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Subject: would you go through a spartan2s augmentation but this 1 is more risky
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Posted by: CraSH23000
Theres risks driving a car or using any kind of mechanical device and mc's suit is a mechanical device that isn't like taking drugs like steroids is. This just apart of your arsenal like a gun, it's just the technology that goes along with the advancements of the future.


I wasn't talking about the Master Chief's MJOLNIR suit, we were talking about going through augmentations not wearing MJOLNIR.

  • 07.14.2004 9:32 PM PDT
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Oh, well that sucks I wouldn't leave an MJOLNIR suit if I had one especially if the risks are that high just to beable to be stronger without it.

  • 07.14.2004 9:35 PM PDT
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Nevermind, I didn't see the edit when clicked quote or the other pesons response.

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Posted by: Drekos
besides, you have enough experience, cant you see the appeal of pushing yourself to the next level? increasing your potential? say the average joe who can only bench his own weight before enhancement can do five times his weight after. So you push yourself until you can do 10, 15 times your own weight. How many instances there are when you get in a fight and you wish, if only I was faster, stronger, I wouldnt even have to try, MC can kill an odst with one punch. His reflexes are so fast that he could drop a mob within a matter of seconds. its all about the power!


If "the average joe" wishes to obtain peak physical and mental stability, he better get training, and not pop pills or be injected with chemicals. There is no such thing as obtaining perfect mental or physical ability. You can always go further, there is always, always room to improve. Yeah, of course I wish I was faster or stronger occassionally during sparring, but I out-smart the opponent, not go in the change room and consume a performance enhancing drug. You can always better yourself, so do it naturally, the good old fashioned way.

  • 07.14.2004 9:36 PM PDT

The less risky old fashiond way

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the odds of death are just a "little" too high for the risk.

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If we are ever able to genetically maniuplate ourselves to improve our condition with little risk, I think we should go for it. I don't consider it cheap, the technology to do that was after thousands of years of intelligence. Humans should strive to improve themselves in all ways and if the race is smart enough to figure out how to enhance our physical abilities we should go for it. Our intelligence is a tool as is our sharing of it. This is not to say people should use steroids or other drugs because the use of drugs have other very severe side effects.

EDIT: Oh and if we do find a clean and safe way to enhance ourselves, this does not mean that training will be worthless. Those who take the enhancements and do not train will still not be the best. All the enhancement does is raise the ability of everyone so those that train after it will still be as better than everyone else as they were.

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Posted by: Alerus
If we are ever able to genetically maniuplate ourselves to improve our condition with little risk, I think we should go for it. I don't consider it cheap, the technology to do that was after thousands of years of intelligence. Humans should strive to improve themselves in all ways and if the race is smart enough to figure out how to enhance our physical abilities we should go for it. Our intelligence is a tool as is our sharing of it. This is not to say people should use steroids or other drugs because the use of drugs have other very severe side effects.


Sharing intelligence is fine, but turning ourselves into something in-human is not. Taking performance enhancing drugs, steroids, HGH's its all equally bad and wrong. And its just as bad 500 years from today as it is right now. Just because we have the intelligence to do something doesn't mean we should go do it. We could clone an army of young children, why dont we? Because its against the majority of people's morals including mine. Just because you have the ability to do something, doesn't give you the ticket to do it. America could invade, occupy and probably take over South America, why dont you? Because most people wont support it.

  • 07.14.2004 9:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: Alerus
If we are ever able to genetically maniuplate ourselves to improve our condition with little risk, I think we should go for it. I don't consider it cheap, the technology to do that was after thousands of years of intelligence. Humans should strive to improve themselves in all ways and if the race is smart enough to figure out how to enhance our physical abilities we should go for it. Our intelligence is a tool as is our sharing of it. This is not to say people should use steroids or other drugs because the use of drugs have other very severe side effects.


