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Subject: S-259?

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Posted by: Lord Snakie
Posted by: Bazuka T
Spartan 2 - 059 is Malcolm

He said "259", not Spartan-II, 059. Spartans don't use their "II" designation when sounding off, it's just not done. And 259 isn't a canonical number.

I'm not sure, to be honest. I've been mapping inconsistencies since I fist saw the trailer, and I still can't make a definitive heads or tails of it. Only time will tell.


Actually, apparently there is a spartan 259 named bruce. It's not really mentioned anywhere in halo but is known among those who have been here for quite a while Check it here.

It's weird and unknown to me, but apparently he exists.

Edit: Sorry, corrected the link.

[Edited on 06.01.2009 8:10 PM PDT]

  • 06.01.2009 8:08 PM PDT
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Sounds like Spartan-458

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Nicole-458



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Posted by: DK daze
Dude I don't care and my grammer is perfect.I used "Big", as you recall it to mak is specific."to not do...",is incorrect beause "do" is present tense/perfect(or future) when it was a past tense.

Posted by: Bazuka T
Posted by: DeathPenalty16
Posted by: Bazuka T
Spartan 2 - 059 is Malcolm



I don't know, maybe...
But why would he said "..259", why not "059"


.....And then I remember why I hate the kids on Bungie.net forums

Sierra 2 = Spartan 2 then add your 59

There you have Spartan 2 - 59 and with it Malcolm
Then explain 320. I highly doubt there were any spartan 3's at reach.

  • 06.01.2009 8:15 PM PDT
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Sierra 259, eh? Joe's been hiding that Halo Bible from us for far too long. Me thinks it's about time they reveal a bit more for us, no?

Then again, when they answer one or two questions, they always leave more questions in their wake...

  • 06.02.2009 10:50 AM PDT
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anyone take into consideration that the call signs in the trailer may not pertain to Spartans? possibly ships or marines or squadrons, etc.? just a thought.

  • 06.02.2009 10:58 AM PDT
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ye im wiv guy above me its not a spartan because there was only 150 spartans and you know wot the there was only 75 spartans cos 75 werent picked

  • 06.02.2009 11:08 AM PDT

i have figured it out

nicole was sent to the past and ended up in dead or alive.

then these spartans must have been created and sent back in time to try to stop the fall of reach or possibly save some important official and take said official to future

now stopping reach would stop the enevitable peace via human eltie awesomeness

now the only people who would try to save reach would be those trying to obtain dr halsely and if they were racist against elites


the only solution
the spartan II program reinitated in the futrure around the same tim as timetravel was discovered, this discovery allowed them to sain blac ops squads back to the past to make events more favorable.


theory 2
like most militaries wouldnt they say they have less tanks or f-22s than they actually have. also when you think if they had extra spartans wouldn't they talk about em? secret weapon

also if you say that it is impossible to afford them then consider this
the covenant are killing everything i believe that the price would be ignored and they would just take the resources and begin making more spartans.

i mean they had to do something with those 75 other candidates and any other possible candidates they might find.

  • 06.02.2009 11:14 AM PDT
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haha I'm not saying it's definitely not a Spartan, I'm just saying it could be something else.

  • 06.02.2009 11:18 AM PDT
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he said spartans are on the ground that means that it was a spartan talking ive never heard of a marine use numbers

  • 06.02.2009 11:20 AM PDT
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Ok it's not Malcom. If you play Halo 3 they never refer to MC as Sierra 2-117, it's just Sierra-117. It is 259, maybe these are new spartans that mendez trained after John's class graduated. I am just guessing here but from the looks of the pic above it seems like it may be the same type of game as ODST. Where you play one character and then switch to another later on. I know I am going to get flamed for this next comment but I read a very interesting thread on b.net about how there could be an alternate dimension after the chief got separated from arbiter at the end of halo going through that rupture in time/space. So maybe he can save reach now and maybe this explains why spark always acted like he had seen Master Chief. Not saying this is the gospel but just humor the idea

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gonnago complete nerd here
if the spartans were tlking then b4 they even started tlking they wud of used the safety code
oly oly oxeplenty

  • 06.02.2009 11:24 AM PDT
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spark was crazy tho and called anything alive the reclamer

  • 06.02.2009 11:25 AM PDT
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and here is the point that just owns the fac its not malcolm if he sed spartans on ground then its notn him he dies on the crash landing
DUH!!

  • 06.02.2009 11:27 AM PDT

Believe

Posted by: Lord Snakie
Posted by: Bazuka T
Spartan 2 - 059 is Malcolm

He said "259", not Spartan-II, 059. Spartans don't use their "II" designation when sounding off, it's just not done. And 259 isn't a canonical number.

