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Posted by: Bazuka T
Spartan 2 - 059 is Malcolm

Wow ty i'm so glad you told everyone.

  • 06.16.2009 2:56 PM PDT

Yayap

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this is what i thought as well but ackerson apparently couldnt shut it down quite before there was recruitment.

and if not it could be a trainer with the same phonetic designation


From Halopedia:
After the Spartan-IIs graduated, Mendez was slated to train the next class of Spartan-IIs, but the program was delayed indefinitely by Dr. Halsey due to issues with viable candidates.


Yes the Spartan III's were delayed by Dr. Halsey but Col. Akerson(forgot how to spell it) started them up again by kidnapping kurt and its was on the DL and only ONI knew about it. So as far as Halsey knew ( until onyx ) they were never being done.

  • 06.16.2009 3:03 PM PDT

Posted by: matt05891
Posted by: The BS Police
Posted by: jace gamer
this is what i thought as well but ackerson apparently couldnt shut it down quite before there was recruitment.

and if not it could be a trainer with the same phonetic designation


From Halopedia:
After the Spartan-IIs graduated, Mendez was slated to train the next class of Spartan-IIs, but the program was delayed indefinitely by Dr. Halsey due to issues with viable candidates.


Yes the Spartan III's were delayed by Dr. Halsey but Col. Akerson(forgot how to spell it) started them up again by kidnapping kurt and its was on the DL and only ONI knew about it. So as far as Halsey knew ( until onyx ) they were never being done.

Spartan-II, Class II's are not the same as Spartan III's. They are an entirely different project.

Spartan 259 is neither Malcolm-059, nor a Spartan-III because they don't identify themselves as such. We have no idea how big the selection pool of candidates was. They then limited that down to 150 which had personal screening by Captain Keyes and Dr. Halsey then that was cut into 75. Of that 75, only 30 some odd kids became Spartans, all (most likely) retaining their original candidate number. We don't know about half of the Spartan's names, which leaves open a big gap for numbers.

  • 06.16.2009 3:14 PM PDT

Yayap

Alright lol, I always just figured they were spartan III's thanks :

  • 06.16.2009 3:18 PM PDT

Andre

To back this person up... There were only 150 possible candidates for the Spartan-II project. Those who failed the observation test by Dr. Halsey most likely were not conscripted. Their service tag most likely in order of which they were viewed by Dr. Halsey.

  • 06.16.2009 3:31 PM PDT

They are Class II Spartans.
Basically the second batch of Spartan-II's.

  • 06.16.2009 3:37 PM PDT

Posted by: Chicken K499
They are Class II Spartans.
Basically the second batch of Spartan-II's.

There was never a second class of S-II's.

  • 06.16.2009 3:39 PM PDT
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it doese'nt look nextgen , looks good but not nextgen
If by next-gen you mean crappy, dark and colorless, I agree. It doesnt look next-gen at all.

Posted by: azliand
There was never a second class of S-II's.


Dont fight it, sooner or later you will realize that these people have no common sense and talking to them or talking to a wall is the same thing.

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There could be a 2nd round of spartan 2s. There is no evidence against this and wasn't mendez supposed to be training them?

  • 06.18.2009 3:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: Bazuka T
Spartan 2 - 059 is Malcolm

They NEVER identified themselves that way, and anyway Malcolm died on impact during the jump to Reach.

  • 06.18.2009 3:32 PM PDT

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Anyone who says it's Malcolm is stupid. He never made it groundside. Well, I guess technically he did. But then he didn't make a whole lot more.

  • 06.18.2009 3:38 PM PDT

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Anyone who says it's Malcolm is stupid. He never made it groundside. Well, I guess technically he did. But then he didn't make a whole lot more.

He made a mess, but thats it.

  • 06.18.2009 3:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: azliand

Spartan-II, Class II's are not the same as Spartan III's. They are an entirely different project.

Spartan 259 is neither Malcolm-059, nor a Spartan-III because they don't identify themselves as such. We have no idea how big the selection pool of candidates was. They then limited that down to 150 which had personal screening by Captain Keyes and Dr. Halsey then that was cut into 75. Of that 75, only 30 some odd kids became Spartans, all (most likely) retaining their original candidate number. We don't know about half of the Spartan's names, which leaves open a big gap for numbers.



This is exactly right.... for all we know, there could be a Spartan 493, meaning that this spartan was number 493 on Hasley's candidate list, passed the training program and was healthy after the augmentations.

  • 06.18.2009 4:04 PM PDT

Ok, really guys. Who said that the numbers have to be in order. There could be 150 spartans, but there could be spartan 493 (like one dude said), as to confuse the enemy into thinking there are more Spartans. So it could be from the original 150, or it could be a 2nd batch... There are lots of possibilities.