Sharing intelligence is fine, but turning ourselves into something in-human is not. Taking performance enhancing drugs, steroids, HGH's its all equally bad and wrong. And its just as bad 500 years from today as it is right now. Just because we have the intelligence to do something doesn't mean we should go do it. We could clone an army of young children, why dont we? Because its against the majority of people's morals including mine. Just because you have the ability to do something, doesn't give you the ticket to do it. America could invade, occupy and probably take over South America, why dont you? Because most people wont support it.


Your taking things to quite extremes which have no connections, invading countries? I'm not saying we should do anything because we can, but discovering how to enhance ourseleves with out side effects has no down sides. How is it inhuman? I think its completely human, we have learned how to inprove ourselves which we have been doing all along. Maybe then we shouldn't have artificial hearts, thats inhuman. Or maybe we shouldn't drive cars, humans are supposed to walk! I guess we also shouldn't be taking medicines that heal us, or take vitamin pills just because we learned how to extract vitamins into a compact form. Let me ask you this, why would it be okay if a million years from now humans had overtime mutated into something else? Our intelligence allows us to increase are ability. Can you tell me what bad will come from increasing the physical abilities of everyone?

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Posted by: Alerus
Posted by: Boot117
Posted by: Alerus
If we are ever able to genetically maniuplate ourselves to improve our condition with little risk, I think we should go for it. I don't consider it cheap, the technology to do that was after thousands of years of intelligence. Humans should strive to improve themselves in all ways and if the race is smart enough to figure out how to enhance our physical abilities we should go for it. Our intelligence is a tool as is our sharing of it. This is not to say people should use steroids or other drugs because the use of drugs have other very severe side effects.


Sharing intelligence is fine, but turning ourselves into something in-human is not. Taking performance enhancing drugs, steroids, HGH's its all equally bad and wrong. And its just as bad 500 years from today as it is right now. Just because we have the intelligence to do something doesn't mean we should go do it. We could clone an army of young children, why dont we? Because its against the majority of people's morals including mine. Just because you have the ability to do something, doesn't give you the ticket to do it. America could invade, occupy and probably take over South America, why dont you? Because most people wont support it.


Your taking things to quite extremes heres. I'm not saying we should do anything because we can, but discovering how to enhance ourseleves with out side effects has no down sides. How is it inhuman? I think its completely human, we have learned how to inprove ourselves which we have been doing all along. Maybe then we shouldn't have artificial hearts, thats inhuman. Or maybe we shouldn't drive cars, humans are supposed to walk! I guess we also shouldn't be taking medicines that heal us, or take vitamin pills just because we learned how to extract vitamins into a compact form. Let me ask you this, why would it be okay if a million years from now humans had overtime mutated into something else? Our intelligence allows us to increase are ability. Can you tell me what bad will come from increasing the physical abilities of everyone?


Its in-human because its not natural. Side effects or no side effects, it not right. Just like cloning. I dont know why this was pulled up but if humans evolved, not mutated, than they evolve its natural and right. Overall, this is a battle of morals and ethics. If you think doing strange things like unnaturally enhancing yourself and other strange things like that, then those are you morals. Mine are that unless you earn it you dont deserve it.

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Posted by: Boot117
Posted by: Alerus
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Posted by: Alerus
If we are ever able to genetically maniuplate ourselves to improve our condition with little risk, I think we should go for it. I don't consider it cheap, the technology to do that was after thousands of years of intelligence. Humans should strive to improve themselves in all ways and if the race is smart enough to figure out how to enhance our physical abilities we should go for it. Our intelligence is a tool as is our sharing of it. This is not to say people should use steroids or other drugs because the use of drugs have other very severe side effects.


Sharing intelligence is fine, but turning ourselves into something in-human is not. Taking performance enhancing drugs, steroids, HGH's its all equally bad and wrong. And its just as bad 500 years from today as it is right now. Just because we have the intelligence to do something doesn't mean we should go do it. We could clone an army of young children, why dont we? Because its against the majority of people's morals including mine. Just because you have the ability to do something, doesn't give you the ticket to do it. America could invade, occupy and probably take over South America, why dont you? Because most people wont support it.


