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Subject: Protest the $60 Price for ODST

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Posted by: dan91bauer
Posted by: RighteousTyrant


So you then have to ask yourself, are the new campaign, Firefight mode, Reach beta access, and Mythic 2 worth the $60? And that's a question that only you can answer, and only for yourself.


They're not worth $60 bucks. Considering that the campaign is not a full-length typical Halo campaign...and the firefight mode is merely a MODE...and Reach beta access (how can that cost money in the first place?) and then the rest of the Mythic maps..which are 10 bucks at most. This should be a $40 game at the most.
I guess my background as an accountant has me seeing things differently. If you pay for a package and part of that package has value to you, then how can you not see it as having been a part of what you paid for? I don't see good reasoning to throw the Reach beta out of consideration. Hell, at least this time, you get a good game with the beta, unlike Halo 3's.

As far as Firefight goes, I bet people get more hours of enjoyment from that than the campaign itself -- which is not to say anything about the length of the campaign.

  • 06.02.2009 9:55 AM PDT
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exactly, picture an ODST Helmet right next to your Spartan Helmet.... sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

  • 06.02.2009 9:55 AM PDT

Posted by: xianoa
Posted by: dan91bauer
Posted by: RighteousTyrant


So you then have to ask yourself, are the new campaign, Firefight mode, Reach beta access, and Mythic 2 worth the $60? And that's a question that only you can answer, and only for yourself.


They're not worth $60 bucks. Considering that the campaign is not a full-length typical Halo campaign...and the firefight mode is merely a MODE...and Reach beta access (how can that cost money in the first place?) and then the rest of the Mythic maps..which are 10 bucks at most. This should be a $40 game at the most.
chill out, all you ever do is negativity. if you have till fall to raise $60, by no means a hard task. if you dont want to pay it by principle, then wait till its cheaper. no one is forcing you to buy it at $60.


It's called consumerism...and consumers have a right to protest the price of products. I don't understand why people are so blind to this deal.

  • 06.02.2009 9:56 AM PDT
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Posted by: dan91bauer
We're paying TWICE for H3 multiplayer guys...comon.
so? i reiterate my point; you dont have to buy it. its not a need, its a want.

[edit] im not blind, you dont understand that a lot of people still down have all the dlc. you know, the people who dont play online (still a huge market). if you dont like the price, dont buy it. you wont rally enough support to boycott the product 'cause too many will buy it anyway.

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Posted by: dan91bauer
You guys that say don't buy it...have you or have you not bought the three map packs already?

Do you understand that by buying ODST you're paying twice for maps you already own?
Remember when they put out the H2 Disk with all of the DLC maps on it for 30 bucks? Then eventually rolled it into a BungleBundle, H1,H2, and H2 DLC?


Some people haven't bought the maps.
Some people don't give a rats ass if they're paying for them again.

The new campaign is worth it.



I remember the awesome BR thread you had, in all it's glory
but for some reason these threads of yours are getting, well, Annoying. All you ever do is complain. If you don't like it, then don't buy it.

The real question is; Why are you still using the forums if you hate bungie so much? Jeez.

Edit-
800 MS points for new maps.
There will be 3 new maps on the disk.

40 buck campaign.
800 MS points worth of maps.
Beta Token
Halo 3 MP all on one disk.


i honestly can say it's worth it.
I mean hell, my H3 disk is starting to wear out. This is perfect timing for me. Instead of having to buy the same game just for the MP, i can buy a new game with the same MP and an awesome tastic new campaign.

And btw, you can't say that this campaign "isn't what Halo campaigns should be"
You haven't even played it yet :)

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  • 06.02.2009 9:57 AM PDT

Well, I'll pay and here is how I figure it.

10 for the 3 new maps
10 for the beta (Hell I bought Crackdown 90% for the H3 Beta)
40 for "Expansion"

To me, it is worth it. To some it might not be and it is totally your choice to boycott the purchase.

  • 06.02.2009 9:57 AM PDT

I wish Bungie would have stuck to what they had said before and made this less than $60 dollars, because from what I remember the campaign is pretty short.

  • 06.02.2009 9:59 AM PDT
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Posted by: Jay120171
Well, I'll pay and here is how I figure it.

10 for the 3 new maps
10 for the beta (Hell I bought Crackdown 90% for the H3 Beta)
40 for "Expansion"

To me, it is worth it. To some it might not be and it is totally your choice to boycott the purchase.
makes many sense to me cawzin. especially point 2. crackdown ended up being a good game but i onlly found out cause i wanted beta.

