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Subject: nevermind, problem solved

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Poll: DARE- Spartan?  [closed]
No:  74%
(17 Votes)
Yes:  26%
(6 Votes)
Total Votes: 23

EDIT- NO, SHE IS NOT. IT'S OFFICIAL (see somewhere below).




Ok, I've seen alot of speculation that DARE is a spartan. My say (and please let me know if you agree with this) is that she is NOT a spartan. Of course, that's just my say, I want to hear what you say about it, after reading the ideas and counter-ideas.

1) Wearing a helmet doesn't make you one of something that also wears it. For all we know, the Recon helmet may not have been originally Spartan anyway. After all, the ODST helmet was originally donned by, guess who, the ODST. It could be yet another helm that was originally worn by someone else that was adopted by the spartan program, (heck, the Hayabusa helmet was worn by a ninja in another game, but that's beside the point.)

2) Another theory of her being a spartan is the whole (classified) fiasco. The explanation for that is that she's an operative of ONI or some project the ODST are up to, not because she's a spartan that they don't want people to know about, after all, the spartan program did go public so... But then again, she could have deleted her own files on purpose, OR, Bungie simply didn't want us to know -Blam!- about her, to keep us guessing about the game.

3)She's not wearing Mjolnir amor. Now, I entirely realize that this is no reason for her not to be a spartan, as I'm sure a spartan could do fine even without super-armor, but I'm simply stating that, by the book, every spartan was outfitted with said armor and liked it. This makes it unlikely, yet easily possible, that she could've ditched the armor, I just don't think that's the case. Then again, she could've been a select few not to wear it.

4) In the trailer, the ODST seemed fairly calm with her. As far as I know, the ODST have a strong resentment to spartans, whether it be chief or any other. Once again though, there could me many explanations for it.

5) Oversized head? I don't know what your talking about, looking at it and thinking hard about it, you have to realize that the helmet looks dis-porportionate because we are used to seeing a helmet AND the armor, making one solid, fluid figure. In this case though, she seems to have a thinner suit on, making her helmet look slightly (but not as much as everyone exadggerates) big.

That's my logic here, but I do want to know what you think of this. If you have any LOGIC, not random spam saying "of course she is/isn't a spartan you big dummy!", please post it.

EDIT 1: I think I figured out why her head may look slightly oversized in addition to my other theory. ALot of people refer to a video where the camera rotates around her. But if you notice, the camera is at somewhat of a high, angled um....angle. Of course things closer to the camera in and uneven angle such as this will seem bigger than something that is farther away, even if it's one object and it's not that big.

[Edited on 06.03.2009 10:41 PM PDT]

  • 06.03.2009 9:51 PM PDT
Subject: DARE- spartan or not?

i think no, but bungie is sneaky and she could be.

  • 06.03.2009 9:54 PM PDT

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ummm.wow...are people actually reading, or do yall just like to vote? lol either way, cool

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  • 06.03.2009 9:55 PM PDT

I am not interested in joining your group.

please use the search bar. if you wanted to say she wasnt a spartan, post in a pre-existing topic, not create your own. that way more people see your ideas

  • 06.03.2009 9:58 PM PDT

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No. Just no. Dare isn't a Spartan. If anyone is, it's Buck.

  • 06.03.2009 9:59 PM PDT
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No, Bungie already stated that she isn't a spartan plus this is during the H2 timeline and MC was the only spartan around and still fighting for the U.N.S.C.

  • 06.03.2009 9:59 PM PDT

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Why do you think ODST resent Spartans? I thought the other military revered them.

Maybe she is Jan James the child of a Spartan 1.0? or Maria 62?(a retired Spartan)

Maybe she is a 1.1 recruited by ONI?

read my post, titled "Perhaps Dare is..."

You should have a maybe option in your quiz.

  • 06.03.2009 10:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: dante144
Why do you think ODST resent Spartans? I thought the other military revered them.

Maybe she is Jan James the child of a Spartan 1.0? or Maria 62?(a retired Spartan)

Maybe she is a 1.1 recruited by ONI?

read my post, titled "Perhaps Dare is..."

You should have a maybe option in your quiz.


The reason I say this is because if you read the books, you should read several scenes in which the ODST (not all military men) resent them. Not all though, mostly a particular officar, a few in a fight with chief who spread rumors, and those who think thier freaks.

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  • 06.03.2009 10:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: turd93
please use the search bar. if you wanted to say she wasnt a spartan, post in a pre-existing topic, not create your own. that way more people see your ideas


I'm sorry, I didn't know about this, but thanks for telling me, I might be able to use it in the future.

  • 06.03.2009 10:05 PM PDT
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my gt is Godzillla....i just didnt link it properly

shes not , spartans are uge check the chick out in the graphic novel ...huge

  • 06.03.2009 10:06 PM PDT

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oh, I think I remember that. I just started reading the first book again, but what your talking about is in The Flood, right?

Haven't got there again, yet.

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If anybody here read Ghosts of Onyx, just let me say this...

Spartan III

Probably not what's really going on, but it gets some thoughts going.

