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Subject: No Elites, please!
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I am so happy that Bungie quit listening to everything the forum kids say.
If Bungie wants Elites in Halo Reach, there will be Elites in MP, if not then not.

Their won't be all maps from any previous Halo Game in any Halo Game that will come.
Their will be remakes/spiritual successors of some maps that were featured in previous halo games.

Just discuss here as much as you want to, Bungie will show you how the game will be, no matter what you say, bungie will make h:r the way they want to, not the way you want them to.

This Forum ruined Halo 3, because of what they complained about after the beta, let's hope you kids won't ruin Halo: Reach after it's beta.

[Edited on 06.02.2009 10:29 AM PDT]

  • 06.02.2009 10:28 AM PDT
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Elites R Cool ? :D

  • 06.02.2009 10:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: Darklord of Sin
wow.. Player model does not affect multiplayer one bit. I use both player models. and it is up to Bungie what they use or not.

And no, you will not see Halo 3 maps on Reach.. You want halo 3 maps.. play Halo 3. problem solved.


This entire post is incorrect. Why? I'll tell you why. The only thing correct is that Bungie decides what they want to use and what they dont want to use.

Elites have the same sized hitboxes but they appear in different spots. They also have a neck hole in Halo 3 that allows bullets and grenades to pass through their body. Fair? No. Bullets shouldn't pass through the body.

As for maps, Halo 3 may be Halo 3 and offer a certain selection of maps, as did Halo CE and Halo 2. However, multiplayer maps, when designed out properly (look at some of Valve's work and commentary with Team Fortress 2) need to be built for replayability.

When you look at the statistics for games, certain maps are played over and over and over again and others are ignored. With Halo 2, it became quite clear that Lockout was the clear standout as polls during the time found it to be the most popular. I believe Bungie did a statistics release on Halo 2 and found it was the most popular.

People, when Halo 3 launched without it, said "Go play Halo 2 if you love it so much." Well, obviously Lockout was a perfect play design. So, it should be ported. Maps, when they are damn near perfect, should be integrated into the new game instead of risking gameplay on a new map. It becomes the desire of people to experience their favorite old map with the new features. With Halo 3 those would be: New Armor Perms, new weapons, forge, saved films, pictures, the fileshare system, a better custom game creator, etc.

Bungie should mimic Valve and build a smaller handful of maps that live up to replayability instead of focusing on new maps that get tossed aside. Take the previous maps that lived up to replayability and reconstruct them in the new game, keeping them as near as possible to the original in terms of gameplay and shape/size, and then allow those to fill the void of additional maps.

Basically, create new maps that stand up to replayability but keep that number small and use old maps that did live up to replayability and have them fill the void of the additional maps needed to ship.

[Edited on 06.02.2009 10:34 AM PDT]

  • 06.02.2009 10:33 AM PDT

Oh, man, I read the title of your topic and thought you meant you didn't want to fight elites in the campaign. That would have been a disaster, seeing as the majority of what MC fought on Reach was Elites.

Anyways, whats wrong with elites? It provides more diversity in multiplayer. Its not really an advantage for them if you have the option of being an elite too you know.

  • 06.02.2009 10:37 AM PDT
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At the Pre Halo 2 Era: Bring Elites to Multiplayeeeeer!!!
In the Halo 2 Era: Take out Elites from multiplayeeer!!!
In the Pre Halo 3 Era: Put brutes as playable models in Multiplayeeeer!!!
In the Halo 3 Era: Take out Elites from multiplayeeer!! Bring Brutes to multiplayeeer!!!

Supposed scenario in future games: Take out Elites and Brutes from multiplayeeeer!!!

Dude, what's up with the community?

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Posted by: Naqser
At the Pre Halo 2 Era: Bring Elites to Multiplayeeeeer!!!
In the Halo 2 Era: Take out Elites from multiplayeeer!!!
In the Pre Halo 3 Era: Put brutes as playable models in Multiplayeeeer!!!
In the Halo 3 Era: Take out Elites from multiplayeeer!! Bring Brutes to multiplayeeer!!!

Supposed scenario in future games: Take out Elites and Brutes from multiplayeeeer!!!

Dude, what's up with the community?



This Sir, is the truth. People will always take the slightest opportunity to moan about something whic is, in the large scheme of things, insignificant.

  • 06.02.2009 11:56 AM PDT

Ahhh! can't believe they took it out of the dictionary ....and NO I'm not coming out of my shell untill you get that THING off my avatar

I just hope they dont put those brutes in. Brutes are nto in the book. Also, it would be nice to see the egineer species which is mentioned in both the Eric Nylund book and the booklet that came with the special edition Halo 3.

