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Subject: Halo: Reach - Not Prologue?

Memento mori.

Now I know this may be a bit of a stretch, but after reading some mixed opinions of how the trailer's information is supposed to be incorrect with the lore of halo-perhaps this doesn't take place on Reach before the halo trilogy at all. My idea is

1) The silhouette on the left does look a lot like an elite
2) The comm traffic in the trailer seems a HELLUVA a lot surprised at 'them' attacking whatever the planet is.
3) Halo wiki-Spartan II's Class II? We've not heard a single thing about them at all, until now witht this trailer popping up. But this is all speculation, seeing how it's the Halo Wiki...
4) Lack of Covvie ships - There is explosions going on on the surface of the planet, and no signs of glassing... In fact, the only signs of anything hostile was a destroyed ship as the camera pans over to the dark side of the planet. Maybe not even covenant at all?

At the same time, that trailer got me really excited for this. So maybe we're overanalyzing it? I dunno.

*UPDATE* - Since when is Saturn behind Reach? Maybe it's a different planet, I suppose, but that planet in the background sure looks like Saturn.

[Edited on 06.01.2009 5:43 PM PDT]

  • 06.01.2009 5:36 PM PDT

And that explosion, I don't remember the Covenant having any weapon like that before.

  • 06.01.2009 5:37 PM PDT

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Posted by: b00m_headshot
They didn't tell us what it was it could have been anything. Frankie gets scared easy incase you didn't know.

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You do know that humanity had no idea they were about to be attacked by the Covenant on Reach, right?

  • 06.01.2009 5:37 PM PDT

There's covie ships in the picture smart one. Look closely

  • 06.01.2009 5:38 PM PDT
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It has to be a prologue as the covenant glassed the entire planet except for the small little area know as "Castle Base". This is said in First Strike when the chief returns to reach.

  • 06.01.2009 5:39 PM PDT

Yeah, those explosions reminded me of the end of Terminator 3, you could see the explosions from orbit!

[/shipmaster quote]

  • 06.01.2009 5:40 PM PDT

Memento mori.

I know they were surprised by Covenant on Reach, i've read the books, but there was fighting going on before the Covvies started glassing the planet... So unless the comm traffic guys were real dunces, then I think that it might not even be reach.

And there were Covvie ships in the trailer? I guess i'm the dunce... I'll watch it again, haha

  • 06.01.2009 5:40 PM PDT

yes usually most people dont know that they are being attacked

if i remeber properlly the spartan designations did not go as high as 252 or whatever was in the trailer. my guess is that this has to do with the next batch of spartans being the Gamma or beta or whatever one they are on now. thats why im think that this is like the second battle for reach because there are some plot inconsisntces in the trail to whats in the first book

first of all the covenant did not jump inside the UNSC defensive line and bypass it. they jumped well outside of it because they did not have the info on how to do that from cortana on the acendant justice and were given a stiff beting by the fleet first

second no spartan designation was as high as 252

and third looking at the sillotetes on the top of the page im saying this also has to do with the elites since the big one looks like an elite.

also WHO IS NOVA 1 or whoever they were trying t find

the only thing that could throw this off is that there was some one saying that wew would hold them off as long as possible and thats the same thing that another spatan said at reach

this is just my guess at it guys not fact

  • 06.01.2009 5:40 PM PDT

They're not in the trailer. They're right behind the 5 people in the pic. And there's a girl spartan 3something too in the trailer.

  • 06.01.2009 5:43 PM PDT

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Well it is a prologue so ya lol

[Edited on 06.01.2009 5:44 PM PDT]

  • 06.01.2009 5:44 PM PDT

how do you know?

  • 06.01.2009 5:44 PM PDT

Memento mori.

I don't think those are covenant ships behind them in the pic... Looks more like shady bits in the planet. I dunno, guess its all guessing from here until Bungie teases us with more info. I mean, not like thats happening anytime soon... With this coming out in 2010 and all, haha.

  • 06.01.2009 5:45 PM PDT

Posted by: GammaSpartan003
I don't think those are covenant ships behind them in the pic... Looks more like shady bits in the planet. I dunno, guess its all guessing from here until Bungie teases us with more info. I mean, not like thats happening anytime soon... With this coming out in 2010 and all, haha.


