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Subject: My New Theory About DARE - Why she must be a Spartan

Those who have read The Fall of Reach should be very familiar with the Spartan's MJOLNIR armour. You should also remember that the helmet communicates directly with Spartan's neural implant. This means that when the Spartan thinks about moving, the suit moves for him, decreasing reaction times. As far as I'm aware, it's only Spartan's Neural Implants that were deigned to work with the Spartan's helmets (although I could be wrong). So that would mean that Dare has to be a Spartan

Also, in the concept art for Halo 3: ODST she was in a full suit of MJOLNIR armour (recon permutations). If you remember, the spartans were shown a video of a marine trying to operate a set of MJOLNIR armour and it didn't end well. Spartan's are the only people who can wear it due to the physical enhancements they received during their augmentation.

Let me know what you think.

  • 06.03.2009 8:58 AM PDT

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I thought Dare was only wearing the Recon helmet. The armor on her body doesn't look protected and plated enough to be a mjolnir armour.

  • 06.03.2009 9:01 AM PDT

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It's probably not the same as a sparten one, just one that looks like it made for ONI or ODST's.

  • 06.03.2009 9:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: Rhea
Canada isn't that important that it needs two of the same threads on page one.

You can't be a Spartan and part of ONI. S1 is Section one of ONI and notice how she is only wearing the helmet now? That's why.

  • 06.03.2009 9:02 AM PDT
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Good theory but she is actually a covenant alien.

Theory- She wears the recon helmet at big size because she actually is a covenant alien plotting against her fellow team.

- It seems she has human fingers but she is half human half alien, meaning her head is alien and is why she wears a big helmet.

  • 06.03.2009 9:03 AM PDT

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Posted by: Niko Jims
You can't be a Spartan and part of ONI. S1 is Section one of ONI and notice how she is only wearing the helmet now? That's why.

If I remember correctly from the Fall of Reach, there were ex-spartans (failed ones) that are now in ONI.

  • 06.03.2009 9:03 AM PDT
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Isnt she a little short to be a spartan i think she's just an ONI ODST i guess.

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She's an ONI spook that wears the helmet to conceal her identity.

  • 06.03.2009 9:06 AM PDT

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Posted by: RainFall277
Posted by: Niko Jims
You can't be a Spartan and part of ONI. S1 is Section one of ONI and notice how she is only wearing the helmet now? That's why.

If I remember correctly from the Fall of Reach, there were ex-spartans (failed ones) that are now in ONI.


If books = canon the only way to fail Spartan training is if the augmentations mess you up. The selection process was very rigorous.

  • 06.03.2009 9:06 AM PDT
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We could wear the ODST helmet in Halo 3.

Yet all these guys are wearing them too.

Gasp. Just because it looks like the MJOLNIR Recon variant helmet, doesn't mean it is.

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  • 06.03.2009 9:07 AM PDT

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It's not a Spartan helmet, however if you do think it is then perhaps they adjusted it so it could fit her. Simple enough explanation, really.

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Posted by: Legend Killers1
You should also remember that the helmet communicates directly with Spartan's neural implant. This means that when the Spartan thinks about moving, the suit moves for him, decreasing reaction times. As far as I'm aware, it's only Spartan's Neural Implants that were deigned to work with the Spartan's helmets (although I could be wrong). So that would mean that Dare has to be a Spartan

There's the possibility that the Recon helmet is similar to the ODST helmet, in the sense that it can be worn by both Humans and Spartans.

Posted by: Legend Killers1
Also, in the concept art for Halo 3: ODST she was in a full suit of MJOLNIR armour (recon permutations).
I'm assuming you're talking about this concept art. I'd have to agree that it looks like MJOLNIR armour (Well, mainly for the legs, forearms and helmet.) I'm fairly sure it isn't.
If you compare the body armour to this ODST, it is practically the same. Which leads me to believe this isn't MJOLNIR and instead just similar looking leg armour.

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Dare is part of ONI thus the Recon Helmet, the body and shoulders are ODST not MJOLNR or however you spell it.

  • 06.03.2009 9:10 AM PDT

can't be a spartan she only has the helmet and she probaly most likely dies like all the other odst's in the game although some of them probaly do survive.

  • 06.03.2009 9:11 AM PDT
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Posted by: J DOSHGood theory but she is actually a covenant alien.Theory- She wears the recon helmet at big size because she actually is a covenant alien plotting against her fellow team. - It seems she has human fingers but she is half human half alien, meaning her head is alien and is why she wears a big helmet.     OK  I mean that might be a little reasonable, but her being an Alien is probably not true. If you read her records everything but her gender is classified which means you probably find out that stuff at the end, plus if she was an Alien wouldn't she just kill all her ODST comrades in the beggining which would totally screw up campain.

