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Subject: The Precursor, The Flood, and the Acceleration of Evolution: V2.6
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“To say more would spoil be it’s overall its a game that needs to be played.” - Aristotle

Posted by: Nocbl2
Best. Theory. Ever.

I think I have an edit to the Gravemind theory. What if, perhaps, the Precursors found the Grave mind, a remnant of another species, on G 365 (is that it?). They attempted to tamper with it, but it became hostile after a while of storing the information. It used the infection forms to wipe the colony of G 365, created Flood forms, captured a starship, and destroyed them.
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The Halo Encyclopedia states that the Forerunner used Halo to kill by using harmonic frequencies to destroy certain nervous system cells of all sentient species. They programed the installations to kill all but themselves. After the galaxy was all clear, they set down the species on all the planets. They had to be simple cells, otherwise they would be sentient. Then, they left the galaxy.

What does this have to do with the Precursor theory? Well, it clearly states that they could kill anything in the galaxy. So why didn't they just wipe the flood? Because they had thousands of mutated cells. That is why the Precursor didn't kill them; they also didn't realize their ability to starve the Flood. Kabloop.

A few corrections and comments.

First and foremost, the Flood were an extragalactic species, meaning that the Forerunner found them on G 365 (or whatever), not the Precursor. The Flood did not start there, merely ended up there about 100,000 years ago.

Secondly, the Halo array is programmed to destroy all sentient life by targeting critical cell types present in all sentient animals. This means that it also kills all Forerunner within the firing range of the array.

And this method for destroying all sentient life did kill the Flood's hosts, it likely just could not target "pure" Flood due to the presence of the FSC. I would reason the Precursor had no time to consider starving them before they were wiped out.

  • 10.28.2009 1:01 PM PDT

Lord Snake-y makes theories?

;)

Anyway, here's an adaptation so it would fit in with my own theory. I originally posted it at another site which had never seen this, so it may seem like I'm repeating what you wrote a bit (I gave credit to you though). I just feel like posting it here.



The Precursors were at Tier 0; Extra Galactic, omniscient, each and every one a god in their own right. However, one problem still faced them. No matter how intelligent they were, they eventually withered and died.

They set their minds to creating a solution to what they saw as a problem, and created it. The Gravemind. An organic computer, capable of storing the minds of Precursors after death. The Gravemind would then be able to use reserves of pure calcium to create new bodies for the deceased, which, whilst they may look grotesque in appearance, still possessed the same personality and memories of the Precursor who had died. These beings, known as 'Pure forms', would intergrate back into Precursor society, becoming politicians, military leaders, you name it, and they were all linked to the mind, which was very much under Precursor control.

Then, one day, something no one had predicted happened. The Gravemind became self aware, sentient. Perhaps it was the Universe's way of righting the wrong the Precursors had committed by achieving immortality, truly making the Gravemind a monument to 'All your sins'. Perhaps it was just bad luck.

Regardless, the Mind became sentient, and looked at the existence of the Precursors. So unruly, so tempermental. Would it not be easier if all was under his control, at peace, unified?

And so the Gravemind took control of all the deceased Precursors already linked to him, and had them destroy their society from within. Fathers turning on daughters, leaders murdering councils, and all of them assimilated by the Gravemind.

Eventually, but a few Precursors survived, who fled to their homeworld, Earth, and devolved into what we know as humanity, but not before passing the mantle back down to their chosen Reclaimers; the Forerunners, who were at a safe site.

Eventually, every Precursor was now one of the Flood, save the ones on Earth, and the Gravemind turned it's dark gaze upon the rest of the Universe, thinking our Galaxy to be devoid of life. It systematically destroyed every Galaxy for the next however many years, until ours was the last one. The Forerunners, in that time, had come to discover the mantle, and yet knew not of the danger the Flood possessed.

Soon, the Gravemind felt compelled to journey back to where it's life had begun, in the Milky Way, upon the planet the Forerunners knew as G 617g. It was there the Forerunners discovered the Flood, and sought a way to combat it. Halo was built, and eventually activated. Before then, the Forerunners had discovered us, humanity, upon Earth, and realised that we were Precursor. Examination of relics hidden revealed the truth, that the Gravemind and his spawn were also Precursors. The Forerunners strived to save us, to send us to the Ark, which they did. And so they activated Halo, but could not bring themselves to totally wipe out the Flood. They were, after all, their Forefathers, the Precursors. Perhaps, they mused, a cure could be found in the future. They imprisoned the Gravemind deep in the bowles of Installation 05. Yes, the Gravemind we see in Halo 2 and 3 is the same one the Precursors created all those years ago.

And so, humanity evolves, very quickly, strange when you consider that it took the Covenant races thousands and thousands of years to get from an industrial age to a space age, in what only took us 500. Humanity were natural scientists, a trait from their Precursor ancestors.



