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Subject: -Theory- Operation: WHITE GLOVE
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I believe that the Spartans in Halo: Reach will be:

Frederic - 104
Kelly - 087
Isaac - 039
Vinh - 030
William - 043

In the trailer we hear someone say, "We're coming in hot, hold on" and later, "We just lost our bird" this seems to coincide with a part from the book First Strike, where Fred and Kelly, among others, are forced to jump out of their pelican that was taking them to the surface of Reach.

follows Red Team as they ride a Pelican down to the surface, but are forced to make a supersonic hard landing to the ground after the pilot gets hit by plasma fire from Seraph Fighters. The impact killed four of the Spartans and leaves many more seriously injured. Most lost their weapons and ammunition, Fred-104 and Kelly-087 improvise using rocks until they were able to police Covenant weapons from a group of Jackals they had killed.
Source: http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_First_Strike#Section_0:_Reac h


Later, we hear a marine at 0:39 saying "What the hell was that?" shortly after a blast is seen on the surface of the planet. Then at 0:43 we hear another asking "What the hell is happening down there?" shortly followed by another saying, "There's still people down here."

The point I'm trying to get at is, if the blasts we are seeing are indeed covenant glassing the planet, why do we have marines asking these questions, why would a marine tell the covenant, "There's still people down here"? Exactly, they wouldn't.

My theory is that what we are seeing on at least PART of the planet is Operation: WHITE GLOVE.
This could partially explain some of the voices we are hearing over the COMM. I must admit that I am ignoring completely the voices of Spartan 259 and 320, but I think this at least provides a possible explanation for at least some of the things happening.

So why do I think we will be playing as or at least with Fred, Kelly, Isaac, William, and Vinh?
Mainly because this would help support "From the beginning, You know the end.". From the beginning we know Reach will be glassed. But what else do we know? Well, From the beginning we know that Kelly, Fred, Dr.Halsey and others are rescued from Reach by Master Chief.(Source: http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_First_Strike#Section_3:_Resc ue I read somewhere that Microsoft or Bungie said we haven't seen the last of Chief,(couldn't find a source for this) so maybe this is where we see him once more.

Something else i thought I would add is towards the end of the trailer we hear a voice inquiring to the location of "Nova 1", the only thing I was able to come up with regarding this was a reference to a "planet-killer" type bomb which can be read about here: http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/NOVA. I admit it is not likely to be related to who or what Nova 1 really is, but I thought it was interesting at the least.


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[Edited on 06.01.2009 8:53 PM PDT]

  • 06.01.2009 8:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: InToXiCaTi0n
Something else i thought I would add is towards the end of the trailer we hear a voice inquiring to the location of "Nova 1"


I'm pretty sure they said Noble One.

  • 06.01.2009 9:04 PM PDT
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I admit it is not likely to be related to who or what Nova 1 really is, but I thought it was interesting at the least.

You're probably right, either way I thought the bomb was cool.

  • 06.01.2009 9:07 PM PDT
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Wow, nice find. I'll add a link to your thread in my Speculation thread! The comments from those in the teaser do make sense with the events you describe.

  • 06.01.2009 9:14 PM PDT

Thanks for joggin' my memory. I just remembered that there was a huge platoon of marines that called in multiple airstrikes on the covenant... but they killed them all before the shortswords reached them. The bobmers accidently bombed their own men (5 survived i think, and they met up with the spartans to secure the generator for the super macs.) thus explaining "There are still people down here!!!". i hope this is right...

  • 06.01.2009 9:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: StUnNeR H2K
Wow, nice find. I'll add a link to your thread in my Speculation thread! The comments from those in the teaser do make sense with the events you describe.


Thanks, I appreciate it.

Also, X3202, what you said sounds very reasonable, I remember reading that part of the book myself. Nice find.

  • 06.01.2009 9:22 PM PDT

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Your theory seems to add up, the voices don't sound like they know what's going on, especially the "What the hell is going on!" quote, so the spartans may have just been introduced into the planet.

  • 06.01.2009 9:27 PM PDT

4/30- Never forget!!!!! Reach Beta "Friends and families" code fail.

i think this "There's still people down here." was said when they launched an airstrike on a friendly battalion thinkng the covnant were gunna use that forest to flank them idk but i remember something like that from the book idk i could b wrong

  • 06.01.2009 9:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: dilinator
i think this "There's still people down here." was said when they launched an airstrike on a friendly battalion thinkng the covnant were gunna use that forest to flank them idk but i remember something like that from the book idk i could b wrong


It's very likely that's whats happening, I just happened to take a different view point and tie in Operation: White Glove, either one could possibly fit in if looked at in the right way. After all its just a theory, not fact. :)

  • 06.01.2009 9:37 PM PDT

i have to give you props on that i got my book back out and thats what i was thinkin you just went into way greater detail. people are just freakin out about the spartan 259 and that there are no numbers that go that high

  • 06.01.2009 9:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: J Shark3
i have to give you props on that i got my book back out and thats what i was thinkin you just went into way greater detail. people are just freakin out about the spartan 259 and that there are no numbers that go that high


Yeah I personally think we will either play as Fred's squad, or as the new spartans we hear in the trailer and act as a kind of support team for Fred's group.

  • 06.01.2009 10:12 PM PDT