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Subject: The Precursor, The Flood, and the Acceleration of Evolution: V2.6

Yikes

That, was, amazing

  • 12.19.2009 11:28 AM PDT

Do not want

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Posted by: Lord Snakie
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however, china`s really worried about the mongols attacking now

The Mongols will never get over my wall!


Posted by: steadman
there is a typo, one single typo. Its too perfect. Snakie, its your second post 'Does the Gravemind Still Serve the Precusor?'

Did you seriously go through this entire thread to find the one spelling error I made?

What was this, a personal project? Prove Snakie's human?

WELL I'M NOT.

>_>
I dub Lord Snakie to be Precursor
I've figured it out! Snakie is not a "Halo theorist" as he would like us to believe. He is actually a Precursor Messenger/ historian/ convict/ librarian

  • 12.19.2009 2:57 PM PDT

Nice question on the What's update. The theory is looking better than ever.

  • 12.19.2009 11:18 PM PDT
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The Seventh Column demands it.

My, oh, my, how did I miss this? Saved for future dissection. It may prove useful.

  • 12.20.2009 4:08 PM PDT

Hm. Quite intrigueing...

Perhaps... WE ARE PRECURSOR???

  • 12.20.2009 5:18 PM PDT

',:|

Posted by: AlexWIWA sXe
Posted by: Fife1100
Posted by: Lord Snakie
Posted by: kernalEugEnE
however, china`s really worried about the mongols attacking now

The Mongols will never get over my wall!


Posted by: steadman
there is a typo, one single typo. Its too perfect. Snakie, its your second post 'Does the Gravemind Still Serve the Precusor?'

Did you seriously go through this entire thread to find the one spelling error I made?

What was this, a personal project? Prove Snakie's human?

WELL I'M NOT.

>_>
I dub Lord Snakie to be Precursor
I've figured it out! Snakie is not a "Halo theorist" as he would like us to believe. He is actually a Precursor Messenger/ historian/ convict/ librarian

Is this a warning?


Anyway, that was a damn good read.
Well done, Shnawky.

And it makes me wonder...
Did Bungie really come up with all of this?
Or did this happen accidentally?
I want to think this whole thing was accidental, but its so complex and makes so much sense it can't be anything less than totally planned and kept quiet for us to put two and two together.
Wow.

  • 12.22.2009 5:46 AM PDT

i can only count to jagermeister.

I have one thing to say about the flood, and maybe this has already been said. If so, I apologize.

It is interesting that the flood really isn't all that powerful in the games, yet has defeated entire civilizations that were far more advanced than humanity or the covenant. I think this is because the flood is only as weak or powerful as the hosts they have to infect. Obviously if they were infecting Precursor, the war would be at a much different level than, say, flood vs grunts. Yes, some of their knowledge might have been preserved, but when it comes to combat forms and technology available they are restrained by what they are fighting.

This is also what makes them so dangerous. Maybe 'restrained' is the wrong word because they are instantly at the same level whether that brings them down or up.

Also, you have to think in terms of sheer numbers. The flood can not only create forms, but every enemy killed is a potential host. This means you are now fighting an enemy that is at the same level as you but with exponentially more population as the war rages on.

You don't really see this aspect in the games because you aren't playing as a standard soldier. You never fight infected Spartans.

  • 12.22.2009 12:12 PM PDT
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Interesting to think about, when you think about it.
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I have one thing to say about the flood, and maybe this has already been said. If so, I apologize.

It is interesting that the flood really isn't all that powerful in the games, yet has defeated entire civilizations that were far more advanced than humanity or the covenant. I think this is because the flood is only as weak or powerful as the hosts they have to infect. Obviously if they were infecting Precursor, the war would be at a much different level than, say, flood vs grunts. Yes, some of their knowledge might have been preserved, but when it comes to combat forms and technology available they are restrained by what they are fighting.

This is also what makes them so dangerous. Maybe 'restrained' is the wrong word because they are instantly at the same level whether that brings them down or up.

Also, you have to think in terms of sheer numbers. The flood can not only create forms, but every enemy killed is a potential host. This means you are now fighting an enemy that is at the same level as you but with exponentially more population as the war rages on.

You don't really see this aspect in the games because you aren't playing as a standard soldier. You never fight infected Spartans.

  • 12.28.2009 6:45 PM PDT

Si-!

