REV 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

This accurately describes the brutes

REV 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.


This tells us that one of the races, likely the prophets will either be crippled (by mc) or lose power but recover.

REV 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.


With the passage below Im having trouble with the sheep horned thing, perhaps a new creature? But it seems apparent that humans will be enslaved by the covenant. Perhaps the form of enslavement is floodification.

REV 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
REV 13:12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
REV 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
REV 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
REV 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
REV 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:


There will be some sort of arc for humans to escape.

REV 14:1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.
REV 14:2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:
REV 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
REV 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.


Earth will be glassed, people will be “sent to heaven” / killed

REV 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.


I think these particular seven w/ golden girdles are the leaders of each covie species.

REV 15:6 And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles.

This is a long one but it it looks like the final events that cause the destruction of earth. The flood will be destroyed. Perhaps the earth or even the covie homeworld will begin a “self destruct process” and its waters will boil red as blood. Prophets will be killed. The planet will explode, scorching men, the thief ackerson will be at the Human Arc of Armageddon, covie “beasts” will realize the truth and accept humans and then the planet will explode or the universe will be wiped out via halo.
REV 16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.
REV 16:3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.
REV 16:4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.
REV 16:6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.
REV 16:8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
REV 16:9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
REV 16:10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
REV 16:11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.
REV 16:12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
REV 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
REV 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
REV 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
REV 16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
REV 16:18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
REV 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
REV 16:20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

Heres a prophet description, for do they not lead the covenant dragon? Perhaps it describes an encounter with the head prophet.

REV 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
REV 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:


The covenant will turn on the prophets.

REV 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.


A great space battle which will be brought by a halt by these events.

REV 18:17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,


Again, the “she” was head prophet

REV 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

Im running out of room so Ill summarize the rest, MC is a big paraded hero, the covenant are no longer a threat, and there are cleanup details involving cremation of dead. And we may have a visit from the forerunner or go to their world.

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alright, im logging off soon so if ANYONE wants to discuss nows the time, if not, well it was all that work for nothing, well see when H2 comes out.

  • 07.14.2004 8:23 PM PDT
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a fukin $hit load of work...

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its a bunch of bull -blam!-, people wil make connections to this stuff with anything, remember when they did it with the matrix? and lord of the rings? and probably a lot of other things, its just another stupid theory

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Posted by: Draag
its a bunch of bull -blam!-, people wil make connections to this stuff with anything, remember when they did it with the matrix? and lord of the rings? and probably a lot of other things, its just another stupid theory


I'm just making sure that you know all of those other references you make are based in part off the Bible:)

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an interesting theory you put forward, and I agree with it for the most part

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You forgot about Revelation 1:17 and the verses following it. Master Chief is directly tied to those verses and that verse specifically. John wrote the book of Revelation and if you notice, 1:17 is basically 117. MC's name is John-117 and thus the connection between MC and the verses becomes obvious.

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Very good theory man, this is right up there on top with the other theories i think are possible. and dont mind that other guy who was flaming it, he was prolly jewish or something. It sounds VERY possible and likely to me, given the evidence out of the bible. and if you like this end of times stuff, try reading the Left Behind series. Those are interesting books, but not as interesting as HALO of course.=)

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on topic pic but off at the same time just look at it.
http://img18.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img18&image=HALO_Holy_Comb at.jpg

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I have a few problems with this, first the Bible was originally written in Hebrew not Greek, therefore the Spartans could not have been named for the Biblical reference. Obviously Spartans were war oriented people who bred themselves for battle, especially evident in the Battle of Thermopalae.

If in some cases you compare Master Chief to God, the Seven Angels could not be the seven types of Covenant, because that would be contradictary.

The rest of these comparisons are stretches at best, I think you need a new hobby....

  • 07.15.2004 12:54 AM PDT

Me: "OMFG, Dude... wtf!"
AbolitionofMan: "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to betray you."
Me: "That's the 4th time in this game alone!"
Chris: "Third, besides he had the flag I was trying to stop him, how was I supposed to know you were there."
Me: "I said, 'I got the Flag, don't shoot.'"
Chris: "Well those Wraith shots take a while to reach you."
Me: "You were right next to me, I had killed him and a minute passed before you decided to shoot."
Chris: "Hahahahaha, yeah... that was great."