Dude, look at the bigger pic. There's plasma bolts shooting out of them.

  • 06.01.2009 5:47 PM PDT

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Ok lets clear the air here. Everything that happend on Reach was before Halo CE. Trying to pick apart the trailer may not be a good idea. For all we know this could just be a hype trailer to get everyone talking about the game.

  • 06.01.2009 5:48 PM PDT

Posted by: italian templar
Ok lets clear the air here. Everything that happend on Reach was before Halo CE. Trying to pick apart the trailer may not be a good idea. For all we know this could just be a hype trailer to get everyone talking about the game.


Well it's working exceptionally well.

  • 06.01.2009 5:49 PM PDT

no they dont look like them. they move too fast. they look more like bombs

im still saying this is not a prequel

  • 06.01.2009 5:49 PM PDT

Posted by: italian templar
Ok lets clear the air here. Everything that happend on Reach was before Halo CE. Trying to pick apart the trailer may not be a good idea. For all we know this could just be a hype trailer to get everyone talking about the game.


We don't know that. It may be a sequel. Even if it was hype, they wouldn't just throw out random SPARTAN numbers, Bungie's just too meticulous for that.

  • 06.01.2009 5:50 PM PDT

Memento mori.

Yeah, you're probably right. Cus I don't know what else Reach would mean, other than the planet. Still syched for this though!

  • 06.01.2009 5:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: Tanks60808
im still saying this is not a prequel


It opens with

"From the beginning you know the end"

It's called Halo - Reach.

There is only one planet reach under human control in the halo universe.

Reach was almost entirely glassed after the events leading up to Halo: CE and the planet in the trailer is certainly not glassed... yet.

Use a little common sense. It's a prequel, dude.

  • 06.01.2009 5:54 PM PDT

What? you looked. Not my fault

Those explosions could also be from the covenant blowing up the power generators to the orbital defense platforms

  • 06.01.2009 5:55 PM PDT

could just be a crypicic message could mean nothing.

it could be the second battle for reach

it doesnt mean they couldnt of had rebuilt the planet

  • 06.01.2009 5:55 PM PDT

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If you look at the main "Halo: REACH" picture at the top of this forum you can clearly see covenant cruisers with their plasma beams glassing the planet. The enemy IS the covenant

  • 06.01.2009 5:57 PM PDT

Posted by: Tanks60808
yes usually most people dont know that they are being attacked

if i remeber properlly the spartan designations did not go as high as 252 or whatever was in the trailer. my guess is that this has to do with the next batch of spartans being the Gamma or beta or whatever one they are on now. thats why im think that this is like the second battle for reach because there are some plot inconsisntces in the trail to whats in the first book

first of all the covenant did not jump inside the UNSC defensive line and bypass it. they jumped well outside of it because they did not have the info on how to do that from cortana on the acendant justice and were given a stiff beting by the fleet first

second no spartan designation was as high as 252

and third looking at the sillotetes on the top of the page im saying this also has to do with the elites since the big one looks like an elite.

also WHO IS NOVA 1 or whoever they were trying t find

the only thing that could throw this off is that there was some one saying that wew would hold them off as long as possible and thats the same thing that another spatan said at reach

this is just my guess at it guys not fact
Yes, there were 150 children who possess rare genetic markers making them suitable for conscription into the SPARTAN-II program and like 75 of them died. So yeah it does not goes up to 252.

  • 06.01.2009 5:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: fist of Rukt
If you look at the main "Halo: REACH" picture at the top of this forum you can clearly see covenant cruisers with their plasma beams glassing the planet. The enemy IS the covenant


Rebuilt the planet? After it was glassed. During a war that is pushing humanity closer and closer towards earth. I don't think so.

I will make one concession; Halo 3: Recon was just a working title.. for all we really know this could be a working title as well... for all we know were looking at Halo: ONYX...

But again, with the opening of the trailer, i stand firmly by the idea that this is a game based on the events during the battle of reach.

  • 06.01.2009 6:01 PM PDT