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Subject: THEORY That The Rookie Is The Master Chief's CLONE --UPDATE 5--

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First off:
1. I am only stating what could happen.
2. This please state reasons As in links: pictures, or anything else. NOT JUST LOGIC!!!
3. This is the last time. If you continue to post facts that have no valid argument and I answered in this post, I will not answer them.

Many clues point to the fact that the Master Chief, whose first name is John (last name unknown) is really the rookie. This is impossible however, as during this time John was off on Delta Halo. But for anyone who has read the books, you know that John-117 was replaced with a clone so that his parents would not suspect anything. And this is where the thread begins.

Posted by: MaxRealflugel
The only difference is the where they live or lived. But we don't know for certain if John was actually born on Eridanus 2.He may have been born on draco 3 (like Buck) and then moved to Eridanus a few years later.
Then John was abducted and the flash clone was put in his place.

It also says on Bucks character profile that if he was any better, he'd be a Spartan.

Remember, Bungie is well versed in the art of mis-direction.

I know it seems far-fetched, but then so is the subject of a race of highly advanced superbeings that built 7 enormous rings in deep space.


This thread was posted a few hours ago, but speculates that instead of Rookie being John-117, BUCKS is. This would not fit however as far too much is known about his name, which does not agree with John's name. Therefore, BUCKS cannot be The Master Chief.

Posted by: Noskills117
I have found that in the field guide in the personnel section for all other members of the ODST Squad their initials are the last 2 characters of their service number... And the last two letters of rookie's service number is JD.

Therefore this means that his name starts with a J and his last name starts with a D.

Quick! scour the web for people who's name is J_____ D______, Or maybe see if there is anyone playing rookie's voice (if he even talks...)with those initials! Maybe a bungie employee!

Post if you have an idea who!! Of couses i hope i don't ruin anything : (
......

Rookie however can. His name and age are classified, so there is no barrier there. However, his service tag which ends in JD fits perfectly with the John we all know and love. **J=John, D=Master Chief's unknown last name.** Therefore it is very likely that The Master Chief is Rookie.

FOR:

John is the first letter of Rookie's name. (See above)

John could[i] be any age

Master Chief was cloned so his clone could be Rookie

And also, we all know that Dr. Hasley was immediatly obsessed with John. Therefore she could have broken protocole.

In addition, Dr. Hasley left with Kelly in The First Strike. Kelly was the second most gifted of all the spartans. Therefore she could taken Kelly to the CLONE of John. who knows why. Dr. Hasley loved them both.

Slipspace changes age. He COULD be younger...

Hasley COULD have made two.

John could be a normal clone. NO genes altered.

AGAINST:

John's clone was [i]speculated
to have died along with the other clones. (Nowhere does it say he specificially died.)

Please discuss and add comments. I will list facts for both sides, so if you do not think it is possible EXPLAIN!

[Edited on 06.03.2009 9:17 PM PDT]

  • 06.03.2009 8:09 PM PDT
Subject: Proof That The Rookie Is The Master Chief

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No, he's not.

  • 06.03.2009 8:10 PM PDT

It's like if the Fanta girls and the the cast of Girls gone Wild participated in a remake of Labyrinth that takes place in a crackhouse version of Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory where the sugar is cocaine, the candy is crystal meth, and the chocolate is LSD*takes a breath*and the goblin king became the gummy bear king.

LET ME AT EM LET ME AT EM *gets held back by b-net member*

  • 06.03.2009 8:11 PM PDT

?

He's not. At all. I'm sorry, but this shouldn't be discussed at all. They are two entirely different characters. It's literally impossible on so many levels for the Rookie to be the Chief.

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The spartans clones died shortly after made.

  • 06.03.2009 8:11 PM PDT
Subject: Proof That The Rookie Is The Master Chief --UPDATED--

The story takes place around Halo 2...

-_-

[Edited on 06.03.2009 8:13 PM PDT]

  • 06.03.2009 8:11 PM PDT
Subject: Proof That The Rookie Is The Master Chief

if u wanna have a clan war message me ull be ownd =P

so ts really his clone lol. i hate to say it but. i believe it lol

  • 06.03.2009 8:12 PM PDT

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"Why? What did Will ever do to you?"

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LET ME AT EM LET ME AT EM *gets held back by b-net member*

lol

  • 06.03.2009 8:12 PM PDT

Clones don't last very long only a few years I think....after that I'm pretty sure they die. So I don't think your theory is possible.