  • 06.03.2009 10:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: GodZillla
shes not , spartans are uge check the chick out in the graphic novel ...huge


You have a good point there, I forgot about the size thing, they truely are giants aren't they?

  • 06.03.2009 10:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: Forlorn Solitude
If anybody here read Ghosts of Onyx, just let me say this...

Spartan III

Probably not what's really going on, but it gets some thoughts going.


And here we have a perfect example of the logic I spoke of. No one thought of the spartans III's. Yes, I have read the book (loved it), however I forgot about that. Though, if you think about it, most of them died did they not? I guess there should be some alive though.


VERY GOOD POINT. thank you.

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Posted by: Forlorn Solitude
If anybody here read Ghosts of Onyx, just let me say this...

Spartan III

Probably not what's really going on, but it gets some thoughts going.


And here we have a perfect example of the logic I spoke of. No one thought of the spartans III's. Yes, I have read the book (loved it), however I forgot about that. Though, if you think about it, most of them died did they not? I guess there should be some alive though.


VERY GOOD POINT. thank you.
Yeah, the Spartan IIIs weren't huge or genetically enhanced... more so just had the training and a little bit more advanced equipment (nothing like MJOLNIR armor, though).

  • 06.03.2009 10:12 PM PDT
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I Think Dare is a part an ONI because to refresh your memory, Bungie also made ONI

  • 06.03.2009 10:12 PM PDT

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Posted by: Meretrixxx
I Think Dare is a part an ONI because to refresh your memory, Bungie also made ONI



I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say. You mean she's from another game? please respond.

Plus, (just in case) I was refering to a...I guess you could say company, more like military division of sorts....maybey government, but whatever you want to call it, it is in Halo, AKA ONI section III

  • 06.03.2009 10:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: Major Sangheili
shes ONI and classified...which means Bungie is hiding SOMETHING!

As i have mentioned this before, Bungie is ALWAYS hiding something, Like if your mother was having an affair. You know she is, but she will never tell you.

About ONI, Here is the Plot for ONI my source for this is wikipedia ( i did not feel like typing all this.)
"The action of Oni takes place around the year 2032. The game world is a dystopia, an Earth so polluted that little of it remains habitable. To solve unspecified international economic crises, all nations have combined into a single entity, the World Coalition Government. The government is Orwellian, telling the populace that what are actually dangerously toxic regions are wilderness preserves, and using the Technological Crimes Task Force, its secret police, to spy on citizens and suppress opposition. The player character, code-named Konoko (voiced by Amanda Winn-Lee), full name later given as Mai Hasegawa, begins the game working for the police. Soon, she learns her employers have been keeping secrets about her past from her. She turns against them as she embarks on a quest of self-discovery. The player learns more about her family and origins while battling both the Technological Crimes Task Force and its greatest enemy, the equally monolithic criminal organization called the Syndicate. In the game's climax, Konoko discovers a Syndicate plan to cause the Atmospheric Conversion Centers, air-treatment plants necessary to keep most of the world's population alive, to catastrophically malfunction. She is partially successful in thwarting the plot, saving a portion of humanity." - Wikipedia

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  • 06.03.2009 10:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: Meretrixxx
Posted by: Major Sangheili
shes ONI and classified...which means Bungie is hiding SOMETHING!

As i have mentioned this before, Bungie is ALWAYS hiding something, Like if your mother was having an affair. You know she is, but she will never tell you.

About ONI, Here is the Plot for ONI my source for this is wikipedia ( i did not feel like typing all this.)
"The action of Oni takes place around the year 2032. The game world is a dystopia, an Earth so polluted that little of it remains habitable. To solve unspecified international economic crises, all nations have combined into a single entity, the World Coalition Government. The government is Orwellian, telling the populace that what are actually dangerously toxic regions are wilderness preserves, and using the Technological Crimes Task Force, its secret police, to spy on citizens and suppress opposition. The player character, code-named Konoko (voiced by Amanda Winn-Lee), full name later given as Mai Hasegawa, begins the game working for the police. Soon, she learns her employers have been keeping secrets about her past from her. She turns against them as she embarks on a quest of self-discovery. The player learns more about her family and origins while battling both the Technological Crimes Task Force and its greatest enemy, the equally monolithic criminal organization called the Syndicate. In the game's climax, Konoko discovers a Syndicate plan to cause the Atmospheric Conversion Centers, air-treatment plants necessary to keep most of the world's population alive, to catastrophically malfunction. She is partially successful in thwarting the plot, saving a portion of humanity." - Wikipedia


Wow...Didn't know that. As a matter of fact, I really don't know anything about Bungies old games so....

  • 06.03.2009 10:22 PM PDT

Confirmed by Bungie and Halo.Wikia that she is NOT a Spartan.

Halo.Wikia- Dare

  • 06.03.2009 10:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: LordOfBlah51
Confirmed by Bungie and Halo.Wikia that she is NOT a Spartan.

Halo.Wikia- Dare


I Knew It!!

Then this thread is finished, Bon Voyage everyone, for I probably won't be visiting this again, Though I wish I could lock it, but i dont know how

  • 06.03.2009 10:38 PM PDT