[Edited on 06.03.2009 9:13 AM PDT]

  • 06.03.2009 9:12 AM PDT

Posted by: Plain Ben
Posted by: Legend Killers1
You should also remember that the helmet communicates directly with Spartan's neural implant. This means that when the Spartan thinks about moving, the suit moves for him, decreasing reaction times. As far as I'm aware, it's only Spartan's Neural Implants that were deigned to work with the Spartan's helmets (although I could be wrong). So that would mean that Dare has to be a Spartan

There's the possibility that the Recon helmet is similar to the ODST helmet, in the sense that it can be worn by both Humans and Spartans.

Posted by: Legend Killers1
Also, in the concept art for Halo 3: ODST she was in a full suit of MJOLNIR armour (recon permutations).
I'm assuming you're talking about this concept art. I'd have to agree that it looks like MJOLNIR armour (Well, mainly for the legs, forearms and helmet.) I'm fairly sure it isn't.
If you compare the body armour to this ODST, it is practically the same. Which leads me to believe this isn't MJOLNIR and instead just similar looking leg armour.

Damn it Ben, you had to get involved didn't you : P

Maybe my "edvidence" wasn't as solid as I thought it was but nevertheless she COULD be a spartan. I guess we won't know for sure until Bungie releases more info on here.

[Edited on 06.03.2009 9:16 AM PDT]

  • 06.03.2009 9:15 AM PDT


Posted by: RainFall277
Posted by: Niko Jims
You can't be a Spartan and part of ONI. S1 is Section one of ONI and notice how she is only wearing the helmet now? That's why.

If I remember correctly from the Fall of Reach, there were ex-spartans (failed ones) that are now in ONI.


There are Spartans in the ONI, but if I remember correctly, they were so badly damaged by the augmentation, the only thing they can do is sit in a chair and type reports for the ONI. Chief Mendez said that they were unable to fight, but they still could use their brains, unless there is some way that they manage to help the Spartans get restored to fighting condition. In that case, DARE is a Spartan, but it is highly unlikely.

  • 06.03.2009 9:18 AM PDT

Posted by: J DOSH
Good theory but she is actually a covenant alien.

Theory- She wears the recon helmet at big size because she actually is a covenant alien plotting against her fellow team.

- It seems she has human fingers but she is half human half alien, meaning her head is alien and is why she wears a big helmet.

I do hope you're joking. There's no way ONI would assign someone to S1 without ever seeing their face.

  • 06.03.2009 9:18 AM PDT

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Posted by: RainFall277
Posted by: Niko Jims
You can't be a Spartan and part of ONI. S1 is Section one of ONI and notice how she is only wearing the helmet now? That's why.

If I remember correctly from the Fall of Reach, there were ex-spartans (failed ones) that are now in ONI.


There are Spartans in the ONI, but if I remember correctly, they were so badly damaged by the augmentation, the only thing they can do is sit in a chair and type reports for the ONI. Chief Mendez said that they were unable to fight, but they still could use their brains, unless there is some way that they manage to help the Spartans get restored to fighting condition. In that case, DARE is a Spartan, but it is highly unlikely.
Yea you're right. Some of them were crippled from the process and were sent to work in the ONI office. (Maybe it was the one that was blown up in the E3 demo :O

  • 06.03.2009 9:20 AM PDT

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Posted by: RainFall277
Posted by: Niko Jims
You can't be a Spartan and part of ONI. S1 is Section one of ONI and notice how she is only wearing the helmet now? That's why.

If I remember correctly from the Fall of Reach, there were ex-spartans (failed ones) that are now in ONI.


There are Spartans in the ONI, but if I remember correctly, they were so badly damaged by the augmentation, the only thing they can do is sit in a chair and type reports for the ONI. Chief Mendez said that they were unable to fight, but they still could use their brains, unless there is some way that they manage to help the Spartans get restored to fighting condition. In that case, DARE is a Spartan, but it is highly unlikely.


Or maybe as technology advanced, ONI cloned Dare a new body and somehow had a brain transplant?

  • 06.03.2009 9:23 AM PDT
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maybe she failed to be a spartan because she is too little

  • 06.03.2009 9:25 AM PDT

Perhaps the Multiplayer Recon helmet is an adapted ODST one?

  • 06.03.2009 9:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: RainFall277
Posted by: Niko Jims
You can't be a Spartan and part of ONI. S1 is Section one of ONI and notice how she is only wearing the helmet now? That's why.

If I remember correctly from the Fall of Reach, there were ex-spartans (failed ones) that are now in ONI.


This seems like a good theory, but I think that Recon is not a spartan helmet.

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The reason the lieutenant got crushed by the armor was because he was wearing all of it. If she was wearing just the helmet then there wouldn't be anything to crush her would there?

  • 06.03.2009 9:31 AM PDT

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maybe she failed to be a spartan because she is too little

Then she wouldn't had been selected from the start. The Spartans where carefully handpicked across the universe.

  • 06.03.2009 9:35 AM PDT

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