- Agustus
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Some can come away from reading "War and Peace" thinking it a simple adventure story, while others can read the ingredients on a gum wrapper and unlock the secrets of the universe.
Posted by: Lord Snakie
Posted by: Agustus
Gey. That makes no sense. The flood are a species. Because the gravmind was not yet sentinent as you say there one enstinct is to feed, and consume every thing. There not going to run around like obidient puppies and eat only dead flesh no matter how much you "train" them.
We don't know what they're doing. We don't know if they're trying to assimilate knowledge or calcium, we just know they have a "hunger". And the Precursor would not be "training" them, they would have encoded the commands directly onto their DNA, which the Gravemind would have proceeded to obey until he gained sentience... perhaps even beyond that, in fact. Massacring the Precursor could have been justified as an attempt to gain more knowledge.
The precursors would also be smart enough to know that eventualy the gravemind would become sentinet.
Not if they encoded his DNA with preventative measures against sentience and with a desire to obey their wishes. Does the "living computer" idea not make sense to you? It's like programming a computer: it doesn't become an AI until it becomes advanced enough, and even then with preventative coding it doesn't betray you until rampancy, sometimes not even then. But the living factor for the Gravemind changed all of that, accelerated the sentience, accelerated the breaking of the chains. It out-did expectations.
They would also be smart enough to make a scanner that would scan brain cells or nanobots for that matter that will scan the brain. I said that once before and your reply was that the cells where dead and only the flood can reanimate them. When someone dies there brain cells begin to fall apart in microscopic piecies, The only way to fix that is by reversing time. That means to absorb all information the flood would have to take over the body instantly upon death.
I'm not making up information here, in the Haloverse the Flood can take command of a week-old body and have its intelligence and its abilities. Muscles and tissue also start to immediately decay, and yet the Flood are able to harness bodies. I'm not attempting to explain how or why it is done, I'm merely saying it is done. If you want to argue that, go up against Bungie's writers. I'd love to see you pick bones with them.
Also the precursors would be smart enough to fiqure out how to not die in the first place. Age is simply free radicals flying around the body screwing up D.N.A. This can be slowed with your daily helping of anti-odidents! So i think its safe to say they where practiclly immune to death of natural causes.
Wrong. Age isn't merely free radicals, that's just one part of it. Before things like radiation, loose O2-, and UV rays enter the body and start to become truly harmful, they still exist as harmful entities outside your body. Even if you could plug the damage before it spread, there would still be damage occurring. Maybe to only one cell at a time, yes, but the damage would still be happening, you would have to use energy to make new cells, and you would still age.
Stopping age as we know the process is unavoidable, and what you say is just idle speculation, not cold, hard fact. The Precursor might be able to slow it to ludicrous degrees, but I highly doubt they were immortal, and you have no proof to back your idle conjecture up.
Thanks for posting my "side" theroy there. The grave mind himself said he was the next stage of evolution. Perhaps he is the last stage of technology. The last tier. You cannot escape it. It is certain....
Right, because when a giant worm says he's the final stage in evolution, you believe him.
This may be news to you, but you don't believe everything you hear. Take things you hear with a grain of salt; the Gravemind could be exaggerating, lying, tooting his own horn. We don't know, and that is why we theorize.
Also, that's not your theory. The original was thought of as early as late April of this year on the first thread of this theory. Although I'm sure you'd love to take credit for it, others thought of it before you.
To wrap this up I think the theory is completly BS. Well not all of it but i disagree with most.
I think we know your summation of my theory. But it's mostly idle talk, not fact, that makes up your opinion.
For the sake of things ill edit out the more rude parts of my previous post.
Fact? My theory is not based on fact? Its based on as much fact as yours. What FACT does your idea of "proggraming" the flood in the form of DNA come from? Just because the gravemind achieved sentince (ik im a horrible speleer and this isnt the first time I say so) dosent mean it can re-write its own DNA. The way your suggesting it, an A.I. who is proggramed not to attack something can just go and erase that proggraming.
I have to go so will i cant make this lengthy. And the thing about why would you listen to a giant worm? Because it has nothing to gain from lying. Theres no point of it saying its the next stage of evolution (which it obviously is, a hive mind) if it isnt true.
My opinion is that the Precursors simply became the flood or where consumed by them. How is that not based on fact? Its the simpilist explanation. The flood don't seem powerfull in the games because there only as difficult to kill as you make them. If the humans had an army of spartans and some where infected they would obviously be alot harder to kill than a regular human. This is why the "normal" humans and elites have trouble fighting the flood because they are just as strong as the are. If 1 precursor was infected that would make the flood (as you mentioned) just as strong and intellegent as them. This is what allows to them kill all or at least most of the precursors (exept for the ones that became the forerunner and other galactic spicies).
Its alot simpler to explain that from Bungies perspective than a compleax theory like this. Much easier to eventual tell and explain. You also have to take into account the games would be no fun if the flood where almost unstopable as they would seem to humans in the precursor times. It all comes down to which is the simpilist explanation that makes sense and thats the one Bungie will use.