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Jannisary James! The Spartan 1.1 ?!?

In Ilovebees , Kevin 1.1 mentioned they had a ship or a weapons cache in New Mombossa

  • 06.03.2009 9:00 AM PDT

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She's not a Spartan. She's not wearing the Spartan "power armour", just a typical UNSC Recon hemlet.

  • 06.03.2009 9:02 AM PDT

"Jesus saves, everybody else takes damage." some gal's t-shirt

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Yes, she is not wearing the armor, the does not disqualify her from being a Spartan. The armor is just armor.

There were Spartan 1s that retired and in fact even one of John 117s class that retired. Then reactivated, Maria-062

But I just had an Idea, maybe she is Rani Sobeck? Non Spartan Oni Recruit? She wouldn't have to be a Spartan to wear the Spartan Helmet, would she? Hmmm..

  • 06.03.2009 9:08 AM PDT
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In all honesty the picture of her wearing the helmet looks photshoped.

Seriously though I dont think DARE is real look at the top bar all the other squad members are there but were is DARE?

[Edited on 06.03.2009 9:12 AM PDT]

  • 06.03.2009 9:09 AM PDT

"Jesus saves, everybody else takes damage." some gal's t-shirt

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Sam3ed, really? Are you trolling or what?

My thoughts laid out, more clearly (but maybe not clear)

Perhaps she is a retired Spartan , or transfered from the Spartans to the Nav Spec War group or ONI.

There is precedence for retired Spartans, at least one. Maria-062 retired , had kids and re-upped to test Spartan hardware for Nav Spec War(I think that was the group). She tested 117 before he got it, I believe and she tested it against ODSTs. (Halo Graphic Novel)

She is wearing a Spartan helmet but not the Spartan power armor. So that could be. Spartan armor would be hard to come by. Maybe that is why she would be a Spartan but not in the Moljnir armor. Maybe she just had to mobilize too soon.

Another possibility Maybe she is a Spartan from the 2nd class of recruits and was recruited directly to ONI or a similar group.

Or.. Maybe she is the offspring of a Spartan 1. Maybe she is Jenisarriy James from the IloveBees.com story line.

Or maybe she isn't a Spartan at all? Maybe She is Rani Sobeck, the ONI recruit from Ilovebees.

  • 06.03.2009 9:15 AM PDT

Master Chief is the last spartan at the start of halo:ce yes? well this game is at the start of halo 2 when hes still guna b the last spartan

  • 06.03.2009 9:21 AM PDT

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Posted by: mcaleer X
Master Chief is the last spartan at the start of halo:ce yes? well this game is at the start of halo 2 when hes still guna b the last spartan


The find other Spartans after Halo: CE and there's always the Gray team.

  • 06.03.2009 9:24 AM PDT

"Jesus saves, everybody else takes damage." some gal's t-shirt

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No, he is not the last, there is another Skywalker....


seriously, though..

No according to the novels and graphic novel there are others.

I think ONI just came up with that cover to keep the Spartan program secret.

  • 06.03.2009 9:25 AM PDT

"Jesus saves, everybody else takes damage." some gal's t-shirt

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Where did Joe Staten say that Dare was not a Spartan?

  • 06.03.2009 10:40 PM PDT

Posted by: dante144
Where did Joe Staten say that Dare was not a Spartan?


Well he doesn't really have to considering that she's not an eight foot tall walking tank.

  • 06.03.2009 10:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sam3ed
In all honesty the picture of her wearing the helmet looks photshoped.

Seriously though I dont think DARE is real look at the top bar all the other squad members are there but were is DARE?
Right next to the Headlight fluid.

[Edited on 06.03.2009 10:47 PM PDT]

  • 06.03.2009 10:46 PM PDT

"Jesus saves, everybody else takes damage." some gal's t-shirt

http://DanteDreams.com <- my webcomic

Not all Spartans were the same height. In the first book It says that one of 117's brothers was a head taller than him. Also she isn't wearing the power armor.

She is obviously tough to to drop in a pod from Orbit. And live.

  • 06.03.2009 11:15 PM PDT

"Empathise with stupidity, and you're halfway to thinking like an idiot." - Iain M. Banks

While we are throwing out rampant speculation, she could also be a Spartan-III, one of Gamma company. According to "Ghosts of Onyx" most of Gamma company was off Onyx when it activated (which is a few days after the Fall of Reach, corresponding with the failed activation and then destruction of Installation-04).

Which means they may still be around during the time of Halo 2 / Halo 3: ODST. DARE could easily be one of them, and her secretive nature could be an indication that she is one of Col. Ackerson's tools.

