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Subject: Render-to-Video Public Beta

Posted by: Aussie Poisons
Translation: Capture cards work better, don't use what we have.

I mean honestly: you're going to make us "pay" to get video clips? Nor can we upgrade from Bungie Pro DLC to regular Bungie Pro? No one will use the beta, because the people would be using it also have the Mythic Maps. Waste. Of. Time.

Also, pricing. I think in the end a capture-card would work out best.


no some of us had gotten the mythic maps with halo wars and some of us already had bungie pro, support your favorite game they support you back thanks Bungie! :)

  • 05.12.2009 5:49 PM PDT

Do or die

finally ive waited for this but i wish it didnt cost any but oh well at least i already bought b pro!
woot this is great and ive already used it

  • 05.12.2009 5:49 PM PDT
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Please check out the maps on my fileshare

I know I don't like the point system very well but I guess it has a point

  • 05.12.2009 5:49 PM PDT

can u tell me what a capture card is i would love 2 know :) and my xbl account SHADOW SNIPERoo u can mssge me on that or back on this

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  • 05.12.2009 5:50 PM PDT

great idea for rendering

  • 05.12.2009 5:56 PM PDT

can u tell me what a capture card is i would love 2 know :) and my xbl account SHADOW SNIPERoo u can mssge me on that or back on this




Something that you plug in you tv and you computer and you can record it then edit it if you want.

  • 05.12.2009 5:58 PM PDT

There's nothing better than a well-chucked norris... I mean nade.

WMV?

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  • 05.12.2009 6:09 PM PDT

Halo 3: ODST, it's like this only a hell lot better.

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WMV?

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That's the standard video format for Windows Computers. If you don't have one then get a converter for it, there should be some online.

And it's good to know that this idea wasn't a myth, what efforts you put into this must have been tremendous. How you take directions you give to a game engine to a video format...it'll probably hurt my brain.

  • 05.12.2009 6:19 PM PDT

Finally, something that makes bungie pro actually worth the "hefty" price tag.

  • 05.12.2009 6:23 PM PDT
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Flag taken, flag dropped....

  • 05.12.2009 6:23 PM PDT

How do I check if my (paid) Bungie gold is still active/alive? I'm assuming it's not but it's been such a long time since the original purchase I don't remember where/how this is done.

  • 05.12.2009 6:25 PM PDT

I think I about pissed myself when i read the headline, but after reading what fine print there was, I about broke something.

The render-to-video feature sounds cool at first glance, but for all the players out there looking to create a montage or a machinima, this is by no means an alternative to a capture card. As a matter of fact, buying a capture card would not only be a worthwhile investment for multiple reasons OTHER than Halo 3 captures, buying a capture card SOLELY for Halo 3 captures would no doubt be cheaper in the long run.

Bungie's "point" system will work much like cell phone minutes in most company's rate structures. There's not going to be "partial points" involved. You will spend a point to render an SD video of "up to one minute" of footage, and a single point will likely cost about a dollar each (but hopefully cheaper). Most players interested in montage and machinima creation will be using clips averaging between three and ten seconds in length, with a montage average of fifty clips per video. Assuming the conclusion drawn about cost is accurate, a single montage would cost around $50 to render via the render-to-video feature. That's $50 you could be putting towards a capture card.

For the people who are rubbed a little raw by the conditions of the rendering feature, there's more than likely a lot of red tape and conditions behind the scenes that Bungie might be legally obligated to abide by. There are server costs to consider, bandwidth usage too. So there are reasons why they have to charge for the service, but I think many people would agree that there are better ways to go about charging for this kind of service. For example, if I were to render all of my clips to video that I have, that would be about 10 minutes of footage that would cost me about $150, solely because all of my clips are 3-5 seconds. Copying a cell phone company's rate structure feels more like extortion if you ask me.

The feature is a breakthrough, no doubt, and we're all going to use it, even if it's just with the free points that us Pro subscribers will get every month or so, but this feature seems to be suffocating in red tape. I hope this good idea doesn't get killed off by Microsoft's greed before it has a chance to really flourish.

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both video qualities are great. HD is outstanding. i am pretty upset about the idea of paying for "Bungie Points" that will be necessary to render the videos. i really wish there was a way to upload them onto your PC for free, but im sure theres an explanation for why Bungie cannot do this. i guess im going to have to look at this optimistically, since i would rather be able to upload videos this way than through a capture card. great work, once again, Bungie =).

  • 05.12.2009 6:33 PM PDT

Get WorkPLaced!!

Oh man, AWESOME!

  • 05.12.2009 6:41 PM PDT

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Where and how should the beta users give feedback? Such as, it works good when I do this, but bad when I do this.


On Youtube. I know the video is not original but it's the only one I had in my file share.
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  • 05.12.2009 6:45 PM PDT

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I don't know how I feel about this. I just downloaded the WMV for Quicktime thingymoheegan, but the picture size is too large for my screen. I can only capture clips under a minute for 1 point otherwise it's more?!! I can't buy a capture card, because most capture cards don't work with Macs. I am in a pickle...

  • 05.12.2009 6:46 PM PDT

can someone pm me the answer to this but if i download a clip someone else has rendered, then will this count towards my minute points?

  • 05.12.2009 6:48 PM PDT

Finally!!!! Thanks Bungie!

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I have the 24 slots in my file share because I downloaded the Mythic Map Pack. Can I still do this because I saw that I couldn't. Will these videos be available in Movie Maker? For the points will I have to buy them with money more Microsoft Points?

  • 05.12.2009 6:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: Jay Morales
I have the 24 slots in my file share because I downloaded the Mythic Map Pack. Can I still do this because I saw that I couldn't. Will these videos be available in Movie Maker? For the points will I have to buy them with money more Microsoft Points?


You obviously didn't read to well. Try again :(

  • 05.12.2009 6:53 PM PDT

M6D
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Ahhhhh. I would have loved to be abel to download this. Are there any future plans on making this available to every one and not just the Pro members?

  • 05.12.2009 6:58 PM PDT

M6D
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  • 05.12.2009 7:03 PM PDT

Inconceivable

i dont fully understand is bungie planning to charge people to download videos? if so thats just stupid. i could go out and get a high quality video card for like 20 dollars. then i could also record stuff from other games.

  • 05.12.2009 7:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: Aussie Poisons
Translation: Capture cards work better, don't use what we have.

I mean honestly: you're going to make us "pay" to get video clips? Nor can we upgrade from Bungie Pro DLC to regular Bungie Pro? No one will use the beta, because the people would be using it also have the Mythic Maps. Waste. Of. Time.

Also, pricing. I think in the end a capture-card would work out best.


no some of us had gotten the mythic maps with halo wars and some of us already had bungie pro, support your favorite game they support you back thanks Bungie! :)
Yes, well not all of us are 12 year old pricks whose parents buy them anything they want.

Your last line did not make sense either. Bungie doesn't support me.

  • 05.12.2009 7:20 PM PDT

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  • 05.12.2009 7:26 PM PDT