Your taking things to quite extremes heres. I'm not saying we should do anything because we can, but discovering how to enhance ourseleves with out side effects has no down sides. How is it inhuman? I think its completely human, we have learned how to inprove ourselves which we have been doing all along. Maybe then we shouldn't have artificial hearts, thats inhuman. Or maybe we shouldn't drive cars, humans are supposed to walk! I guess we also shouldn't be taking medicines that heal us, or take vitamin pills just because we learned how to extract vitamins into a compact form. Let me ask you this, why would it be okay if a million years from now humans had overtime mutated into something else? Our intelligence allows us to increase are ability. Can you tell me what bad will come from increasing the physical abilities of everyone?


Its in-human because its not natural. Side effects or no side effects, it not right. Just like cloning. I dont know why this was pulled up but if humans evolved, not mutated, than they evolve its natural and right. Overall, this is a battle of morals and ethics. If you think doing strange things like unnaturally enhancing yourself and other strange things like that, then those are you morals. Mine are that unless you earn it you dont deserve it.


Explain to me how medicine, glasses, artificial hearts, cars, vitamins, casts, major surgery, etc etc is natural then. I guess you dont get flu shots either unless you can explain how thats natural too.

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  • 07.14.2004 10:16 PM PDT
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Explain to me how medicine, glasses, artificial hearts, cars, vitamins, casts, major surgery, etc etc is natural then.

all that stuff brings people back to the norm(what a healthy human is), well except cars.

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Posted by: Bubbaduck
Explain to me how medicine, glasses, artificial hearts, cars, vitamins, casts, major surgery, etc etc is natural then.

all that stuff brings people back to the norm(what a healthy human is), well except cars.


By who's definition of norm?? So becuase there is a guy that can lift 600 lb objects its okay for me to have enhancements that make me do it then, but if there wasn't it wouldnt be okay? There is no "norm"

Okay how about cars, planes, shoes, the incredible amount of crap that makes us live longer. You're telling me we don't have things that enhance our abilities? Better not use computers because they do calculations for us much faster than us. And the Flu shot doesn't cure the flu, it makes it so we are resistant to it. Thats an enhancement.

  • 07.14.2004 10:26 PM PDT
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eh, good point

  • 07.14.2004 10:28 PM PDT
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yes and my version of the mjolner armor is about 100 times stronger than the original you would have gravity boots that when (walking or running anything on the lines of that) over a 5 mile deep craves or cliff ect. your gravity boots would transmit and detect this depth and activate allowing you to walk on it for an unendless amount of time and the boots have a jump enhancer so youll jump 10 times higher oh and the suit gives you 20 times your already 50 times faster,stronger,an agilitle enhanced body so instead of 5 times your enhanced self its 20 times now what really occurs to me all the time is look at our technologicalley advanced society today than add up that to the year 2552 and we'd be semi alien like tchnolodgy i mean come on the spartans in real life with out the suits in that time (2552) would be 95% or 85% invincible the suit adding on to that would make them god-like meaning the suit would never give into complete molocular desinagration thus making you invulnerable to nukes

  • 07.14.2004 11:48 PM PDT
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oh yeah and the augmentation in our time real life im talkin would be using new found elements medical injections (no steriods becuase steroids are for p.ussyies, qoute from south park) nano cell helpers that would soon be exsumed from your body safely in a couple of weeks than some nano cell injectors added in to your suit for even more than 20 times more like 40 times of the suits enhancer and plus master chief is not a cyborg he can remove his helmet bleed human blood hes all organic except for the nueral inplants that in my version of the suit are the things that make you 30 better and the suit its self makes you 20 better just by putting it on becuase of it being made up of highly advanced material that helps boost the nueral recievers in the suit times 30; so it comes out as the suit gives you 20 times 30 times 40 equaling your enhanced bodies abilities in the suit and out of the suit you can lift 2000 tons with just your pinky or whole hand and fingers invovled

  • 07.15.2004 12:01 AM PDT
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man your intellegent

  • 07.15.2004 12:20 AM PDT
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so far, with all the votes, chances are, none of you that chose yes, have survived, so say goodbye y'all!

  • 07.15.2004 2:53 AM PDT

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