  • 06.18.2009 4:09 PM PDT

Were it so easy

Well I've just recently read the Fall of Reach again, and the video doesn't seem to correspond at all with the book... so it probably doesn't correspond with the other books too, so there could be more than 150 spartans. Maybe the writers of the books just made fictional stories. Maybe they never happened. That would be total BS but you never know. We'll just have to wait to see what Bungie throws out there next.

  • 06.19.2009 1:17 PM PDT

Were it so easy

Oh, also, it said CI320, not S-320. It's probably not a Spartan talking.

  • 06.19.2009 1:24 PM PDT

they came as GODs and left as people

i know sparten 259 is from the ship spirit of fire developed bye serrena (she had lots of time doing nothing on a floating ship)


and what's number 1 ?

  • 06.22.2009 9:02 AM PDT

w00t, 117th reply, well, according to halopedia, those spartans mentiond is another generation of spartan-IIs that John didn't lead, as they were younger and trained after the original spartan IIs, not to be confused with the spartan IIs from ghosts of onyx

  • 06.22.2009 9:12 AM PDT

they came as GODs and left as people

it's incorrect what you say when a sparten needs to identify himself. look at the ending from halo 2 MC doesn't say his suite number

  • 06.22.2009 9:20 AM PDT
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Posted by: Bazuka T
Spartan 2 - 059 is Malcolm
Malcom Died! He died on impact of Reach's ground after bailing out of the Pelican! It is the second wave of Spartan-IIs Halsey delayed because of the augmentation process was very dangerous and needed to be improved.

  • 06.22.2009 9:42 AM PDT
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Posted by: Bending Potato
Anyone who says it's Malcolm is stupid. He never made it groundside. Well, I guess technically he did. But then he didn't make a whole lot more.

He made a mess, but thats it.

  • 06.22.2009 9:44 AM PDT

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On open radio channels, when calling out their call sign, a soldier always uses phonetics for letters, saying C I over the radio could be misinterpreted into a billion things. If the WANTED to say CI they would have said, "this is Charlie India three two zero" not "C I". If you listen the lady said Sierra.

Okay, according to the official storyline given by the Halo books written by Eric Nylund, There never was a Spartan II designation higher than 150. There were 150 candidates in the initial pool, and only funding for 75. There were 45 surviving Spartan II's after the augmentation: 12 were crippled (remember Fhajad?), 33 had no complications. Their numbers did not go above 150. Period. The End.

However, if Bungie wants to create a second wave of Spartan II's even though they go against everything we know about Halo, that's their thing. The only other reference I remember to a Spartan above designation 150 besides the Spartan III's, which have been discussed already, was the cameo appearance as a character in Dead or Alive 4 I believe. That's where Spartan 493 comes in. But regardless, that Spartan was trained and commissioned after the Covenant-Human conflict (circa 2525-2554). I really need Bungie to give some information about this...

  • 06.22.2009 10:03 AM PDT

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was it not that only 150 spartan II survived because if thats true then it could be candidate 259 like 117 or 059 couldbe the number at which they were selected for the spartan project

  • 06.22.2009 12:33 PM PDT

Posted by: Rebuker92
Okay, according to the official storyline given by the Halo books written by Eric Nylund, There never was a Spartan II designation higher than 150. There were 150 candidates in the initial pool, and only funding for 75. There were 45 surviving Spartan II's after the augmentation: 12 were crippled (remember Fhajad?), 33 had no complications. Their numbers did not go above 150. Period. The End. .


Where does it state there is no designation higher than 150?


Doesn't state anything about those candidates being the first pool in fact it infers that the 150 were the few that passed the first gauntlet, the genetic tests. The UNSC surely would've filed away those "partial matches" for safe keeping most likely carrying a "candidate tag". Before they found the golden150

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  • 06.30.2009 4:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: Rebuker92
Okay, according to the official storyline given by the Halo books written by Eric Nylund, There never was a Spartan II designation higher than 150. There were 150 candidates in the initial pool, and only funding for 75. There were 45 surviving Spartan II's after the augmentation: 12 were crippled (remember Fhajad?), 33 had no complications. Their numbers did not go above 150. Period. The End. .


Where does it state there is no designation higher than 150?


Doesn't state anything about those candidates being the first pool in fact it infers that the 150 were the few that passed the first gauntlet, the genetic tests. The UNSC surely would've filed away those "partial matches" for safe keeping most likely carrying a "candidate tag". Before they found the golden150


Well, I also think that Spartan 259 is from the second batch of S-IIs, and their designations only go up to 150 or below because they were numbered from 1-150 based on the original 150 candidates for the original Spartan-II project.

  • 06.30.2009 4:05 PM PDT