  • 06.03.2009 8:13 PM PDT

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So the Rookie is the flash clone? Heh, Thats like a Terminator-esqe twist....Good thinking, doubt its true however seems a bit to far out, it would only really make sense for those who have read the books.

  • 06.03.2009 8:13 PM PDT

The clones they made of the abducted Spartan canidates died shortly from an intentional disease.

  • 06.03.2009 8:13 PM PDT

I'm like a rock. Hard, lazy, hopeless, and charismatic/boring.

I'm perfect, you're not. Can you handle that? I think I'll manage.

REDACTED!- means its not going to happen.

Let me get this straight. you are claiming that the rookie is master chief but then you say he isn't? Or are you saying that the clone might actually be the rookie? Either no don't think so.

  • 06.03.2009 8:13 PM PDT
Subject: Proof That The Rookie Is The Master Chief --UPDATED--

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Posted by: Recon Dare
The spartans clones died shortly after made.

Prove it. I would like specific facts where JOHN dies. They simply said that they were implanted with a disease.

[Edited on 06.03.2009 8:14 PM PDT]

  • 06.03.2009 8:13 PM PDT
Subject: Proof That The Rookie Is The Master Chief

Posted by: Recon Dare
The spartans clones died shortly after made.

This.

  • 06.03.2009 8:13 PM PDT
Subject: Proof That The Rookie Is The Master Chief --UPDATED--

"When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons! What am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give EL1TE SUPR3MACY lemons! Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I'm gonna get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!"

I remember reading in one of the Halo novels (First Strike?) that all the Spartan project's flash clones that were made died just a few short years after their creation. Master Chief's clone was dead during Halo 3: ODST's time frame.

  • 06.03.2009 8:13 PM PDT
Subject: Proof That The Rookie Is The Master Chief

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the only problem is that the flash cloning process lead to organ failure and death....

  • 06.03.2009 8:14 PM PDT
Subject: Proof That The Rookie Is The Master Chief --UPDATED--

Halo forever!!

TSDFGHH not just radom gibberish.

Once again no. He can't be on Delta halo and new Mombasa at the same time. Go play halo 2 for more details

  • 06.03.2009 8:14 PM PDT

?

Posted by: sharpace77
Posted by: Recon Dare
The spartans clones died shortly after made.

Prove it.


If you haven't read at least one of the books or understand the basic details about the series, you really shouldn't be making threads like this.

  • 06.03.2009 8:14 PM PDT
Subject: Proof That The Rookie Is The Master Chief

You should also know those clones die of natural causes.

  • 06.03.2009 8:14 PM PDT
Subject: Proof That The Rookie Is The Master Chief --UPDATED--

Posted by: sharpace77
Posted by: Recon Dare
The spartans clones died shortly after made.

Prove it. I would like specific facts where JOHN dies. They simply said that they were implanted with a disease.


Here Read this

All your proof needed

  • 06.03.2009 8:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: tsdfghh
Once again no. He can't be on Delta halo and new Mombasa at the same time. Go play halo 2 for more details

He was cloned.

  • 06.03.2009 8:14 PM PDT
Subject: Proof That The Rookie Is The Master Chief

Check my masterpiece here.

Posted by: Recon Dare
The spartans clones died shortly after made.

I though FOR said the flashed clones were returned to their families. It could be possible that the Rookie is Jon's clone. Interesting to think about. Not much evidence besides the initials but that's a lot more than some crack pot theories have.

  • 06.03.2009 8:15 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

Posted by: LoneStaruner
Posted by: Recon Dare
The spartans clones died shortly after made.

This.


Let me clarify, ALL OF THEM.

and if they didn't die of sickness, then the covenant killed them when their planets were glassed.

  • 06.03.2009 8:15 PM PDT
Subject: Proof That The Rookie Is The Master Chief --UPDATED--

?

Posted by: sharpace77
Posted by: tsdfghh
Once again no. He can't be on Delta halo and new Mombasa at the same time. Go play halo 2 for more details

He was cloned.



And the clone is dead.

Posted by: minibum
Posted by: Recon Dare
The spartans clones died shortly after made.

I though FOR said the flashed clones were returned to their families. It could be possible that the Rookie is Jon's clone. Interesting to think about. Not much evidence besides the initials but that's a lot more than some crack pot theories have.


Except the Clone is dead. And would've died anyway when Epsilon Eridani was glassed.

[Edited on 06.03.2009 8:16 PM PDT]

  • 06.03.2009 8:15 PM PDT