Posted by: Person25
Interesting to think about, when you think about it.
Posted by: Painbow 6
I have one thing to say about the flood, and maybe this has already been said. If so, I apologize.

It is interesting that the flood really isn't all that powerful in the games, yet has defeated entire civilizations that were far more advanced than humanity or the covenant. I think this is because the flood is only as weak or powerful as the hosts they have to infect. Obviously if they were infecting Precursor, the war would be at a much different level than, say, flood vs grunts. Yes, some of their knowledge might have been preserved, but when it comes to combat forms and technology available they are restrained by what they are fighting.

This is also what makes them so dangerous. Maybe 'restrained' is the wrong word because they are instantly at the same level whether that brings them down or up.

Also, you have to think in terms of sheer numbers. The flood can not only create forms, but every enemy killed is a potential host. This means you are now fighting an enemy that is at the same level as you but with exponentially more population as the war rages on.

You don't really see this aspect in the games because you aren't playing as a standard soldier. You never fight infected Spartans.


I think you need to take into account that the relative weakness of the Flood in the actual games has a lot to do with gameplay. Obviously you can't have ridiculously powerful enemies or it won't be fun.

That said, I think most of the strenght that the Flood has comes from the ability to use technology of the host it infects. That way it can fight with ships. They don't really need to be that physically powerful.

  • 12.28.2009 10:07 PM PDT

Hmmm, I don't know what to say...

Evolution isn't real.

  • 12.29.2009 7:29 AM PDT
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Posted by: Masontheslayer9
Evolution isn't real.

Son, please do not troll in my thread. If you don't believe evolution is real, that's all fine and well, but the Halo universe does. With that in mind, this theory was made. Take your own beliefs, put them aside, and think in the context of this fantasy universe if you want to discuss it.

Otherwise, back to my first statement: don't troll in my thread.

  • 12.29.2009 7:44 AM PDT

♠NêX♠

Aaaaah, what a breath of fresh air to lungs long inhibited by the stench of ignorance and zealous dogma!

I find your theory the most interesting I have had the pleasure of reading in my knowledge-expansive, albeit brief, stay here. I'm not sure if you would rather discuss this through private messages, but I will at least post my first, for lack of a better word, "response" here in the thread itself. The wonderful thing about this theory is that it doesn't contradict itself, and it is obviously a well thought out thesis made by an intelligent person. The part about the Flood being a creation of the Precursors - brilliant, and plausible. I see no flaws, or room for improvement, other than stagnating in a sideways direction in saying that the other side, that the Flood ARE Precursor, is equally plausible, although had the Precursors' Flood creation infected and assimilated them into their own network, in a sense, they are either way you look at it, making that argument supererogatory.

The element that first sprang into my consciousness was when you spoke of the Flood's arrival in our galaxy, on the distant planet, where it was first discovered by the Forerunners; all your theory from those flood having bio-degrading hindrances as to why their memories are gone makes perfect sense, but I wonder if you feign no hypothesis, or if it didn't come to your attention, or if somehow I have misread, or misinterpreted, but would the flood that initially infected/consumed the Precursors into their collective not still be in dominance in that other galaxy? And, using said logic, would the flood that were in this galaxy not be their equivalent of a colony here? And continuing, would there not be "Hyper-Flood" on the way with their absorbed Tier-0 accomplishments?

Although Tier-0 is speculatory at best, its obvious that if the Flood are not from this galaxy, whatever sent them was in fact trans-sentient, and that the only other race before the Forerunners (that we know of in this context) were the Precursors, simple logic tells us Tier-0 did exist, the Precursors did have it, and that the Flood now have it elsewhere in the universe, and that they may be on their way now.

Now, as beautifully constructed as this theory is, I don't think it will be canon, as the UNSC/Covenant alliance simply can not deal with this kind of threat.

Honest opinion, nothing less, and I would love to hear what you think of this.

With utmost respect,

NêX

  • 12.30.2009 11:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sum Vestri NeX
but would the flood that initially infected/consumed the Precursors into their collective not still be in dominance in that other galaxy? And, using said logic, would the flood that were in this galaxy not be their equivalent of a colony here? And continuing, would there not be "Hyper-Flood" on the way with their absorbed Tier-0 accomplishments?

