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Subject: Bungie Weekly Update - July 16
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You know, Gabe and Tycho like Halo, its just the forum members.

  • 07.16.2004 8:40 PM PDT
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You...you guys..are..talking about the..the update itself?
Not posting crap like "heeyy guess what..stop making threads."??

Wow. That was some major BS over at those PA forums huh?
I have a feeling that they are currently down because Gabe and Tycho are about to whoop some pompous ass! Frankie's reply to thier collective response was classic... BTW, check out my reply to those whiny, limp-wristed little pustules(I'm Chief420)

Anywho, yeah, I think that there might be some hints at bots in this update...and less and less CENSORED stuff, which is always good.

  • 07.16.2004 9:05 PM PDT
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What page is your reply on?

  • 07.16.2004 9:12 PM PDT
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Bottom of page 5

  • 07.16.2004 9:18 PM PDT
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Thanks.

  • 07.16.2004 9:19 PM PDT
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Ha, that's hilarious (you have homoerotic dreams about Frankie....Coincidence, I'm sure...j/k..). I don't see what they were so upset about, and if you read another thread about this on this forum, you'll see a full explanation about my response to this blasphemous banning of Frankie.

[Edited on 7/16/2004 9:22:39 PM]

  • 07.16.2004 9:22 PM PDT
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Some of the guys at PA can be real asshats.

Real big asshats.

[I <3 Frankie's Last Response.]

  • 07.17.2004 12:02 AM PDT
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"ME SMASH EVERYONE AT PA!!!!!!!!!!!"


(Bungies super secret "Halobot", remember bungie wants to control the world right, well they gotta start somewhere, robots seem like a good start to me)

  • 07.17.2004 1:21 AM PDT
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Posted by: BungieOtaku
[I <3 Frankie's Last Response.]


So did I.

  • 07.17.2004 7:34 AM PDT
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This is now really offtopic....

but..., I was thinking that the "huge new vehicle" might be "not huge" it could just be huge in terms of it's a very important vehicle or it took a long long time to finish

  • 07.17.2004 7:47 AM PDT
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Posted by: Sketch_
Posted by: Blaze97
Posted by: Cpl Roe
We just got CENSORED working and it's da bomb! No wait, that's a different game. But this game is going to be damn damn fun, especially for people with just a single box and no Xbox Live, but a bus load of controllers and lots of willing, friendly, yet competitive friends. And to think, we almost cut it!

Could this mean bots?


Might be. Somewhere else in the update it said something about people with no Live and only 3-4 controllers will have a ton of fun playing this gametype. It also said something Master Chief AI that let you shoot it. It looks like Bots might be in Halo 2 after all. Woohoo!


Sure as hell sounds like Bots to me....I'm also real curious what the "huge new vehicle" is


Hey maybe he's exaggerating. Maybe the "Huge New Vehicle" isd actually just the popemobile the prophets use. Or an RC car. Or MAYBE, he's not exaggerating, and it's a gigantic mobile battle cruiser. Freakin Sweet.

  • 07.17.2004 8:30 AM PDT
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Posted by: gifty

More importantly, that looks like confirmation of 4-player split-screen. AFAIK this has not been verified before. What would make it really sweet is if you could take 4-players/box on live. I wouldn't get your hopes up about bots just yet. There is such a thing as meeting real people and having LAN parties. It's a hell of a lot more fun.

I wonder what the final tally of multiplayer maps will be. Hopefully it's a hell of a lot more than 13. If not, then there NEEDS to be downloadable content.


HOW DARE YOU BREAK THE RULES!!! (No stupid abbreviations!!)
For those of you who panicked, it's "As far as I know". Thanks.

  • 07.17.2004 8:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: Almstask8r515
Posted by: Sneke
Their a bunch of yo yo's


what???


I don't know where you live, but in the Midwest this is a term meaning they're crazy, messed up, mentally unstable, etc...Basically used for any mental disability.

  • 07.17.2004 8:39 AM PDT
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should i spam alot on pa

tell me

  • 07.17.2004 9:05 AM PDT
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the battle creek-hang em high thing- maybe it's like battle creek externally, two bases close to one anothr, with rocks for cover and cool sniper posts, but inside the base is like hang em high.

  • 07.17.2004 9:11 AM PDT
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Posted by: Jager

... Jaime mocked up a fake multiplayer game with some Master Chief AI that just stands around and lets you shoot it – so I spent about half an hour exploring some new physics in-depth.


On the BOT ideas, I think this update verifies almost without a doubt that bots don't exist. Bungie is very close to a finished Halo 2. There is no reason that one guy would "whip up" real quick a poor AI if they had bots under development. AI for MP is not something that is halfa$$ed.


