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Subject: SPECULATION: 2 planets are NOT the same!

Armor Lock isn't overpowered. You just suck at Reach :)

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*WARNING: SPOILERS AND WALL O TEXT*

Ok, lets just sit and think for a second here....

Legendary ending of Halo 3 shows Masterchief accompanied by Cortana, floating in space on half of a UNSC frigate, "Dawn". Afterwards, it shows the half ship floating to an unknown planet with strange lights gleaming from its surface. Some people have speculated that the planet is Onyx, or has to do with Marathon. Even though I dont belive either one of those, I am not concentrating on those theories.

However, I am here to talk about a recent theory that continues to pop up countless time on this forum so far.

Reach. The brand new, never before seen trailer shows a planet that, in some degree, has the same lighting effects that ANY OTHER PLANET WOULD HAVE with the sun. It shows a FULLY INTACT frigate floating above, and explosions errupting on its surface. No bright lights, but obvious planetary surfaces.

Lets first look at the timeline of the 2. Halo 3 takes place slightly after the events of Halo 2. (which, without the books, takes place awhile after Halo 1) Halo: Reach on the other hand, takes place slightly before Halo 1, when the Pillar of Autumn was still there, along with other spartans (possibly including the earlier Masterchief)

Well, I see Halo: Reach as a game (duno about RPG, FPS, RTS yet. I hope FPS) that takes place during the time before Halo 1, and gives us Bungies way of how the battle of Reach went down, all the way to when the planet is GLASSED. I can see Masterchief making a reappearance, but maybe with other spartans as well.

Now what I have read over and over, is others are speculating that the planet at the end of Halo 3 is Reach. Most of those speculations involve time travel. I will hit this the most. Think: Not only would it be a stupid idea for MC to travel back in time, but would not make sense since Reach was GLASSED. Not only does bungie not enjoy the idea of time travel, but the thought of the futuristic Masterchief popping up and saving the day at Reach, is just stupid. It would pretty much kill off the whole story of Halos 1,2,and 3.

Yes, portals can be unexpected, but the sheer thought of him traveling through time is completly unreasonable. Halo: Reach should be centered around you being able to take place in the battle of Reach, not running around in Mark VI armor killing everything in sight, screwing up the whole story of Halo.

Opinions are opinions, but sometimes they require a bit of common sense, and sometimes facts. Think before putting together a theory that may sound cool, but would be logically impossible. Halo: Reach is going to be something new to us, so lets get off the idea of Reach being that 'legendary planet' and think of other things that may actually make sense. I myself, am not that good with pointing out facts and proof, but I do try to show some common sense and see that time travel through a destablized portal is highly doubtful, in bungies favor. Another place, probably. Another time...not really.

/rant
/equips flameproof suit

[Edited on 06.02.2009 9:25 PM PDT]

  • 06.02.2009 8:50 PM PDT
Subject: Speculation: 2 planets are NOT the same

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Agreed. Plus we would know if there were 2 Master Chiefs.

  • 06.02.2009 8:53 PM PDT

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I agree with you 90% as I believe the artifact from the Legendary ending is in fact from Marathon.

But you did overlook one thing, Chief never went down to the surface of Reach. So far as I remember his only combat actions that day were boarding Gamma Station. Also, the thing I already stated about SPARTAN II class twos is pretty significant.

Nice to know that there is some shred of canonical knowledge here.

  • 06.02.2009 8:55 PM PDT

Armor Lock isn't overpowered. You just suck at Reach :)

Reach isn't bad, you're just a BK :)

For my gamertag, look up "Ghoulishtie"

Posted by: Jsten419
I agree with you 90% as I believe the artifact from the Legendary ending is in fact from Marathon.

But you did overlook one thing, Chief never went down to the surface of Reach. So far as I remember his only combat actions that day were boarding Gamma Station. Also, the thing I already stated about SPARTAN II class twos is pretty significant.

Nice to know that there is some shred of canonical knowledge here.



I never fully read the book about the battle of Reach, which is why I never said he was ON Reach. Thankyou for pointing that out though.

  • 06.02.2009 8:57 PM PDT

Master chief was on reach, but not for very long. It was in First Strike.

I wasn't very specific before...

[Edited on 06.02.2009 8:59 PM PDT]

  • 06.02.2009 8:58 PM PDT

Armor Lock isn't overpowered. You just suck at Reach :)

Reach isn't bad, you're just a BK :)

For my gamertag, look up "Ghoulishtie"

Ok, thankyou. The point im trying to make is, that there is already a Masterchief during the battle of Reach. Why have another?!

  • 06.02.2009 9:00 PM PDT

i agree because i think the planet is the BORG PLANET!!!! lolololol you will b assimimlated lolz

  • 06.02.2009 9:06 PM PDT
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What is marathon? Maybe I would understand better if I knew what Marathon and Onyx is.

  • 06.02.2009 9:10 PM PDT

Armor Lock isn't overpowered. You just suck at Reach :)

Reach isn't bad, you're just a BK :)

For my gamertag, look up "Ghoulishtie"

Marathon was a game created by bungie in the past. Its gameplay is similar to that of Doom (3D feeling, 2D graphics) People try to tie it with Halo, even though bungie has stated before that Marathon and Halo have NOTHING to do with eachother.

Onyx was a world compiled of trillions of sentinels. (I cant remember if it was near a shield world, or it WAS the shield world) From what I have heard though, it was destroyed and nothing is there now but sentinels guarding the portal that Onyx left behind when it was destroyed.

  • 06.02.2009 9:13 PM PDT

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i agree two master chiefs would be weird i belive that we will end up fighting on Reach before the halo event with no time traveling. all i have been trying to point out is that we should have expected to play on Reach because of little hints bungie has given us.

  • 06.02.2009 9:15 PM PDT

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  • 06.02.2009 9:15 PM PDT

I thought the hero in Marathon travels back in time?

  • 06.02.2009 9:17 PM PDT

Armor Lock isn't overpowered. You just suck at Reach :)

Reach isn't bad, you're just a BK :)

For my gamertag, look up "Ghoulishtie"

Posted by: AYuDEAD
I thought the hero in Marathon travels back in time?


I never played marathon, so I wouldnt know. Doesnt matter eitherway, Marathon and Halo are 2 completly different realities.

  • 06.02.2009 9:19 PM PDT