That really depends upon how the Flood were sent to our own galaxy. They could have been sent as a simple colony with only a few members and the Flood collective might simply have expected them to succeed and not sent backup or attempted to re-establish contact, they could have been sent as a combat force in the first place and the collective could never have cared about setting up a permanent colony, or they could have come from some sort of derelict vessel that was on its way to the Milky Way and the collective has no clue that they were traveling in that direction whatsoever; the possibilities are, quite honestly, endless. That is part of the reason that this theory exists, the sheer open-ended nature of the Flood's creation an existence. Logic says that such a collective would almost certainly have to exist, but for example if small groups were sent out to each galaxy near their original and no collective was established and maintained there, the Flood in our galaxy might very well be the only real Flood threat we face.

Also, even though this is a shameless plug, if you're very interested in my view on Flood origins, I think this theory might provide some additional insight. Might also be a bit of a mindgasm.

  • 12.31.2009 12:22 AM PDT

♠NêX♠

My vexation is still here, as the Flood mindset is an all-consuming goal to (redundantly) consume all. If the Flood knew that there were Forerunner in the Milky Way, and knew they were Precursor, then the Tier-0 Gravemind isn't going to be watching threes company sending tiny Flood parties to conquer them.
Also, once the Gravemind had conquered his father, the Precursors, he would have nothing keeping him in that galaxy, as eliminating all of the Precursors would strip him of resources as effectively as would the firing of the Halo Array- he would be headed this way now.

Now that I think of it, the Flood's parasitic nature is all at once its greatest asset, and failure...
Once it succeeds in infecting and dominating all sentient life...what? It in effect just beheaded itself.
I suppose it is constantly doomed to failure.

In this case, it might be that the Tier-0 Gravemind realized this after he killed the last Precursor there, and, accepting his mistake and doom, took his strongest Flood forms, capable of surviving, and threw them into our galaxy in the hopes that they may survive where he failed, since they too have the race memory.

  • 12.31.2009 9:58 AM PDT
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Posted by: Sum Vestri NeX
My vexation is still here, as the Flood mindset is an all-consuming goal to (redundantly) consume all. If the Flood knew that there were Forerunner in the Milky Way, and knew they were Precursor, then the Tier-0 Gravemind isn't going to be watching threes company sending tiny Flood parties to conquer them.

Also, once the Gravemind had conquered his father, the Precursors, he would have nothing keeping him in that galaxy, as eliminating all of the Precursors would strip him of resources as effectively as would the firing of the Halo Array- he would be headed this way now.

Now that I think of it, the Flood's parasitic nature is all at once its greatest asset, and failure...
Once it succeeds in infecting and dominating all sentient life...what? It in effect just beheaded itself.
I suppose it is constantly doomed to failure.

In this case, it might be that the Tier-0 Gravemind realized this after he killed the last Precursor there, and, accepting his mistake and doom, took his strongest Flood forms, capable of surviving, and threw them into our galaxy in the hopes that they may survive where he failed, since they too have the race memory.

That unfortunate aspect of the Flood- its parasitic nature being its ultimate power and ultimate weakness -is part of what this theory strongly counts on. The idea is that the Flood consumed all life in their home galaxy and either sent a small attack party to the Milky Way to wipe out what they hoped would be a small Precursor remnant while focusing on infecting in other galaxies, or that they consumed all life in their home galaxy and spread out in all directions, taking an equal amount of Flood forms to each and every star cluster in reach, hoping to find and consume more life to begin the search again from that cluster.

  • 12.31.2009 10:08 AM PDT

Quite Amazing Snakie, I say.....Thread Saved. In the meantime, I'll look at this theory from time to time. And study it. And you have really good arguments. Maybe you should be a politician....

(:

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  • 12.31.2009 11:19 AM PDT

Dad gum Snakie you got yourself a gold mine right there. :-)

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Im sorry (for going off topic Snakie), but are you Jewish?

  • 01.05.2010 2:15 PM PDT

This was a very good theory, Snakie. I had considered, for a brief time, that The Flood were Precursor, but that theory just didn't sync well. Then, I moved on to considering if they were a creation of the Forerunners, but again, it didn't sync because it didn't explain the abscence of The Precursors (unless their galaxy exploded or something of that nature.). But the Gravemind having the traits of an AI does lend itself a great deal of merit.