I see your point, but consider this: bots are already (or near) done, and he just took out some of the "smarts" of the AI? Also judging from his wording, it doesn't seem like a Master Chief that is not controlled by a person is the new, temperary thing - it's just the dumb AI that is.

From a programming point of view, it seems much harder to add non-controllable characters into multi-player then it would be to adjust their level of action. If a un-moving Master Chief was wanted, why not just play spilt screen, and let the other controller sit? This would have the same effect.

Unless of course, spilt-screen is not working properly at the moment, but you'd think it would be for the beta test.
Just my two cents worth.

  • 07.17.2004 12:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: Jager

... Jaime mocked up a fake multiplayer game with some Master Chief AI that just stands around and lets you shoot it – so I spent about half an hour exploring some new physics in-depth.


On the BOT ideas, I think this update verifies almost without a doubt that bots don't exist. Bungie is very close to a finished Halo 2. There is no reason that one guy would "whip up" real quick a poor AI if they had bots under development. AI for MP is not something that is halfa$$ed.


I see your point, but consider this: bots are already (or near) done, and he just took out some of the "smarts" of the AI? Also judging from his wording, it doesn't seem like a Master Chief that is not controlled by a person is the new, temperary thing - it's just the dumb AI that is.

From a programming point of view, it seems much harder to add non-controllable characters into multi-player then it would be to adjust their level of action. If a un-moving Master Chief was wanted, why not just play spilt screen, and let the other controller sit? This would have the same effect.

Unless of course, spilt-screen is not working properly at the moment, but you'd think it would be for the beta test.
Just my two cents worth.


that's exactly what I was thinking. Bungie has already made the capabilities for bots in multiplayer and having a "shell" of a bot is proof that there will be bots.

  • 07.17.2004 5:30 PM PDT

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I go around the world leaving a path of destruction in my wake. When I come to a city, grown men cry and women wail. I collect the skulls of my enemies and display them for all to see.........I also kick puppies. For fun.

Yeah, PA forums = crap, but anyway maybe the game for the non LIVE users could be like a target game where about 100 random targets are spread out through a map and you try to get the most. It sounds fun to me, but its not likely.

  • 07.17.2004 7:28 PM PDT
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that website is -blam!- you had to make your own file but ne ways the weekly update doesn't work anymore if u click on it so im really pissed off right now cause im really anxious to see but i can't :(!!!!!!!!!.....plz moderator or someone fix this stuff ( click on it and it won't work)

  • 07.18.2004 12:59 PM PDT
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StrongBad1 and noodlemcfoodle, i appreciate your (more positive) ideas on the bot "situation." That's an interesting way of looking at it (i myself thought it odd to go through the trouble of "mocking" up AI for physics testing when a mere AFK player would serve just fine). I hopeyou're right! Frankly, what suprises me most is that Frankie would even mention something like that in an update. Surely he and Bungie knows the explosiveness of the community with the mere suggestion of bots. Do they really want to be mentioning it (if it doesn't exist). I'd like it quietly die and carefully word everything I say to never suggest their mere possible existence. Unless of course they really (will) exist. In which case they are getting us catiously excited only to blow away our expectations with the announcement of bots. If that's not what they're doing I'd say they are setting up a very large letdown. Here's to hoping.

  • 07.18.2004 1:55 PM PDT
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Can someone please post it here, the site requires registration payment.

  • 07.18.2004 1:57 PM PDT
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Also thought I should mention Gabe's response to the event. Its front page (very bottom) of the www.penny-arcade.com site.

Quoted from his site shamelessly:

Bungie decided to make their most recent Halo 2 update in our forum. They are all really nice guys and had they told me of their intentions I would have begged them to reconsider. They post these updates in forums all the time but I don’t think they really understood just how bad ours is. The only reason it still exists is because at some point someone in there will blow up a nursing home full of senior citizens and the FBI will want a history of their online activities. It’s really just a big pile of evidence that we’ll hand over to the authorities the second they stop posting pictures of their asses and start killing people.

-Gabe out


(sorry to get off topic from the update. Go back to work.)

  • 07.18.2004 1:57 PM PDT
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Can someone please post it here, the site requires registration payment.

Idiot, check the first page.

[Edited on 7/18/2004 3:13:15 PM]

  • 07.18.2004 3:12 PM PDT
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ok, well this sucks waaay too much, i go to penny arcade and click on the update, and guess what? "this topic or forum you have requested does not exist"
NOOOOO!! can someone..like, do something?

  • 07.18.2004 4:10 PM PDT

That happened to me too! Help!

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