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Subject: Please Bungie, remove the ability for ODSTs to lift turrets!
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Posted by: ABotelho
And the use of the forum is...?
To say the game is awesome...?

  • 06.03.2009 4:52 PM PDT

Posted by: HERETIC HEROB91
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Posted by: sPidey kOon
Dude here:
1)It's a game, you can fly in games, you can do what ever you want in games.
2)I don't know if it's true, but I heard that if they rip it off, they will walk slower than a usual spartan.
3)ODST are between marines and spartan, so they are half a spartan so why not.


half spartan you f**king idiot whats this guy on about. seriously, twat

Dude flaming, and if a b.net mod sees that, you are banned.

and carrying a turret is lame, two suppressed SMG's would be much better than a turret. then you can still have some secrecy about you in game.
duel wielding should be there along with duel needlers once again

  • 06.03.2009 4:55 PM PDT

Actually, if you go here, at 3:52 it says "hold B to detach turret." That pretty much proves they really can rip them off.

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  • 06.03.2009 4:58 PM PDT

The turret is a 7.62mm minigun. They have 7.62mm miniguns doormounted on Black Hawk choppers, called the M134. Even if you took one off the mount and gave it to a frigging Olympic weightlifter and told him to fire it, I guarantee he'd be on his ass before the gun even got up to full speed. It's not just a matter of lifting it, its the matter of the recoil from throwing so much lead so fast. Take it out, I say.

  • 06.03.2009 4:59 PM PDT

Well, ODST troopers can indeed rip off turrets from their stands. Just saw it on E3 live.

  • 06.03.2009 4:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: Feakz001
The turret is a 7.62mm minigun. They have 7.62mm miniguns doormounted on Black Hawk choppers, called the M134. Even if you took one off the mount and gave it to a frigging Olympic weightlifter and told him to fire it, I guarantee he'd be on his ass before the gun even got up to full speed. It's not just a matter of lifting it, its the matter of the recoil from throwing so much lead so fast. Take it out, I say.


This.

Well, ODST troopers can indeed rip off turrets from their stands. Just saw it on E3 live.

Same.

[Edited on 06.03.2009 5:00 PM PDT]

  • 06.03.2009 5:00 PM PDT

Posted by: Feakz001
The turret is a 7.62mm minigun. They have 7.62mm miniguns doormounted on Black Hawk choppers, called the M134. Even if you took one off the mount and gave it to a frigging Olympic weightlifter and told him to fire it, I guarantee he'd be on his ass before the gun even got up to full speed. It's not just a matter of lifting it, its the matter of the recoil from throwing so much lead so fast. Take it out, I say.

O.O

Yes, it has to go... NOW!

  • 06.03.2009 5:27 PM PDT

The tip of the sword... That's the place I am at.. In the front of the fighting force.

Can I just say that Bungie isn't going to take them out? Just so we all know they're not going to. They're to far along in the game to do so for starters. Besides if Bungie wants them to take them off of the stand.... then they can take them off of the stand.

  • 06.03.2009 5:29 PM PDT

93% of statistics are lies. Formerly Xfire Grunt. Unfortunately, you can't change the WLID for your BNET account, so I had to create an alternate account. My other WLID was spam city (and it was my e-mail account too).

how about this? ODST have Steroid injections, but they don't have the coirdination of a Spartan and can't reload two SMGs/fire two SMGs without serious accuracy drops? I mean its tough to fire two recoiling guns at the same time, plus reloading? Only MC has those skills.

  • 06.03.2009 5:38 PM PDT

Posted by: Ksychutrya
how about this? ODST have Steroid injections, but they don't have the coirdination of a Spartan and can't reload two SMGs/fire two SMGs without serious accuracy drops? I mean its tough to fire two recoiling guns at the same time, plus reloading? Only MC has those skills.

See now, your should trying to back up Bungie with some ridiculous excuse...

  • 06.03.2009 5:39 PM PDT

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Roam the streets with a sign, "will love for false hope."

You remember that Firefight video where the very first wave had Wraiths and the guy who got on the turret immediately pulled it off and ran away? Well what if he couldn't do that and a single mortar blew the Turret off the mount before he could use it? Now what's he supposed to do?

We don't really know much about the Turrets. If Dutch can wield a Spartan Laser, then Romeo can pick up a Turret. The only thing that's wrong about it is that Spartans are slower when they use them. But a turret doesn't have to be too heavy for a human to wield. I think it makes sense considering everything else an ODST cannot do. We can't dual wield, we can't use equipment, we can't take a mortar to the face. But we can use a machine gun, Flamethrower, or Missile Pod. I think it's okay realizing what had to be compromised for gameplay purposes.

Here's a compromise. If you don't think you should use a turret. Then don't. OMG, problem solved! <.<

[Edited on 06.03.2009 5:44 PM PDT]

  • 06.03.2009 5:39 PM PDT

Common Sense is so rare is should be a super power.

I think that the ability for the ODST's to rip off and fire a turret like the Chief could do is ridiculous. When the Chief does it, even he slows down to a slow walk and he is genetically altered and wearing power armour. The idea that what basically amounts to a Navy Seal/Delta Force soldier can do it is just too far fetched. Bring in the dual wielding, take out the carryable turrets.

On a side note: If the Chief was strong enough to carry the turret, why couldn't he take the tri-pod as well and re-plant it when needed?

  • 06.03.2009 5:41 PM PDT

yes

  • 06.03.2009 5:43 PM PDT

Posted by: TheJadedTarget
You remember that Firefight video where the very first wave had Wraiths and the guy who got on the turret immediately pulled it off and ran away? Well what if he couldn't do that and a single mortar blew the Turret off the mount before he could use it? Now what's he supposed to do?

