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Subject: Boats, possibly confirmed.
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Poll: Boats? good or bad?  [closed]
Boats=awesomeness!:  32%
(46 Votes)
Boats are ok, I could go either way.:  44%
(63 Votes)
Stop smoking, Boats will never be in H2.:  24%
(35 Votes)
Total Votes: 144

"But that said, there's plenty to chew on here as Bungie staffers discuss matters as diverse as water, physics and yacht club etiquette."

"Biggest thing this week has been getting a huge new vehicle up and running."

"Water and weather – we’re messing with Hao’s new systems for getting environmental effects in. You’d be surprised how much more complex these systems are compared to Halo 1."

I knew it, its true, it has to be. Maybe bungie actually listened to one of us(maybe me) and put boats in. These are direct quotes from the recent weekly update, now what do you think about boats(for the last time from me).

[Edited on 7/16/2004 5:22:24 PM]

  • 07.16.2004 5:08 PM PDT
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I can tell you one thing, boats were in renders for halo 1, so no, your opinion didn't affect them. And boats would be nice.

  • 07.16.2004 5:15 PM PDT
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99% total - thats funny

Anyway the one prblem with boats is you need navigable water ways.
Like lets looks at ZZbar yes you could use boats for the water behind you but where would you go just out to the ocean so it really seems like there is no point.

  • 07.16.2004 5:16 PM PDT
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Yes, check out the concept drawings for the aquatic equivalent of a warthog.

  • 07.16.2004 5:17 PM PDT
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thats THAT map, there are going to be island maps. where the water comes full circle and island hop maps with several islands, so boats make sense in some maps, and make none in others. just give em a chance.

  • 07.16.2004 5:18 PM PDT
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it would be just like vehicles in Halo 1. In some mp maps vehicles can't be used, but in others used with great effect.

  • 07.16.2004 5:27 PM PDT
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exactly, plus bungie seems like they are putting in a new vehicle design, but from what I know about every other vehicle as that all designs are done, now that they are talking about doing a new "huge" vehicle and lots of water/float your boat references in the update I think they are hinting us. So it couldent be much else besides a boat...

[Edited on 7/16/2004 5:29:55 PM]

  • 07.16.2004 5:29 PM PDT
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Besides, swamp buggies can go on land... though... sluggishly... so it all depends on how they design the boat as well.

  • 07.16.2004 5:30 PM PDT
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I hope they have some sort of a jetski!

  • 07.16.2004 5:38 PM PDT
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what about a 3 person speedboat with 2 motors and some sort of gun on the front, used for storming islands, sounds usefull for that one gametype(forgot its name) where one team is attacker and the other is a defender....

  • 07.16.2004 6:04 PM PDT
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Two level boat. Named the Shark ;)
Bottom level is the driver. On top is either a chain gun or a rocket launcher. On each side of the boat is a seat where one person can sit. The Shark is capable of speeds up to 40 kiles per hour. (Slightly slower than warthog.) It is very stable, thanks to the ballast tanks, however, you may empty the ballast tanks to reach speeds of 48 miles per hour. However, when the ballast tanks are empty the stabality of the Sharl is greatly reduced, meaning that it is easier to capasize.

  • 07.16.2004 6:10 PM PDT
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kool, keep the ideas coming, how some kind of trimiran boat where the middle has a spot for driver and gunner(whatever gun is attached to it) and on the two outer hulls a spot for gunner each able to use whatever weapons they are carrying...maybe a little far but still fun idea(never gunna happen but I can hope)

  • 07.16.2004 9:29 PM PDT

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what purpose would a boat serve when you can hover above the water? a submersible ship of some kind would actually serve a purpose.

  • 07.16.2004 9:44 PM PDT
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When can yu hover water i have ne ver seen anyone do it.

  • 07.16.2004 9:52 PM PDT
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Maybe Ghosts will be able to sit on top of water this time around, instead of falling down...

The idea for a boat is faulty, since it doesn't have a very safe environment- the Covenant ships could easily chase down boats on water- or flagships could do orbital bombardment... and if the water was hit by the plasma fire and splashed, it'd be steam, able to scald the marines.