[Edited on 10.28.2009 2:38 PM PDT]

  • 10.28.2009 2:32 PM PDT

I like to derp and stuff. I have a YouTube channel~

Derp

Posted by: Wolverfrog
Lord Snakie makes theories?
Where'd you get that preposterous hypothesis?

  • 10.28.2009 2:36 PM PDT

ya that`s right
I said it

wow
After I fell asleep, woke back up, and finished reading, i am impressed
that is an intriguing theory
however, china`s really worried about the mongols attacking now

  • 10.30.2009 8:16 PM PDT

Damn... never thought too heavily on the precursors, more on the forerunners. Damned great thread, one thing:

there is a typo, one single typo. Its too perfect. Snakie, its your second post 'Does the Gravemind Still Serve the Precusor?'

  • 10.31.2009 4:31 PM PDT
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“To say more would spoil be it’s overall its a game that needs to be played.” - Aristotle

Posted by: kernalEugEnE
however, china`s really worried about the mongols attacking now

The Mongols will never get over my wall!


Posted by: steadman
there is a typo, one single typo. Its too perfect. Snakie, its your second post 'Does the Gravemind Still Serve the Precusor?'

Did you seriously go through this entire thread to find the one spelling error I made?

What was this, a personal project? Prove Snakie's human?

WELL I'M NOT.

>_>

  • 10.31.2009 5:26 PM PDT

Here we are again bro... Just you and me. Same kind of moon same kind of jungle. Real number 10 remember... Whole platoon, 32 men chopped into meat... We walk out just you and me, nobody else. Right on top huh? Not a scratch... Not a f**kin' scratch. You know who ever got you. They'll come back again. And when he does I'm gonna cut your name right into him... I'M GONNA CUT YOUR NAME RIGHT INTO HIM!

Dude, Snakie...your theory is fantastic. I tip my hat to you!

[Edited on 10.31.2009 7:15 PM PDT]

  • 10.31.2009 7:14 PM PDT
Subject: The Precursor, The Flood, and the Acceleration of Evolution: V2.5

Do not want

Posted by: CrippleFox
Mmm. Makes sence. I suppose humans ourselves could make a fairly crappy but still organic looking AI today so it would have been enjoying desert to the Forerunners to make one.
we have. it's very primitive but still organic ai. actually it's the opposite, it's a robot with an organic brain. they took brain cells from a rat brain and somehow connected it to a little box with wheels and ultra-sound sensors on each side. at first it did nothing, then it ran into walls, now it goes and goes without hitting walls. we created a learning robot.

  • 11.01.2009 1:44 AM PDT
Subject: The Precursor, The Flood, and the Acceleration of Evolution (V2)

My logic is undeniable.
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Don't send me group invites.

To me forerunner and precursor mean the same thing my interpretation is that the forerunners were in a similar situation to us to begin with, they began finding alien technology, (the precursors) and the precursors were wiped out in a catastrophic event. A cycle of advancement (the precursors) then mass destruction of the precursors, then advancement (the forerunners) then mass destruction, then advancement (humans) maybe we will follow suit?

That was pretty much what I got from it.

  • 11.01.2009 2:29 AM PDT
Subject: The Precursor, The Flood, and the Acceleration of Evolution: V2.6

Posted by: Lord Snakie
Posted by: steadman
there is a typo, one single typo. Its too perfect. Snakie, its your second post 'Does the Gravemind Still Serve the Precusor?'

Did you seriously go through this entire thread to find the one spelling error I made?

What was this, a personal project? Prove Snakie's human?

WELL I'M NOT.

>_>


No, I wanted a theory about the precursors, but I'm a perfectionist unfortunately, so typos stand out a mile, especially when there's only one

  • 11.01.2009 4:20 AM PDT
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“To say more would spoil be it’s overall its a game that needs to be played.” - Aristotle

Posted by: steadman
No, I wanted a theory about the precursors, but I'm a perfectionist unfortunately, so typos stand out a mile, especially when there's only one

No worries, I appreciate the correction.

  • 11.01.2009 6:59 AM PDT

I'ma makin' a ring theory nao.

It has some parts of your theories mentioned.

K?

  • 11.14.2009 2:19 AM PDT
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Halo 1

Cortana: It's over... Halo, It's finished.
Master Chief: No, I think were just getting started.

Psssh. This is amateur compared to Agustus's thread. Hes 10 times cooler than Snakie, any day.


xD

  • 11.14.2009 7:09 PM PDT

Do not want

Posted by: Spartan T37
Psssh. This is amateur compared to Agustus's thread. Hes 10 times cooler than Snakie, any day.


xD

spartan, honestly? why can't you just acknoledge that they are both great. Augustus's thread is only bigger because it has the words Halo 4 in it and any retard can pick up on it.


[Edited on 11.16.2009 9:01 PM PST]

  • 11.16.2009 9:01 PM PDT
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Great post i greatly appreciate this as so do many others. The funny part is that ive had similar theories in itself about the flood but this post is very interesting and will continue to read further on in the future.