The Flood of the Milky Way having less strength/ intelligence than the Flood of origin can be explained by the firing of the Halo arrays during the Forerunner/ Flood conflict. That means that all of the surviving Flood would have had a limited pool of knowledge to extract once a new Gravemind was to be created. The Flood during the time of the Forerunner/ Flood conflict would've had advanced, Tier-0 tactics, and perhaps technology with which to improve their biology, which is why they posed such a threat to them.

As for the Alpha Gravemind, I suppose that he could be long dead (not having food to consume) or, if alive, he could and should have attained meta-stability after all this time. Forgive me for surmising, but could he not be trying to atone for his past trasgressions as the AI Mendicant Bias had tried to do before the events of Halo CE? (I know he couldn't be Durandal, but he could be a benevolent entity by now.)

Anyways, good thread. I like theories that are actually theories and not just one-sentence proclamations.

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  • 01.08.2010 2:06 PM PDT
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As for the Alpha Gravemind, I suppose that he could be long dead (not having food to consume) or, if alive, he could and should have attained meta-stability after all this time. Forgive me for surmising, but could he not be trying to atone for his past trasgressions as the AI Mendicant Bias had tried to do before the events of Halo CE? (I know he couldn't be Durandal, but he could be a benevolent entity by now.)

Are we speaking of the same Gravemind, the one present in Halo 3? Because, if so, I fail to see how anyone could take his actions into account as atonement, much less benevolence. I'm not trying to say it's a stupid idea, because I think that he is on the road to meta-stability, I just don't quite see how his actions at the time of Halo 3 could be viewed as those of a fully meta-stable AI (or, in his case, EI).

  • 01.08.2010 3:11 PM PDT

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Firing of the Halo Arrays killing the Flood....

Since the rings only target sentient life, it leaves to question, and it seems that all theories hinge on the answer...
is each Flood form sentient? or part of a hive mind?
If the hive mind is correct, then the Gravemind would be the only affected Flood form. Then one must wonder if all or most other flood forms would die soon after the Gravemind's demise, such as a head being cut off of an organism. In the Terminals, when describing the battle between Mendicant Bias and Offensive Bias, said that after the arrays fired, the Forerunner and the Flood commanded ships drifted useless in space; I wonder if each Form is indeed sentient. Even in Halo: The Flood, it describes each infected humans' battle against the infection form within, and how it seemingly sifted through its mind like a careless archaeologist.

But then, if each soldier were sentient, the Flood would have been much more dangerous in ground engagements, without their only advantage being sheer numbers.

Hmmm..

  • 01.09.2010 3:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sizzle Monger
As for the Alpha Gravemind, I suppose that he could be long dead (not having food to consume) or, if alive, he could and should have attained meta-stability after all this time. Forgive me for surmising, but could he not be trying to atone for his past trasgressions as the AI Mendicant Bias had tried to do before the events of Halo CE? (I know he couldn't be Durandal, but he could be a benevolent entity by now.)

Are we speaking of the same Gravemind, the one present in Halo 3? Because, if so, I fail to see how anyone could take his actions into account as atonement, much less benevolence. I'm not trying to say it's a stupid idea, because I think that he is on the road to meta-stability, I just don't quite see how his actions at the time of Halo 3 could be viewed as those of a fully meta-stable AI (or, in his case, EI).

I'm not speaking of the Gravemind of Halo 3 as the Alpha Gravemind. What I'm proposing is, if there was a Gravemind that was meant to be an organic EI (for the Precursors), Halo 3 has assured us that the Gravemind is not omnipotent. In this case, when spores were sent to the Milky Way, another Gravemind would've had to have been created to give the "pioneer" spores a hive (I doubt the telepathic capacity of a single Gravemind could span intergalactically; it just doesn't seem logical; if that were the case, then the Gravemind of Halo 3 should have Tier-O knowledge). I'm speaking hypothetically. I'm sure (if there is an Alpha [Precursor] Gravemind) he would have died by the time of the events of Halo 3 (going off of what we know of the current weaknesses of The Flood). But if the Alpha Gravemind had access to Tier-0 tech and thinking, could he not have conceivably found a way to preserve himself? That's what I'm talking about. If the original Gravemind is still alive, could he not be in the atonement stage that Mendicant Bias ultimately reached? This kind of thinking would only pertain to a storyline which brought the MC upon this sector of the cosmos, but I think it would make for a pretty interesting oracle/ twist for him to learn new things from.