  • 06.02.2009 9:59 AM PDT

Posted by: RighteousTyrant
They're not worth $60 bucks. Considering that the campaign is not a full-length typical Halo campaign...and the firefight mode is merely a MODE...and Reach beta access (how can that cost money in the first place?) and then the rest of the Mythic maps..which are 10 bucks at most. This should be a $40 game at the most.[/quote]I guess my background as an accountant has me seeing things differently. If you pay for a package and part of that package has value to you, then how can you not see it as having been a part of what you paid for? I don't see good reasoning to throw the Reach beta out of consideration. Hell, at least this time, you get a good game with the beta, unlike Halo 3's.

As far as Firefight goes, I bet people get more hours of enjoyment from that than the campaign itself -- which is not to say anything about the length of the campaign.


There should be a separate package deal that has ODST campaign, firefight mode, remaining mythic maps, and the beta key to Reach. I don't need to be buying all three DLCs over again, plus re-buying H3 multiplayer. What is the point in that for someone who already owns H3?

For non-H3 owners, this is a great deal for 60 bucks, but for those who currently own H3...it's robbery.

  • 06.02.2009 9:59 AM PDT

Why don't we just share the hill?

get a job

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Posted by: dmg04
...The real question is; Why are you still using the forums if you hate bungie so much? Jeez.
as i previously said, full of negativity.

  • 06.02.2009 10:00 AM PDT

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Then don't buy it. While I'm a bit bummed it is a full price title, I have to say the price is pretty well justified.
Campaign expansion could be valued at $20
Survival mode add on could be another $10
Three completely new maps would be the price of a regular map pack, $10
Reach MP Beta code easily $10, though many paid $60 to buy a game for the H3 beta

So even with all the maps, I see an easy $50 value. So I can't complain about the price too much. To those who haven't purchased DLC up to this point, it's kind of a steal, I think.

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a robbery? ok im out, this is clearly a troll.

[edit] if the maps are on the disc, remember you can install these on as many consoles as you like. ergo youre not paying for the maps again, rather the rights to install them on what ever console (much like the halo 2 multiplayer map pack disc allowed me to include waaaay more fun at LAN with the new maps)

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  • 06.02.2009 10:01 AM PDT

Posted by: dmg04
Posted by: dan91bauer
You guys that say don't buy it...have you or have you not bought the three map packs already?

Do you understand that by buying ODST you're paying twice for maps you already own?
Remember when they put out the H2 Disk with all of the DLC maps on it for 30 bucks? Then eventually rolled it into a BungleBundle, H1,H2, and H2 DLC?


Some people haven't bought the maps.
Some people don't give a rats ass if they're paying for them again.

The new campaign is worth it.



I remember the awesome BR thread you had, in all it's glory
but for some reason these threads of yours are getting, well, Annoying. All you ever do is complain. If you don't like it, then don't buy it.

The real question is; Why are you still using the forums if you hate bungie so much? Jeez.

Edit-
800 MS points for new maps.
There will be 3 new maps on the disk.

40 buck campaign.
800 MS points worth of maps.
Beta Token
Halo 3 MP all on one disk.


i honestly can say it's worth it.
I mean hell, my H3 disk is starting to wear out. This is perfect timing for me. Instead of having to buy the same game just for the MP, i can buy a new game with the same MP and an awesome tastic new campaign.

And btw, you can't say that this campaign "isn't what Halo campaigns should be"
You haven't even played it yet :)


This isn't a utopia dude. Deal with criticism, or don't read. As a consumer, we all have rights to our opinions whether they're negative or positive about a product. I have a negative opinion toward this product, especially when there's only two choice: 60 bucks or 100 bucks...why not make a cheaper package for those who already own H3?

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Yes you have a right to protest the price & voice your opinion. I also agree w/ the accountants post regarding finding inherent value in a product/service. Let me say this, I have Gears of War2 & IMO the best playlist is HORDE!!! Co-op teamwork, I just cannot get enough of this. I'm superstoked. All of the goodness of HALO3 in a (survival/horde mode) FIREFIGHT will breath new life into Halo3 multiplayer & give me something to do until 2010> HALO: REACH!

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I agree and I'm gonna wait until the price comes down.

  • 06.02.2009 10:04 AM PDT

bungie has already stated that they would push for a lesser price because its not a true stand alone game. this pricing from gamestop is because they think adding some stuff jacks up the price. just buy it somewhere else

  • 06.02.2009 10:06 AM PDT

Posted by: Obi Wan Stevobi
Then don't buy it. While I'm a bit bummed it is a full price title, I have to say the price is pretty well justified.
Campaign expansion could be valued at $20
Survival mode add on could be another $10
Three completely new maps would be the price of a regular map pack, $10
Reach MP Beta code easily $10, though many paid $60 to buy a game for the H3 beta

So even with all the maps, I see an easy $50 value. So I can't complain about the price too much. To those who haven't purchased DLC up to this point, it's kind of a steal, I think.


You honestly think a single coop game mode which is nothing more than a Slayer, King of the hill, etc...type game mode...is worth 10 bucks?