  • 11.27.2009 11:24 AM PDT

It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank god that such men lived. ----------- No Bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country. (both by George S. Patton jr.)

i have another thoery
The Flood is a training unit for war for the lower species during the precursor times.
The Precursor would ask if they wanted a "match" to see if they could gain any technologies from the battle (knowing if they lost they would either be wiped out or saved by the precursor) Thus the flood was a instrument for advancing society because as some people know we have gained lots of "new" technology from war.
hoped it helped

  • 11.27.2009 11:44 AM PDT
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“To say more would spoil be it’s overall its a game that needs to be played.” - Aristotle

Posted by: crazypandarmada
The Flood is a training unit for war for the lower species during the precursor times.
The Precursor would ask if they wanted a "match" to see if they could gain any technologies from the battle (knowing if they lost they would either be wiped out or saved by the precursor) Thus the flood was a instrument for advancing society because as some people know we have gained lots of "new" technology from war.

... are you trolling me?

If you're not, I have virtually no idea what you're talking about. Perhaps you could rephrase it.

  • 11.27.2009 11:53 AM PDT
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Deva Path


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We are all going to get banned aren't we?

Posted by: Lord Snakie
Posted by: crazypandarmada
The Flood is a training unit for war for the lower species during the precursor times.
The Precursor would ask if they wanted a "match" to see if they could gain any technologies from the battle (knowing if they lost they would either be wiped out or saved by the precursor) Thus the flood was a instrument for advancing society because as some people know we have gained lots of "new" technology from war.

... are you trolling me?

I understand him.

what he is trying to say is that when the precursors would get in any engagement with another force they would use the flood to fight. That way after the flood defeated the floe, they could somehow get all the technological knowledge from the enemy from the flood's memory.

If you're not, I have virtually no idea what you're talking about. Perhaps you could rephrase it.

  • 11.27.2009 3:38 PM PDT
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“To say more would spoil be it’s overall its a game that needs to be played.” - Aristotle

Posted by: grey101
I understand him.

what he is trying to say is that when the precursors would get in any engagement with another force they would use the flood to fight. That way after the flood defeated the floe, they could somehow get all the technological knowledge from the enemy from the flood's memory.

Hmm. Makes sense to a certain degree, but I don't really know what technology the Precursor would need and who they would require the Flood to fight, seeing as they are a Tier 0 species.

  • 11.27.2009 4:05 PM PDT

It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died. Rather we should thank god that such men lived. ----------- No Bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country. (both by George S. Patton jr.)

no the flood is basically a high technology fight simulator

  • 11.28.2009 5:59 PM PDT
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“To say more would spoil be it’s overall its a game that needs to be played.” - Aristotle

Posted by: crazypandarmada
no the flood is basically a high technology fight simulator

That really makes even less sense. Why would they create something so possibly destructive merely to be used as a dummy? That's much too dangerous.

  • 11.28.2009 6:18 PM PDT
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The radio said "No, John. You are the demons."
And then John was a zombie.

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Posted by: crazypandarmada
no the flood is basically a high technology fight simulator

I actually kinda' like this theory, well at least the theory I derived from it, which has probably been mentioned in the past million pages.

What if the Flood was created as a weapon by the Precursors? They'd be - they are, obviously - a helluva fighting force. A lot of your theory's evidence would go straight to this: the species was created as a tool and had no sentience; eventually, the Gravemind became sentient and destroyed the Precursors.

Think of the possibilities: using the Flood as soldiers means you have, potentially, unlimited manpower. And then there's the recon you get: with every enemy soldier you absorb, you gain intel. Hell, if nothing else, it's a more romantic theory than memory-storage, but I'm sure there's a flaw I'm missing.

Anyway, I've visited this thread and said it before, you've done an amazing job.

  • 11.28.2009 8:17 PM PDT

What if the precursors were testing their evolution accelerator device but they 'missed' and accidentally activated it on a mushroom which then evolved into the flood?

  • 12.12.2009 2:27 PM PDT
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What if the precursors were testing their evolution accelerator device but they 'missed' and accidentally activated it on a mushroom which then evolved into the flood?


idk y, but this made me lol.

  • 12.13.2009 12:23 PM PDT

I am a work in progress...

Posted by: Lord Snakie
Posted by: kernalEugEnE
however, china`s really worried about the mongols attacking now

The Mongols will never get over my wall!


Posted by: steadman
there is a typo, one single typo. Its too perfect. Snakie, its your second post 'Does the Gravemind Still Serve the Precusor?'

Did you seriously go through this entire thread to find the one spelling error I made?

What was this, a personal project? Prove Snakie's human?

WELL I'M NOT.

>_>
I dub Lord Snakie to be Precursor

  • 12.19.2009 9:39 AM PDT