We don't really know much about the Turrets. If Dutch can wield a Spartan Laser, then Romeo can pick up a Turret. The only thing that's wrong about it is that Spartans are slower when they use them. But a turret doesn't have to be too heavy for a human to wield. I think it makes sense considering everything else an ODST cannot do. We can't dual wield, we can use equipment, we can't take a mortar to the face. But we can use a machine gun, Flamethrower, or Missile Pod. I think it's okay realizing what had to be compromised for gameplay purposes.

Spartan laser is wielded on the shoulder, which can carry much much more weight, plus the spartan laser isn't nearly as big as a turret.

  • 06.03.2009 5:43 PM PDT

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I drink your milkshake!

"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu, the Art of War

No, Survival mode is going to be merciless, wielding turrets will be vital to success.

  • 06.03.2009 5:45 PM PDT
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No problem over reactor.

  • 06.03.2009 5:45 PM PDT

Self-proclaimed genius.
Roam the streets with a sign, "will love for false hope."

Bigger doesn't equal heavier. People can run around with Miniguns in real life. Who's to say that the Turret isn't made fully of polymer? I say, deal with it as it's probably not being removed. People always have to make such a big deal about things...

OMG! And Dare's helmet is too big! See? Why the hell was that thrown in here when there's over a dozen thread about that same, exact topic? Hence, turrets were mentioned before and I agreed before that they probably shouldn't be done. But then I realized that they can be knocked off the mount and a Marine did use a Flamethrower on Floodgate. So, dismounted Turrets can be used by ODSTs.

Accept the fact.

  • 06.03.2009 5:47 PM PDT

Posted by: ABotelho
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Posted by: sPidey kOon


You idiot I said in video games overall you have the ability to fly, so who cares if you can rip a silly turret, AND, I remember grunts able to carry turrets easily, I am SURE ODST are stronger.

WTF are you smoking for you to have seen that?


Heavy grunts do carry them on their shoulder.

Are you playing the same Halo 3 as me?

he means the plasma turrets, they carry them around in crows nest i think but they have to PUT THEM DOWN in order to use them, so still, no, they are not strong.

  • 06.03.2009 5:48 PM PDT

Posted by: Templar0577
No, Survival mode is going to be merciless, wielding turrets will be vital to success.

If it's only Firefight, it's fine. But if it's in campaign, just no.

I wonder if a Bungie employee can enlighten us?

  • 06.03.2009 5:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

You dont have the right to speak for the whole community just because you think its retarded doesnt mean everyone thinks its retarded. Also the reason for them not being able to dual wield is because the ODSTs need both hands to steady his/her weapon. Though a turret is easyer to wield than 2 pistols though not necassarly lighter. Remember spartans have been trained from 6 years old to kill.

  • 06.03.2009 5:50 PM PDT

Posted by: TheJadedTarget
Accept the fact.

I'd like to show you this:
Posted by: Feakz001
The turret is a 7.62mm minigun. They have 7.62mm miniguns doormounted on Black Hawk choppers, called the M134. Even if you took one off the mount and gave it to a frigging Olympic weightlifter and told him to fire it, I guarantee he'd be on his ass before the gun even got up to full speed. It's not just a matter of lifting it, its the matter of the recoil from throwing so much lead so fast. Take it out, I say.

Yes, bye bye ODST arm.

The turret isn't just something we should ignore. It's a big part of gameplay.

  • 06.03.2009 5:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: ABotelho
Posted by: Ksychutrya
how about this? ODST have Steroid injections, but they don't have the coirdination of a Spartan and can't reload two SMGs/fire two SMGs without serious accuracy drops? I mean its tough to fire two recoiling guns at the same time, plus reloading? Only MC has those skills.

See now, your should trying to back up Bungie with some ridiculous excuse...


?

The best excuse is that its a video game, and dual wielding was a failed mechanism, and turret wielding was not a failed mechanism? How about that for an explanation. Gameplay > Realism, not to mention these ODSTs are probably on steroids and can probably do that like I said, but that doesn't matter, because its a VIDEO GAME. When was the last time you saw people magically regain health through "health packs"? Or 2 ton pieces of metal "float" (There was a gigantic thread arguing the physics of this near Halo 3 release).

  • 06.03.2009 5:53 PM PDT

No battle is decided in a single moment, although in every battle there arise moments of crisis, on which the result depends. - Carl von Clausewitz

I drink your milkshake!

"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu, the Art of War

Posted by: ABotelho
Posted by: Templar0577
No, Survival mode is going to be merciless, wielding turrets will be vital to success.

If it's only Firefight, it's fine. But if it's in campaign, just no.

I wonder if a Bungie employee can enlighten us?
I've only seen them remove turrets in Firefight. I don't think turrets will be copious in campaign. For example, look at Dutch's level. I didn't see any turrets there. Maybe gauss cannon emplacements but no Gatling gun emplacements (the ones that are removable).

  • 06.03.2009 5:53 PM PDT
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Nothing is true. Everything is permitted.

I'm pretty sure that ability only applies to Butch since he can wield the Spartan Laser.

  • 06.03.2009 5:54 PM PDT

"YOUR DESTRUCTION IS THE WILL OF THE GODS, AND WE ARE THEIR INSTRUMENT."

Detach, not rip off. Notice how turrets have to be assembled? Meaning they can be disassembled. Nowhere is it stated turrets are only able to be detached by Spartans.

  • 06.03.2009 5:55 PM PDT