This is my final suggestion:

I would like to see a ODST deal for $39.99 with the following:

ODST Campaign
Firefight Mode
remaining Mythic maps
Reach Beta Key

That's it. Seal it up, charge 40 bucks and I'm sold.

I do not like that in order to enjoy ODST...I'm forced to spend 60 bucks for things I already own. I own all three DLCs, and I own Halo 3 multiplayer.

I don't understand how my point is coming across crystal clear. It's like a while back when LOTR Return of the King came out and they re-released the movie with an extra 15 mins ending...and charged more than full price for the movie. Now for all the fans out there, they bought it because they reallllly wanted that extra 15 mins...but they basically just re-bought the movie all over again. Now that's not to say that they should have released a stand alone LOTR movie with just 15 mins of footage, but I'm just using it as a comparison here.

  • 06.02.2009 10:06 AM PDT

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It goes pretty much against all my B.Net being to do this, but I'm with Dan Bauer on this one.

The beta shouldn't be a factor in the price. It's likely they'll give invites out in addition, but that's speculation. In any case, we're doing them a favor by playing it. In return, we get to play the beta version of the game. No money should exchange hands in any beta testing, IMO, and it's how beta testing has been done since the idea was conceived.

If we're talking perceived value and we can't take the multiplayer or any of the other features (Forge, Theater) into account for the price or any of the other features we've already paid for, all we have left is a 4- to 5-hour campaign (as confirmed by Bungie in an update), an extra game mode, and 3 maps.

I'd go with $40. The campaign is essentially half a game. The maps would cost $10 on their own.

The worst part about this is anyone willing to catch up on Halo 3 will have to buy both games, meaning, yes, they'll pay for a big chunk of this game twice.

Yeah, I'm a little upset about it. And once again, I'll buy ODST, but I sure as Hell am going to limit my Microsoft purchases more than I already am.

Sorry, Work Place brethren. I just can't agree with this pricing based on MY perceived value. And I'll put my B.Net rep, for what it's worth, in the I-don't-like-this bucket.

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Posted by: dan91bauer
This isn't a utopia dude. Deal with criticism, or don't read. As a consumer, we all have rights to our opinions whether they're negative or positive about a product. I have a negative opinion toward this product, especially when there's only two choice: 60 bucks or 100 bucks...why not make a cheaper package for those who already own H3?


You're absolutely right! We have rights to throw out our opinions.
My opinion is that whoever cries over the price tag to the point of saying 'Protest!' is being a baby. I'm sorry, but that's my personal opinion!

As for the cheaper package, It's a cool idea. but why would they go to the trouble of having 2 different disks, one with Campaign/Firefight, and one with Campaign/Firefight/H3MP/BetaToken?

Just seems pointless to me.

And with the 100 buck pricetag, it makes sense. 60$$ controller, 40$$ game.

  • 06.02.2009 10:08 AM PDT

Posted by: xianoa
a robbery? ok im out, this is clearly a troll.

[edit] if the maps are on the disc, remember you can install these on as many consoles as you like. ergo youre not paying for the maps again, rather the rights to install them on what ever console (much like the halo 2 multiplayer map pack disc allowed me to include waaaay more fun at LAN with the new maps)


How much did that Killtac map disc cost??? 20 bucks I believe, and it was just those maps, and an update for the game. They didn't go say, here's Halo 2 multiplayer/campaign, plus the new maps and charge 60 bucks.

All I'm asking for is a deal where I don't need to re-buy what I already own. Get that?

  • 06.02.2009 10:08 AM PDT

Posted by: dmg04


And with the 100 buck pricetag, it makes sense. 60$$ controller, 40$$ game.


The game isn't $40 bucks though if you just buy the game...

It's as if MSFT wants people to spend 100 bucks because you're getting a better deal that way rather than spending just 60 and getting no controller. I know this is a business strategy, but it's a pretty weak one, and it's taking advantage of people.

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Posted by: dan91bauer
You guys that say don't buy it...have you or have you not bought the three map packs already?

Do you understand that by buying ODST you're paying twice for maps you already own?


So what?? Still going to buy and still going to love it. Thought people would be so mad over having just been told that H3's life is now limited to 2010 when Reach comes and everyone goes over to play that.

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Posted by: pac_sun_girl
I agree with Cobra and Der.

I'm only mildly irritated at the cost, and then only because it had been put out that it would not cost as much as a full game - since it is an expansion.

I am not surprised at this turn of events.

- Der

And I'll need two copies!!! So I get to pay for it all 3x!!!!!!!

[Edited on 06.02.2009 10:14 AM PDT]

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Although it is 60$, i think it will be worth it. Bungie spent a year at least creating a new campaign, developing the beta for Halo Reach, and creating new maps.

  • 06.02.2009 10:14 AM PDT