Yes, this speculation is baseless.

[Edited on 06.04.2009 3:19 AM PDT]

  • 06.04.2009 12:59 AM PDT

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ILoveBees, though awesome, is not official canon.

And, I highly doubt that if it were canon.

  • 06.04.2009 1:53 AM PDT

"Jesus saves, everybody else takes damage." some gal's t-shirt

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So Dare's name is Monica, or something _onica, ass hown in the gamestop video.

But still it would be great to see some Ilovebees people here somewhere.

  • 06.04.2009 9:42 AM PDT

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Posted by: dante144
Sam3ed, really? Are you trolling or what?

My thoughts laid out, more clearly (but maybe not clear)

Perhaps she is a retired Spartan , or transfered from the Spartans to the Nav Spec War group or ONI.

There is precedence for retired Spartans, at least one. Maria-062 retired , had kids and re-upped to test Spartan hardware for Nav Spec War(I think that was the group). She tested 117 before he got it, I believe and she tested it against ODSTs. (Halo Graphic Novel)

She is wearing a Spartan helmet but not the Spartan power armor. So that could be. Spartan armor would be hard to come by. Maybe that is why she would be a Spartan but not in the Moljnir armor. Maybe she just had to mobilize too soon.

Another possibility Maybe she is a Spartan from the 2nd class of recruits and was recruited directly to ONI or a similar group.

Or.. Maybe she is the offspring of a Spartan 1. Maybe she is Jenisarriy James from the IloveBees.com story line.

Or maybe she isn't a Spartan at all? Maybe She is Rani Sobeck, the ONI recruit from Ilovebees.



Or maybe, just maybe, she is a *gasp* new character!

  • 06.04.2009 9:47 AM PDT

-Buddha

There's a bit of game play on Gamespot's website. Buck refers to her as Veronica in the cut scene. This cut scene seems to be the opening cut scene. You also see everyone's face but the Rookie in the cut scene.

Here's the vid: http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6211451/?hd=1&tag=top_storie s;play_btn;13

Edit: And before there is any conclusions jumped to, there is no known Spartan by the name of Veronica. Also, Joe Staten has stated Dare is not a Spartan. All Spartans (while their height differentiates with eachother) are much taller than Marines.

Here's a list of all known Spartans still alive. (Not including Grey team because frankly we don't know):

SPARTAN-042: Douglas Last seen aboard Spirit of Fire in 2531
SPARTAN-047: Keiichi Last seen during the First Battle of Arcadia
SPARTAN-058: Linda - Active in Shield World
SPARTAN-062: Maria - Retired
SPARTAN-084: Fhajad - Discharged, sent to work for ONI, current status unknown
SPARTAN-087: Kelly - Active in Shield World
SPARTAN-092: Jerome - Last seen aboard Spirit of Fire in 2531
SPARTAN-104: Frederic - Active in Shield World
SPARTAN-117: John - MIA (Active) , on the aft section of the Forward Unto Dawn, last seen drifting toward an unknown planet
SPARTAN-130: Alice - Last seen aboard Spirit of Fire in 2531
Cassandra - WIA
Kirk - Discharged
Rene - Discharged


There are still 7 unnamed non-washed out Spartan IIs. Don't know if these guys are dead. So no telling.

Anywho, long point short. Dare is NOT a Spartan-II. There are 315 Spartan-III's remaining, but since Staten said that dare was not a Spartan, I'm pretty sure it covers this as well.

[Edited on 06.04.2009 10:08 AM PDT]

  • 06.04.2009 9:54 AM PDT
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She's not a Spartan. She's not wearing the Spartan "power armour", just a typical UNSC Recon hemlet.

Spartans wear it.

  • 06.04.2009 9:57 AM PDT
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She is not a spartan.

  • 06.04.2009 9:58 AM PDT

RECON must be like the ODst helmet you can wear it was modified to fit Spartans

  • 06.04.2009 10:01 AM PDT

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Posted by: Sam3ed
In all honesty the picture of her wearing the helmet looks photshoped.

Seriously though I dont think DARE is real look at the top bar all the other squad members are there but were is DARE?


Well if you watch this video you'll see her carrying the Recon helmet. She has blonde hair and was speaking about a 'change of plan'.

  • 06.04.2009 10:02 AM PDT

"Jesus saves, everybody else takes damage." some gal's t-shirt

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because we can't play the game now, that is why. It is fun to speculate as well.

[Edited on 06.09.2009 2:50 AM PDT]

  • 06.09.2009 2:50 AM PDT