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I have a few problems with this, first the Bible was originally written in Hebrew not Greek, therefore the Spartans could not have been named for the Biblical reference. Obviously Spartans were war oriented people who bred themselves for battle, especially evident in the Battle of Thermopalae.

If in some cases you compare Master Chief to God, the Seven Angels could not be the seven types of Covenant, because that would be contradictary.

The rest of these comparisons are stretches at best, I think you need a new hobby....


True, Spartans are bred for war. When one things of angels they think of sweet, peaceful beings. But remember, their are two types of angels, Angels as in Guardian Angel's, messenger Angel's, etc. And ArchAngels. These are litterally the Warriors of God. It was ArchAngel Micheal you leads God's Army and who fought ArchAngel Lucifur and cast him and his followers from heaven. Whenever you see a picture of Micheal we ALWAYS see him in Roman-esque armor and with blue or black wings. (Sometimes white but rare), and he wields a rather lethal sword. So this still fits even in Hebrew context.

Secondly Drekos, out--blam!-ing-standing dude. You did major work on this and put forth much time and effort and for that I thank you because now we have this very interesting and highly debatalbe topic.

Achilles

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I think Drekos is absolutely right, and whoever had that halo picture, that was hilarious

but yeah i thinkyouve really found something, and i dont see how MC being the Fifth Angel(Not to mention the main one) and the 7 heads of the devil reincarnation, the red dragon, being the species of the Covenant is contradicting. I think you've stumbled onto something here that wasn't really meant to be found( at least not for a while lol). But this is great quality stuff, i don't know how you found it but it's awesome, and it makes it even better caouse it coincides with my theory that the Covies blindly follow the prophets, and the prophets want men destroyed not "God", so eventually at least some of the races will turn on the Prophets.

Very Nice Man, Thanks for taking the time to type it all out lol

  • 07.15.2004 1:39 AM PDT
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Posted By: Drekos

MC is gonna do a lot of killing.

REV 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.
REV 14:15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.


I see now, Golden Crown (Golden visor, anyone?), sickle (plasma sword aka anti-sunuva-biatch-stick if u will?) The other angel must be someone giving him orders or cortana, not that that part really matters, and again Drekos thanx mucho man. ¡Me Encanta!
I dont know why i wrote that in spanish but i did.

Look at the time
It says bed time
Bye

  • 07.15.2004 2:15 AM PDT

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An army of sheep led by a lion would defeat an army of lions led by a sheep.

Posted by: Raiden2006
I think you've stumbled onto something here that wasn't really meant to be found( at least not for a while lol).


What's that?

  • 07.15.2004 6:07 AM PDT
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Very well done. I dont know if this will help but you left out somestuff.

There are 3 ArcAngels
1. Michael-Warrior (includes guardian angels)

2. Grabrial(sp?)-Messanger

3. Lucifer (Satan)-Pretty Boy/ Worshiper/ Pridefull/ Wanst to destroy Humans and become God

Sound familer??

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I LIKE YOUR THEORY DREKOS BUT THERES ONE THING MISSING! there are 8 types of covenant.....remember frankie said that there will be a new type of covie that can flip a warthog but! the covie just may be the hunter....but wele just have to wait and find out wont we?

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Posted by: DukeNukemTX
Very well done. I dont know if this will help but you left out somestuff.

There are 3 ArcAngels
1. Michael-Warrior (includes guardian angels)

2. Grabrial(sp?)-Messanger

3. Lucifer (Satan)-Pretty Boy/ Worshiper/ Pridefull/ Wanst to destroy Humans and become God

Sound familer??

duke you got that from the movie dogma didnt you?

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lol off topic but that movies awsome

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g, thanks for all the support guys, I was starting to think people would dismiss my post as some overzealous christian nut ranting, I just kinda stumbled onto this one night when I was at a performance at a church and had nothing else to do so I started reading revelation and since I was wishing I was playing halo all the connections came into place.

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1 more thing, the bible may have been first written in hebrew but it was first reproduced, redistributed, and christianity first really became an establishment in greece, for many centuries greek was the language to learn for christians as arabic was for muslims simply because thats what it was written in

Edit: about that new covie species that can flip hogs, brute? theyre new right and in the books theyre stronger than mc, also elites pobly can too so they can use it in mp

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