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So, if this zero four installation was activated 100 000 yrs ago, it destroyed all sentient life right? Well then how did some of the flood survive to reproduce???? as 343 GS states, "I am gratefull to see that some of them survived to reproduce" How is this possible?? pg 237 in The Flood. Maybe Chap or Eagle can answer this question...

  • 07.15.2004 4:24 PM PDT

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Well I know you were addressing Chaplain and Eagle, but here is My answer anyway.

I feel that the Halo Installations themselves are immune to the effect of the blast. They would serve as an Ark or Fortress of sorts.

  • 07.15.2004 4:30 PM PDT
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hhmm, ic, so then this mean that Chaps theory could possibly be correct?

  • 07.15.2004 4:35 PM PDT
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So, if this zero four installation was activated 100 000 yrs ago, it destroyed all sentient life right? Well then how did some of the flood survive to reproduce???? as 343 GS states, "I am gratefull to see that some of them survived to reproduce" How is this possible?? pg 237 in The Flood. Maybe Chap or Eagle can answer this question...

Because as Cortana stated Halo does not kill the Flood it kills there food. It would only starve the combat forms, the infection forms would be able to remain dormant for 100,000 years much like bacteria.

  • 07.15.2004 4:38 PM PDT
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OOHH HEDWIG! thank you! i remember now as well.

  • 07.15.2004 4:39 PM PDT

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Anyone else ever think that the whole Halo plan to destroy all life of any sufficient biomass is kind of the worst idea ever. I mean, look at it in perspective. That's like saying in order to stop terrorism...we just kill ourselves so that they can't kill us. Seems like there has to be something more to it than what we know....

  • 07.15.2004 4:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: Nelo Angelo
Anyone else ever think that the whole Halo plan to destroy all life of any sufficient biomass is kind of the worst idea ever. I mean, look at it in perspective. That's like saying in order to stop terrorism...we just kill ourselves so that they can't kill us. Seems like there has to be something more to it than what we know....


Not if your race is already gone. See the ancients are dead, and probably thought they'd be gone long before halos activation, so why would they care that there wiping out all life in the galaxy.

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Posted by: PieFresh
So, if this zero four installation was activated 100 000 yrs ago, it destroyed all sentient life right? Well then how did some of the flood survive to reproduce???? as 343 GS states, [color=white]"I am gratefull to see that some of them survived to reproduce"[/color] How is this possible?? pg 237 in The Flood. Maybe Chap or Eagle can answer this question...


Here as Eagle pointed out, 343GS is talking about the forerunners, hes saying hes surprised some of the people (forerunners) escaped the blast on halo to reproduce (eventually known as humans today)

  • 07.15.2004 5:02 PM PDT
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Why is a bubble spherical? It is because it is the most efficient shape. It's the same with life. Halo doesn't wipe out all life, just life that can sustain the Flood. This still leaves room for evolution to take its natural course all over again.

  • 07.15.2004 5:14 PM PDT

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Chaplain's end result may be correct, I never stated otherwise, he simply had a bad theory to deduce it. I do agree that Humans are Forerunner but I did not make a baseless theory about it, and don't attack people that disagree with me...

What he failed to realize in his jealous tyrade, is that just because the thought process works, people are going to question it, I actually have gotten to the point where I will not respond to him anymore. Eagle's theory matches my thought's only by 70% but he came up with a good explanation for it, and his theory is a theory based in literature that could be proven with little extenuating evidence.

I do not respond to Chaplain about the issues, because he is stubborn, and seems to twist his words to fit circumstance. I am sure his idea about Humans being Forerunner is correct, but I disagree with his logic process and his theory in general was poorly thought out. As he does research however, he has been adding to his theory and making it better. All he needs to do is work on his attitude.

But back on topic, the Flood were not destroyed by the rings last firing, which leads me to the conclusion that anything on the Halo itself is protected from the blast. Remember Cortana's line when you reinserted the Index, 'Halo doesn't kill Flood, it kills their food.'
I'm not sure if it's direct, but it is close enough. It seems that if it would destroy anything with the biomass to support the flood (which, presumably, would include the hosts) then the Flood would have had to survive the first firing, by being on the ring.

  • 07.15.2004 5:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: Nelo Angelo
Anyone else ever think that the whole Halo plan to destroy all life of any sufficient biomass is kind of the worst idea ever. I mean, look at it in perspective. That's like saying in order to stop terrorism...we just kill ourselves so that they can't kill us. Seems like there has to be something more to it than what we know....


Unless they were protected from the blast, inside the Halo.

  • 07.15.2004 5:19 PM PDT
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I do hate to enter this thread, because it makes me look bad, but, I can't help it. These things written here, i've already said, and you know what finnally makes them work? Me not saying it. Nobody likes me here, that's because I had this crazy idea that Eagles theory was incorrect, and mine was. I'm willing to bet, that if you guys stated what I said, everyone would beleive you. Do what you want though.

  • 07.15.2004 5:26 PM PDT

Once again.... stop taking credit for other people's work, Chaplain:)

My answer to the question in this thread is at the new thread I started. It addresses what you're asking me:)

It's titled "The Forerunners Survived to Reproduce?" and it should be on the first page:)

[Edited on 7/15/2004 5:34:24 PM]

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Chaplain? Read my post. Many people in here actually DO agree with your idea. It's the way you presented it that causes people to argue with you so much, myself included. You just need to calm down and realize that it's not a popularity contest. This post above was probably the calmest and most rational post I've seen where you disagreed with someone. Listen -- I AGREE WITH YOUR IDEA. I simply disagreed with your theory. The result is fine, it was the process that needed work. Nobody who was worth a damn would have flamed you if you weren't acting like a jerk in Eagles thread. The reason you made so many enemies so fast, is because you were coming down on us for thinking into it, and now that you are getting into it, it makes you look like a hypocrite. Now you are seeming to act a little better, and if you ARE = I thank you.

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Trust me you guys, over 75% of you had Mob mentality back there, I wasn't arrogant at all (Except for that last comment I made saying I was always better, that was just to piss yuo off.) And Eagle, I have said pretty much everything that they've said on this whole thread. I wasn't taking credit for other people's work.

Go look back at what I said, I didn't get angry, upset and flame people. All I did was calmly reply to 20 flames and 20 questions.

  • 07.15.2004 5:46 PM PDT

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Look at your early posts in Eagles thread....

I'm not trying to argue with you, but it was there that you started flaming us first...

And yes I may have gotten carried away, but you called me a liar in one of your posts, and that infuriates me. Sorry, I apologize for Flaming you.

But I am not a liar. I do my best to always be truthful, because I believe that it will come back to haunt you...

  • 07.15.2004 5:52 PM PDT