[Edited on 01.09.2010 4:26 PM PST]

  • 01.09.2010 4:22 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sum Vestri NeX
Firing of the Halo Arrays killing the Flood....

Since the rings only target sentient life, it leaves to question, and it seems that all theories hinge on the answer...
is each Flood form sentient? or part of a hive mind?
If the hive mind is correct, then the Gravemind would be the only affected Flood form. Then one must wonder if all or most other flood forms would die soon after the Gravemind's demise, such as a head being cut off of an organism. In the Terminals, when describing the battle between Mendicant Bias and Offensive Bias, said that after the arrays fired, the Forerunner and the Flood commanded ships drifted useless in space; I wonder if each Form is indeed sentient. Even in Halo: The Flood, it describes each infected humans' battle against the infection form within, and how it seemingly sifted through its mind like a careless archaeologist.

But then, if each soldier were sentient, the Flood would have been much more dangerous in ground engagements, without their only advantage being sheer numbers.

Hmmm..

A good thing to bring up, and I have a theory as to why the Flood cannot be killed by the array but they suddenly dropped off the map after it fired. Forgive me if this gets a tad technical, I have a thing for anatomy.


The Halo Encyclopedia, in one of its better descriptions, discusses how the Halo array kills. It tells us that the array focuses only upon sentient life by using harmonic frequencies to destroy nervous cells. The exact passage lies on page 170. It reads:

"When activated, they [the Halos] would wipe out any sentient life within three radii of the Milky Way Galaxy's center by sending out a harmonic frequency, targeting certain cells in the nervous systems of any sentient organism."
Now, with that said, there is a section on the Flood that brings up an interesting point about their biology (also located within the Encyclopedia). On page 152 at the bottom-left, it reads:

"Flood biomass is composed of an undifferentiated cell-type that is referred to as the Flood Super Cell (FSC), which can be described as approximating "thinking muscle." The FSC closely resembles neurons or glial cells in structure. The Flood can arrange these cells to mimic any organ it might need."
Now we know that the FSC is essentially an undifferentiated cell type that contains both the characteristics of glial cells (which essentially hold neurons together so they can function as part of a whole), neurons, and muscle (the most important). This basically means that any "pure" Flood form's FSCs functions as skin/connective tissue (glial), muscle, and neurostructure all at once. As glial cells are typically only found within the neurosystems of organisms, if the FSC contained only characteristics of glial cells and neurons this would not be quite so great a theory, but because they take on characteristics of muscle cells as well, it's much more likely.

Now, the harmonic frequency that kills focuses completely upon neurons (or glial cells, it doesn't quite specify) to kill all sentient life. The Flood do not possess strict neurons or strict glions, however, they possess neuro/glion/muscles in the form of the FSC. This means that the harmonic frequency sent out by the Halo array would likely not kill FSCs or strictly FSC-based organisms, because the frequency would not react with those Super-Cells that serve so many separate functions.

Now the question arises, why did those ships go dead? Easy. The Flood use Combat Forms as hosts to carry out more advanced functions (like, oh, operating a ship). While the Infection Forms within the Combat Forms are FSC-based, the Combat Forms themselves possess their original cell structure. This turns the Halo Array into more of a weapon against the Flood than originally suggested, because the Array would not only kill all sentient life that the Flood could possess, it would kill all sentient life that the Flood already had possessed as well, by destroying key cells within the host's neurological structures that the Flood needed to operate the body. When the array fired, it took out those Combat Forms that the Flood were using to operate the ships, and they went dead, making it easy for Offensive Bias to obliterate the fleet.

The only Flood forms that would have been able to survive something like that would have been strict FSC-based organisms, namely Infection Forms and Pure Forms. "What, no Gravemind!?" you ask? Here is the truly relevant portion of my theory: yes, no Gravemind. The Graveminds are composed of Combat Forms.