I'm not sure, to be honest. I've been mapping inconsistencies since I fist saw the trailer, and I still can't make a definitive heads or tails of it. Only time will tell.


let him believe what he wants to believe. and to be honest, i believe him cause it makes more sense.

  • 06.02.2009 11:29 AM PDT

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Posted by: Lord Snakie
Posted by: Bazuka T
Spartan 2 - 059 is Malcolm

He said "259", not Spartan-II, 059. Spartans don't use their "II" designation when sounding off, it's just not done. And 259 isn't a canonical number.

I'm not sure, to be honest. I've been mapping inconsistencies since I fist saw the trailer, and I still can't make a definitive heads or tails of it. Only time will tell.


On top of that, Malcom died when Fred and his team jumped out of the Pelican.

  • 06.02.2009 11:32 AM PDT
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thats exactly what i said

  • 06.02.2009 11:37 AM PDT

I think I would go for the SPARTAN III. Spartans normally work in squads of three, maybe plus or minus one, so having 5 Spartans in a team is a little too many. Also there's Spartan IIIs since 2536, and the fall of Reach happen in 2552, therefore having them in this game is plausible.

In 2552, Spantan IIs are all wearing Mark V armours and none of the people in the picture is wearing them. They are much more lightly armour, just like the characteristics of Spartan III.

  • 06.02.2009 11:51 AM PDT

-You look like you could suck a golf ball through a waterhose.

There was 2 classes of spartan-II's. The first class is the ones everyone knows and loves, the second class was a new group that died during the Fall of Reach. The reason it goes above 150 is because they didn't want to duplicate numbers if they were to fight together.

  • 06.02.2009 11:56 AM PDT

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Posted by: ngaiman
I think I would go for the SPARTAN III. Spartans normally work in squads of three, maybe plus or minus one, so having 5 Spartans in a team is a little too many. Also there's Spartan IIIs since 2536, and the fall of Reach happen in 2552, therefore having them in this game is plausible.

In 2552, Spantan IIs are all wearing Mark V armours and none of the people in the picture is wearing them. They are much more lightly armour, just like the characteristics of Spartan III.


The Spartan III's numbers start with a letter just like a service tag on Halo 3.

  • 06.02.2009 11:58 AM PDT

Dues absconditus

This is all Simple, Spartan 259, is most likley a member of Spartan II Class II. Most probably in training at the time of the Attack on Reach. (Post Augmentation). He is most probably being sent in since no one else can respond.

Class II
Some children were conscripted into the Spartan program after the original IIs graduated. They were planned originally to begin conscription and training in 2525 -right after the graduation of Class I- but were postponed. This was due to dr. Halsey's wish to further research into the augmentation process in hopes of Class II graduating with a larger survival rate.
(Thanks to HaloPedia)


Possible Supporting Statement
* Nicole - 458, Meaning that after the Orginal Class I composing of 150 Spartans, Atleast 308 new possible Spartans are deemed feasible.
* The statement someone made about the Picture above having Light Armored Troops. could be explained as the Spartans having a lack of MJOLNIR Armor to go around, or the sudden call, forrcing them to make due with any armor present, like ODST or Marine Armor.



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my thought

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  • 06.02.2009 12:32 PM PDT
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There were 150 Spartans Chosen. There 300 chosen from. They used the number for when they were choosing. That means any number from 1 to 300 can happen, but they can have only 150 of those numbers.

  • 06.02.2009 12:41 PM PDT

Doesn't explain 320. Also, another idea, seeing as we don't know how long the Spartan III's were being prepared for and such- although their designations are typically alpha-numeric, I believe the letter may just refer to their company (alpha/bravo/charlie, A/B/C), in which case if only one company was present, they would probably forgo the letter when using a call sign. No guarantee's, and I read Onyx so long ago I could be completely wrong about the company thing. And the timeline could be wrong, but I really don't know.

(My two cents)

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Nobody ever said the spartan program stopped at 3. I think the whole sierra 2 - 059 theory is bogus though. But then again I don't know about this but if I'm correct I think reach was glassed before the spartan 3 project, I'll have to check the books for dates but if it was glassed before the spartan 3's I might go along with one of two things: the things reporting in weren't spartan or there is some major part of the storyline I'm missing in my head. Time to pull out the halo books and my reading glasses.

  • 06.02.2009 1:37 PM PDT

It's hard to say what the first Sierra number was. But yes, just because there were 150 doesn't mean that's what their number went up too. I thought I remember more than 300 candidates for the project seeing as they were picked from 3-5 years of age. the Spartan-III project didn't start till after or around Halo 2. Can't remember the year from the book.

  • 06.02.2009 1:52 PM PDT