  • 07.16.2004 9:55 PM PDT
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I never even seen a ghost in the same level as there is water

  • 07.16.2004 9:56 PM PDT

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there are ships in the halo universe that can hover such as the pelican. the technology is there, thus it eliminates the need to have a boat.

  • 07.16.2004 9:56 PM PDT
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True Harrier jet tech make boats unnessisary

DeathScythe you might wanna make a new post this one is gonna be locked in
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  • 07.16.2004 10:00 PM PDT
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thanks mod, you could have just edited out the name calling and scolded me in a pm, but noooo you delete the whole friggen post, whatever ill start again.

Boats ARE still usefull everyone.

1: covies own the air, so flying all the time is a BAD idea.

2: pelicans are only usefull for LARGE troop deployment, but on the other hand a jetski(one person) or a catamaran(2-3 people) are quite fast and usefull in deploying small amounts of people to an island.

3: a dual motored boat/jetski could smoke a pelican so if your going to go over water boats will be the vehicle of choice.

4: yes covenants have hover tech to go over water, Humans dont, there is not always a ghost/banshee waiting around for you to jack.

5:low-key, as in boats dont draw tons of attention unlike a screaming banshee or a whooshing pelican, therefore if your playing an island hop-CTF game boats are much more usefull than flying.

6:Instant exiting, if your flying hopping out while moving is BAD, but with a boat you only have water to land in, much safer if you see a rocket screaming towards you and you want a hasty exit, unlike a banshee/pelican.

7: jungle maps, flying is quite useless when the trees prevent any kind of liftoff/landing. but if there is a small river running about the map a small river boat will be quite usefull.

[Edited on 7/17/2004 12:10:20 AM]

  • 07.16.2004 10:19 PM PDT
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Any ideas/responses? I like any comment even when negative, as long as you have a reason for having a negative veiw(I.E. BOATS SUCK!!=bad without explaining why they suck)

  • 07.17.2004 12:12 AM PDT
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something like 70% of the earth is made up of water, so one would only assume there would be boats of a sort

  • 07.17.2004 12:16 AM PDT

SB-117

Posted by: DeathscytheV2
"But that said, there's plenty to chew on here as Bungie staffers discuss matters as diverse as water, physics and yacht club etiquette."

"Biggest thing this week has been getting a huge new vehicle up and running."

"Water and weather – we’re messing with Hao’s new systems for getting environmental effects in. You’d be surprised how much more complex these systems are compared to Halo 1."

I knew it, its true, it has to be. Maybe bungie actually listened to one of us(maybe me) and put boats in. These are direct quotes from the recent weekly update, now what do you think about boats(for the last time from me).


That doesnt prove anything just that the water effects are better and if they had put boats in then I doubt it would have been recently as they have to make the model animate it, add weapons, balance weapons, balance speed, add a destructibility system and etc. etc.

I'm sorry if Ive missed something though as I've only read your first post.

  • 07.17.2004 12:17 AM PDT
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They should basicly make a Warthog Boat.

Body of a Warthog, but with all the stuff you need for the boat.

No wheels. That would be dumb.

  • 07.17.2004 12:19 AM PDT

SB-117

I think boats would be pretty pointless because you can only use them in water and you cant swim so if you get out your stuck, you can't board, you cant fight infantry in a boat, its just boring to ride over water in my opinion. They had a boat in Halo but dropped it so I think they did that for a reason.

  • 07.17.2004 12:22 AM PDT

Play as a team win as a team or die as a team!

Posted by: DeathscytheV2
"But that said, there's plenty to chew on here as Bungie staffers discuss matters as diverse as water, physics and yacht club etiquette."

"Biggest thing this week has been getting a huge new vehicle up and running."

"Water and weather – we’re messing with Hao’s new systems for getting environmental effects in. You’d be surprised how much more complex these systems are compared to Halo 1."

I knew it, its true, it has to be. Maybe bungie actually listened to one of us(maybe me) and put boats in. These are direct quotes from the recent weekly update, now what do you think about boats(for the last time from me).


I've been telling you guys for like 3/4 of a year already about the boat and stuff and you guys still don't believe me!! I showed you guys a picture and all but nothing come on guys look around. There is going to be a boat in Halo 2 there was going to be one in Halo but they took it out because of the time as well as everything else.

  • 07.17.2004 12:23 AM PDT

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