On page 157 of the Halo Encyclopedia, Brain Forms (Proto-Graveminds) are discussed. The overall passage is relatively useless, but one sentence is of great relevance:

"...the Proto-Gravemind is the product of the syntactical fusion of several Combat Forms, merging all of its subordinate forms into a massive, bloated, spherical organism..."
Now, if the Proto-Gravemind is constructed of Combat Forms (which we can assume is accurate based off of Captain Keyes' inclusion into a Brain Form in Halo: CE), it is safe to assume that the final Gravemind will also contain components of the Combat Forms used to create it during its Proto-Gravemind state. This means that the Gravemind will possess the same weaknesses of the Combat Forms and Carrier Forms: retaining neurological characteristics of the original host. The Encyclopedia seems to agree with this point, as it states on page 159:

"It appears that one [a Gravemind] existed over one hundred thousand years ago but was destroyed by the first firing of the Halo Array."
And there you have it, the reason why Combat Forms, Carrier Forms, and the Gravemind itself are destroyed by an Array firing.

[Edited on 05.16.2010 10:10 AM PDT]

  • 01.09.2010 5:50 PM PDT

Killing time, killng people

one of my theories could explain how the flood still retain some of the ancient memories but cannot gain full knowledge of ancient events.

there is a stage the flood achieves when it is the only life form in an entire galxy.
it slowly uses all the useful chemicals found in the galaxy(minerals,plants,animals,sentients, atmosphers, creates synthesiser forms-forms that are able to create flood biomass out of anything- and starts to produce large neural fibres linking every world to every other world in the neighboring systems, which are connecte to the nearby systems and so on. this proceeds until every planet has a resident gravemind linked by massive neurl fibres to other graveminds, forming a galaxy-brain. this is an omniescent being but is vunerable to attack by cutting the neural fibres. the reason that some memories are inaccessable is that some fibres were damaged byforerunners during the forerunner-flood war. this split off parts of the memories.

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if the flood garbage system(pre-sentience) consumed the precursors after attaining sentience, they would have gained the precursors knowledge which would have included things like molecular manipulation, organic synthesisation, extraction techniques. this is because the precursors had so much knowledge that the flood could use after consuming them.

the reason that the flood disposal/memory storage system was created is that the precursors knew that immortality would eventually become a curse. the precursors would experience so much through their lifetimes that eventually they would commit suicide as they were driven insane by the fact that their minds became full- all the old memories had filled up the mindspace causing the new memories to have nowhere to go and being lost. when the precursors commited suicde, as the flood obtained their experiences, they came a little closer to sentience, which the precursors did not notice as they were occupied with science, mathematics, art,etc, of incompehensible beauty and complexibility(when a precursor became an adult[very rare due to low birth rate caused by nearly immortal livespan] they chose an artform{science,maths,art...} and tried to make as pure an undertanding of it as possible). when the flood attained sentience, they were filled with an uncontrollable thirst for knowledge and decided to assimilate the entire precuror race. after they had acheived this, the formed the galaxybrain and launched spores towards the milky way wher they encountered the forerunners.
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after the first contact with the flood, the forerunners launched a fleet of ships towards the floods origin galaxy.
these lost contact after a battle when entering the flood galaxybrain. while the forerunners at the milky way were fending off the flood, the remaining assualt ships in the galaxybrain decided to sever as many of the connections as they could before being destroyed. this caused the knowledge contained there to be lost. this had the effect of causing the milky way flood to be less coherent due to the overall control brain being damaged. the forerunners managed to defeat the flood due to the brain being damaged.
the halo rings were then used to contain the flood for study as well as the last resort in case of being overwhelmed.the graveminds then formed only had the knolege contained in the galaxybrain at the moment they were formed. the later graveminds knew less as the brain gradually destabilised due to he damage done in the war taking proper effect. the last gravemind was the one fought by john 117 and cortana on the halo ring which had barely any of the original knoledge due to the galaxybrain having nearly completely destabilised due to age and damage spiralling out of control( all the wreckage form the countless battles that were launched towards it, as well as missed misiles and laser beams hitting neurons millenia after they were launched causing extra damage to the brain)

shortly after the last gravemind was destroyed, tha galaxyrain rippe itself apart, causing all of the precursors knowledg to be lost forever.

the reamining flood in th various installations were then stripped of any overriding sentience and reverted to an animalistic nature.

  • 01.13.2010 10:47 AM PDT
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Posted by: Infernalstorm97
Err.

There's no evidence at all for any sort of "galaxy brain", and I highly doubt that it's possible- the Flood's main source of material is calcium, not "anything and everything", and even if they used "anything and everything", spanning that much space would be nigh on impossible, if not outright impossible.

  • 01.13.2010 11:24 AM PDT