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WARNING: The following is spoilers for anyone who has not read the Halo novels.

In Halo: First Strike we're introduced to the Brute species of the Covenant Structure. We see the Spartans first encounter these creatures, and how powerful and dangerous they are: stronger and more durable than the Spartans.

We see one Brute in the ending of the book named Tartarus. Tartarus is a name taken from Greek Mythology. It is the lowest place in the universe, as far below Earth as Earth is below Heaven. It is the darkness of night three-fold and is a prison for the Titans that fell to the Greek deities. It is also the opposite of Elysium.

John-117, the Master Chief, was born in Elysium City (as seen in Halo: The Fall of Reach). According to Greek Myth, Elysium is a heavenly place where those chosen by the gods are gifted to dwell in.

These two names seem to be a foreshadowing of what may happen with the Brute Tartarus and the Spartan Master Chief, John. Maybe John's trials are meant to take him from Elysium, where he was happy as a child, to the end: maybe meaning some kind of showdown between Tartarus and John.

I don't know if Tartarus' role will continue in Halo 2 or in another novel most likely based off Halo 2. I would imagine him to be some sort of final challenge for the Master Chief, but Bungie didn't really use the "Boss Character" types for Halo: Combat Evolved. Possibilities limitless, John could even die in Halo 2 at the end! While providing closure, that'd suck, wouldn't it?

Francisco Montique Zanzibaked (aka ZeroGee) :P

[Edited on 7/15/2004 2:08:02 AM]

  • 07.15.2004 2:05 AM PDT
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nice information given right there.... i really havent read the books, and dont intend to..(unavailabilty in my area) but that there is a nice umm... thought... guess thing... (mind gone blank) but i cant see you actually knowing who he is, it'd be more like, what in all hell! this Brute is one tough Sunova... (unless a boss bar thing came up somewhere, which would fully suk!)

  • 07.15.2004 2:12 AM PDT
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Allow me to introduce, Fransico Montegue(sp?) Zanzibar, and this one over here is robot #2. "Why doesn't this one get a fancy name?" Lets just say SOMEBODY has an overclocked sasback(sp? no idea..) chip, and rejected all the names we came up with! "Stick it. You're not my real dad."

Oh yea, Codeword: Dirtbag!

Red VS Blue rules...

Oh, and, uh, good theory/prediction.

  • 07.15.2004 2:13 AM PDT
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Snake :P

RVB DOES RULE THOUGH!

Yes, seeing a boss life bar would REALLY blow ass-chunks. I think if Tartarus is something more than a regular old Joe... who is a Brute, his actions will be cinematic.

Or, maybe you'll have to go toe-to-toe in hand-to-hand combat with him, when he sure as hell can whoop your ass or somethin. Who knows?

[Edited on 7/15/2004 2:29:59 AM]

  • 07.15.2004 2:16 AM PDT
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it would be cool if you dropped into a pit or something in a cutscene[again] and got up with no weapons, cept a plasma sword next to you, and tartarus and like 2 friend brutes with plasma swords. no bosses, cuz they are all the same, but itd be a hell of a cool fight...and would just work out story wise.

  • 07.15.2004 9:13 AM PDT
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Halo 2 doesnt use bosses? :P On legendary every Elite has more life/shields/firepower than MC. Even blue ones. Gold Elites have as much as 3 time the overall amout of HP as the Chief. The only reason they can be beat is becasue they are AI and we're not. Sounds like the average boss to me.

  • 07.15.2004 9:17 AM PDT
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Nooo... =( I love the MC. Literally. >_< To avoid further humiliation, I'll just slink out now.

  • 07.15.2004 9:18 AM PDT
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If Tartarus is in Halo 2, it would probably be like that. I wouldn't see plasma swords, I'd see more fist fighting. Or if Tartarus is a jerk, maybe he's got a gun... and you don't.

  • 07.15.2004 11:29 AM PDT
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Tartarus could be in one of the 'end battles' (notice how it one many levels there are more enemies in the end)

Like Tartarus behind a huge army of brutes and/or sword elites, and you are all alone with maxed out ammo with some good weapons, and just blow the sht out of them until you run out of ammo, and then you must grab a plasma sword and go right in the middle of them slashing at all directions

  • 07.15.2004 12:13 PM PDT
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Also maybe at some part at the game you see him and distinguish him by say a new uniform that only he wore or you here his name being called. Something just to distinugish him from the rest of the covenant.

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  • 07.15.2004 12:18 PM PDT
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That was a very thought out theroy!

  • 07.15.2004 12:20 PM PDT
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Boss or not aside, I'm looking more at how the foreshadowing predicts. The Master Chief was BORN in Elysium City. Will he die by Tartarus hands? That'd make a huge ending. That last Spartan dying at the end of the war. I couldn't see how the war would end, though, with MC being dead.

  • 07.15.2004 12:20 PM PDT