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which is one of the options in the game i read that during the SPARTAN II project that some participants didnt make the cut to be Spartans, sooo i think it might be possible that some of the ODSTs might from the SPARTAN program, you know, it might explain why the ODSTs are so tall and why some may wield the turret gun............just guessing here.

  • 06.03.2009 4:49 AM PDT
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no most of them either died or became crippled if the experiments did not work.

Info from halo fall of reach book

  • 06.03.2009 4:51 AM PDT

I dont think your right; been a while since i read the books. But after the 150 candidates went through the augmentation process they either died, become to mutated to fight, or became spartans. None of them became ODST's as far as I'm aware.

  • 06.03.2009 4:54 AM PDT

thanks, i wasnt fully aware of what happened to the failed participants...... i guess ill have to go find Fall of Reach somewhere..............to read...........

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We should know better, because we are better.

How ever spartan-1s have became famous soldiers. You know 2 of them by name now(you better): the only surviing spartan 1sare Sgt. Johnson and Captain Dare.

  • 06.03.2009 4:57 AM PDT

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you're thinking of the washouts from the spartan III program. Maybe?

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Posted by: dr spartan32
Those candidates who didn't made it died or became severly handicapped. And only one of in the squad is the right age, Buck.


And before anyone says it, No, Buck is not a Spartan.

  • 06.03.2009 5:37 AM PDT

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  • 06.03.2009 5:39 AM PDT
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Posted by: Xd00999
How ever spartan-1s have became famous soldiers. You know 2 of them by name now(you better): the only surviing spartan 1sare Sgt. Johnson and Captain Dare.

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not that many candidates went through to augmentation. only half that went through.

There were about 180 selected, half that were augmented, half that made it through the process ok.

  • 06.04.2009 2:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cuautemoc
which is one of the options in the game i read that during the SPARTAN II project that some participants didnt make the cut to be Spartans, sooo i think it might be possible that some of the ODSTs might from the SPARTAN program, you know, it might explain why the ODSTs are so tall and why some may wield the turret gun............just guessing here.


one ODST mentioned in fall of reach was taller than chief

  • 06.04.2009 2:10 PM PDT

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There's no such thing as "not making the cut" when it comes to Spartans. You're hand-picked by the UNSC to participate. If you don't succeed in becoming a Spartan, you either died during the training or became crippled in the augmentation process.

  • 06.04.2009 2:13 PM PDT

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Why is everyone so keen on the ODSTs being Spartans??? Isn't it more compelling that they're regular humans who have become expert soldiers the good ol' fashioned 26th century way?

  • 06.04.2009 2:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cuautemoc
which is one of the options in the game i read that during the SPARTAN II project that some participants didnt make the cut to be Spartans, sooo i think it might be possible that some of the ODSTs might from the SPARTAN program, you know, it might explain why the ODSTs are so tall and why some may wield the turret gun............just guessing here.


one ODST mentioned in fall of reach was taller than chief


That's when John was only 14. He ends up almost killing that ODST in a fight anyway.

  • 06.04.2009 2:14 PM PDT

Posted by: snaky jones
one ODST mentioned in fall of reach was taller than chief

... because he was 14 at the time and he was taking on 4 adult ODSTs, so of course at least one of them would have been taller.

  • 06.04.2009 2:14 PM PDT

dont listen to Halo wars. it didnt fit in with the story at all. reason: i read the books that had all the spartans in it and they never went to that planet. also the flood was never released until halo 1.

also the ODST's are not any taller than a regular marine. also the old spartans that "didnt make the cut" were all horribly deformed in the biogenetic augmentation. they were then used to operate computers and such.

just clearin the water

  • 06.04.2009 2:19 PM PDT

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"I dont think your right; been a while since i read the books. But after the 150 candidates went through the augmentation process they either died, become to mutated to fight, or became spartans. None of them became ODST's as far as I'm aware."


most of that is true-but there were only 75 candidates went through the augmentation process- 38 made it thorugh and the other 37 either died or become to mutated to fight

i don't know where people are getting 150 or 180 canidates for the spartan 2 project-k so they had 150 but only choose the 75

Page 30 3rd word 1st line in Halo: the fall of reach clearly says-"Seventy Five children marched in-each with a handler"

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  • 06.04.2009 2:39 PM PDT

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Posted by: snaky jones
one ODST mentioned in fall of reach was taller than chief

... because he was 14 at the time and he was taking on 4 adult ODSTs, so of course at least one of them would have been taller.


ya but since the operation made them all taller usuing bone supplements would he have still grown naturally

  • 06.04.2009 2:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: Cuautemoc
which is one of the options in the game i read that during the SPARTAN II project that some participants didnt make the cut to be Spartans, sooo i think it might be possible that some of the ODSTs might from the SPARTAN program, you know, it might explain why the ODSTs are so tall and why some may wield the turret gun............just guessing here.


also so being 6'-6'3" is being tall eh

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Posted by: Xd00999
How ever spartan-1s have became famous soldiers. You know 2 of them by name now(you better): the only surviing spartan 1sare Sgt. Johnson and Captain Dare.


When was it comfirmed that Johnson was a Spartan 1?

  • 06.04.2009 2:42 PM PDT
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Dare is not a Spartan of any sort and neither is Johnson, no I have not read the books but from what I've heard all the Spartans were crippled or killed in the process. I'm not sure if that is just the II's but I know that Dare and Johnson are not Spartans. Dare is an ONI Operative, and Johnson is a Seargeant Major who is part of the Marine Core, so are the Spartans but they are part of a special section which neither Johnson nor Dare are in.

  • 06.04.2009 2:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: Xd00999
How ever spartan-1s have became famous soldiers. You know 2 of them by name now(you better): the only surviing spartan 1sare Sgt. Johnson and Captain Dare.


"Originally, S1 was thought to possibly refer to SPARTAN-I, a program that predated the Human-Covenant War, but was confirmed by Joseph Staten not to be a Spartan[3]. "-from halopedia-http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Dare

also where does it say the johnson was a spartan 1

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  • 06.04.2009 2:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: KingBR72
Dare is not a Spartan of any sort and neither is Johnson, no I have not read the books but from what I've heard all the Spartans were crippled or killed in the process. I'm not sure if that is just the II's but I know that Dare and Johnson are not Spartans. Dare is an ONI Operative, and Johnson is a Seargeant Major who is part of the Marine Core, so are the Spartans but they are part of a special section which neither Johnson nor Dare are in.


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what he said

  • 06.04.2009 2:50 PM PDT

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