  • 06.02.2009 12:31 PM PDT

Posted by: Darklord of Sin
wow.. Player model does not affect multiplayer one bit. I use both player models. and it is up to Bungie what they use or not.

And no, you will not see Halo 3 maps on Reach.. You want halo 3 maps.. play Halo 3. problem solved.


I agree 100%
No matter how good Reach is, I will always come back to Halo 3.
And Elites are amazing. I'd be really sad if they took them out.

  • 06.02.2009 12:40 PM PDT

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Prepare to be dissappointed, then. Though, I'm not one of them, enough people like to play as Elites that they're no doubt going to return. Also, if it's a full new title then you aren't technically going to get any of the Halo 3 maps. They'll no doubt have remakes of some popular maps, but as with each full new title, most will be new.

Personally, I don't think those are problems at all.

  • 06.02.2009 12:48 PM PDT
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You sound like some austrian/german ive heard of...

ELITE POWAHH!!! :P

  • 06.02.2009 12:50 PM PDT

Posted by: I ReaveR 01
And whats wrong with the elites?


if theres no elites in multiplayer im going to be pissed

[Edited on 06.02.2009 12:53 PM PDT]

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Halo: Reach looks good! Oh and they put NEW content for ur icons and backrounds for ur profile.

  • 06.02.2009 12:51 PM PDT

Scroll up a bit and look at that nice halo: reach banner. Wait..,what's that silhouette on the left?

Guess it sucks to be you op.


  • 06.02.2009 1:33 PM PDT

Posted by: Wolve E Returns
"I even have trouble playing gruntpicklelips because of this.It reminds me XBLS uno "

ODST will have its own seperate multiplayer, Bungie has stated that there will be no ODST vs. Spartan, that means there will be no Elites either, Reach could possibly have the same deal goin on.

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  • 06.02.2009 1:42 PM PDT

Posted by: PWNT M3 PL0X
ODST will have its own seperate multiplayer, Bungie has stated that there will be no ODST vs. Spartan, that means there will be no Elites either.

That is nice and all but this is not the halo:ODST forum. So... why are you talking about halo:odst?

  • 06.02.2009 1:44 PM PDT

Posted by: INCINERATION
Actually, I believe elites should not be in the multiplayer. The Humans and Elites were not allies during that time so it wouldn't make too much sense if they were to fight amongst each other in Multipayer. But it also doesn't make much sense that Spartans are in war. Oh well. We shall see.


well well well... where to start with this...
IF you want to go this in depth with the multiplayer AS TO RELATE IT TO HALO 2, remember, in halo 3 elites fight WITH the humans VS the flood.
also, IF you want to go this in depth, there should be ONE spartan in the game, with the rest as ODSTs, because isnt there only one spartan left? the MC


another thing everyone needs to understand, no matter what you say, elites will NOT be removed from multiplayer. Bungie is a cooperation, and looks at statistics. The statistics would say they would piss off more people by removing them then not removing them.

[Edited on 06.11.2009 3:22 PM PDT]

  • 06.11.2009 3:19 PM PDT
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Bungie will never get rid of Elites, because believe it or not, some kids love to play as them

  • 06.11.2009 3:21 PM PDT
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I'm so happy we get to kill Elites again, Brutes are so boring.

  • 06.11.2009 3:21 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Posted by: T3h Blu Bomber
What is wrong with Elites? Some people say that they are better but I really don't think it matters, if you keep losing to Elites maybe you just suck.

If they are such an advantage then why don't you just use them too?

  • 06.11.2009 3:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: BadBall3r47
Wort! Wort! Wort!

You just can't take out Elites.

I agree.(nice usage of the origonal elite line.)

  • 06.11.2009 3:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: Mythikos
Do you imply disdain for a challenge? You surely would prefer the Unggoy alone as your foe in battle. Outrageous cries of fascist content ring out into the night. These silly Humans don't realize the honor We bestow upon them... simply by gracing them with our very presence!

i agree, they do not realize or reconize honor.

  • 06.11.2009 3:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: IXI M4SNA IXI
I couldn't agree more. Elites seriously ruin multiplayer. PLEASE Bungie, leave them out for once.
Thats a load of -blam!-. Elites don't ruin multiplayer two separate character models with two separate hitboxes ruins multiplayer. I like Elites but Bungie is going to have to get rid of one of them and it won't be the Spartans.

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