Halo 2 Forum
This topic has moved here: Subject: Why wasn't the AR in HALO2 anyway?
  • Subject: Why wasn't the AR in HALO2 anyway?
Subject: Why wasn't the AR in HALO2 anyway?
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

What's your obession with my profile recently?

Just wondering.

  • 05.30.2009 5:01 PM PDT

ya know i always wondered that myself.

  • 05.30.2009 5:08 PM PDT

--Dear Father, I've been waiting, I've saved you a seat in hell
--I live to see death, destruction, over the light, but the light cannot be extinguished...
A More Complete Compendium of a Bungie History
-Thanatos 117

Anyone you talked to that was a serious Halo player back then put the AR down for it's lack of accuracy and effectiveness. With the M6D Pistol so overpowered plus the scope, it made carrying around the AR a joke to most people. So Bungie listened and made a weapon that would be considered your primary weapon while still having a scope and the effectiveness the pistol had: the Battle Rifle. It was originally single shot too. They changed it to fire in burst to make it feel more like an effective rifle.

[Edited on 05.30.2009 6:37 PM PDT]

  • 05.30.2009 6:36 PM PDT

Suck it Red!

Posted by: Thanatos 117
Anyone you talked to that was a serious Halo player back then put the AR down for it's lack of accuracy and effectiveness. With the M6D Pistol so overpowered plus the scope, it made carrying around the AR a joke to most people. So Bungie listened and made a weapon that would be considered your primary weapon while still having a scope and the effectiveness the pistol had: the Battle Rifle. It was originally single shot too. They changed it to fire in burst to make it feel more like an effective rifle.


Didn't really matter since they just added the smg to Halo 2 anyway.

  • 05.30.2009 8:55 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

I can only please one person per day.

Today isn't your day.

Tomorrow isn't looking too good either.

Because Bungie thought the SMG would be an appropriate replacement.

But as they noted in one of their Halo 3 Vidocs, people simply stopped using melee and grenades, and the BR was overly powerful, so the AR returned in order to give an effective startng weapon that also encouraged the use of grenades and melee, and that wasn't so obscenely powerful that you didn't need anything else.

  • 05.30.2009 9:43 PM PDT

Glory and fame, blood is our name!
Souls full of thunder, hearts of steel!
Killers of men, a warrior's friend!
Sworn to avenge our fallen brothers!
Sons of the gods, today we shall die.
Open Valhalla's door!
Let the battle begin, with swords in the wind! Hail Gods of War!

They should've kept it with the BR. The AR is actually quite an Icon.

  • 06.01.2009 7:32 PM PDT

Beware the smiley face! =D

-Points at Halo Combat Evolved Cover-

It is the flagship gun of the game really.

  • 06.01.2009 11:16 PM PDT
  •  | 
  • Intrepid Legendary Member

Hello! I'm a male!

In my personal opinion the battle rifle is to powerful in them both, but hey this is the guy who's wondering why there isn't an auto sniper in a futuristic war game when there are auto snipers in the present day war games and in present day.

  • 06.03.2009 5:09 AM PDT

Posted by: PMR NYM
In my personal opinion the battle rifle is to powerful in them both, but hey this is the guy who's wondering why there isn't an auto sniper in a futuristic war game when there are auto snipers in the present day war games and in present day.


Ridiculously overpowered weapons =/= good gameplay.

  • 06.03.2009 2:19 PM PDT

I believe that you can be a fan of all shooters,
COD, Halo, Gears of War,
I am a fanboy of all three, by the way,
And all I want is MORE!
Click here!

I here they're going to make Halo 3: ODST feel more like Halo 1, with no dual wielding, heath packs - and from what I've seen, a pistol with a scope. No one really used dual wielding in Halo 3 anyways because the weapons got weaker but as much as 25%! And then there is the recoil! When they talk about the triangle of Halo Guns-Grenades-Melee if I can't grenade or melee, why should I pick up two weapons that are only slightly better than the AR?

[Edited on 06.04.2009 5:51 AM PDT]

  • 06.04.2009 5:51 AM PDT

This is actually the stupidest thing ever posted on B.net:

Posted by: the omega man117
Why does everyone hate Halo 2? Maybe its because its the worst game ever next to mario.

Posted by: siahsargus
I here they're going to make Halo 3: ODST feel more like Halo 1, with no dual wielding, heath packs - and from what I've seen, a pistol with a scope. No one really used dual wielding in Halo 3 anyways because the weapons got weaker but as much as 25%! And then there is the recoil! When they talk about the triangle of Halo Guns-Grenades-Melee if I can't grenade or melee, why should I pick up two weapons that are only slightly better than the AR?
I like this post.

  • 06.04.2009 7:04 PM PDT

The AR was one of the most despised weapon in Halo:CE, as it is weak compared to the pistol. Bungie created the battle rifle to replace the assault rifle as the main weapon, and created the SMG for those who still had love for the AR.

  • 06.04.2009 9:27 PM PDT
  • gamertag: [none]
  • user homepage:

(\__/)
(='.'=) This is Bunny. Copy and paste Bunny into your
(")_(") signature to help him gain world domination.

Posted by: Thanatos 117
Anyone you talked to that was a serious Halo player back then put the AR down for it's lack of accuracy and effectiveness. With the M6D Pistol so overpowered plus the scope, it made carrying around the AR a joke to most people. So Bungie listened and made a weapon that would be considered your primary weapon while still having a scope and the effectiveness the pistol had: the Battle Rifle. It was originally single shot too. They changed it to fire in burst to make it feel more like an effective rifle.
damn, your smart. haha

  • 06.04.2009 10:20 PM PDT

Machinima.com Director and for Realm
http://www.youtube.com/user/HemisphereCinema

Active Gamertag : iNocturne

i think it's beacues it have not come to earth yet or something.

  • 06.05.2009 6:43 AM PDT
  •  | 
  • Exalted Legendary Member

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/halo-rifle-pistol4.htm

"...in Halo 1 we had the assault rifle which was just a bullet hose and the pistol which was very accurate and did lots of damage in head shots. Around the office everybody uses the pistol because, especially in single player, it's really easy to kill the little grunt guys, and it's much more accurate in multiplayer.

"Then we, you know, unleashed [Halo:CE] on the world and everybody wanted to use the assault rifle because everybody wanted to use the big, powerful looking, you know, powerful sounding gun. So while we intended most people to use the pistol a lot and use the assault rifle sometimes, it ended up people played all the way through with the assault rifle.

"When we looked at what we wanted to do with the weapons in Halo 2, the first thing that we wanted to do was we wanted to make it so that the pistol was a lot more appealing to people. So we made it (the pistol) into the powerful looking battle rifle. Then we wanted to make the assault rifle more into a support weapon that people would use sometimes in the right situations when they need a bullet hose. We made that (the assault rifle) into the SMG. So really, the Halo 1 assault rifle and the Halo 1 pistol, we just used the exact same tags and data. We just changed the models and the sound, so people would want to use the one that we wanted them to use more... we literally just changed the models on the old tags."


The AR in Halo 2 is the SMG and the pistol became the BR because too many people basically equated the size of the weapon to mean it was more powerful.

  • 06.08.2009 9:47 AM PDT