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Subject: Weekly What's Update

Xbox 360: Might be backward compatible, might not.
Might be $299 with basic setup (single controller, console, connection wires, headset), might be up to $499 with extras included (more than one controller, maybe a pretty Xbox Live package, maybe a game or three, who knows?).
For more information, the forums at xbox.com might be worth browsing, as this forum thread is for the Bungie Weekly What's Update.

Halo 3: Gates says it'll release when PS3 does. Is there even an official release date for that yet? Sony?
Another Halo 3 possibility: Bungie will let a third party (or a different first party) company make the game. After what they did with 2, would anyone care if a different company wanted to try round 3?

Next week's update: How about a few more new map screenshots, and the suggestion that "Team killer (or "Betrayer")" and "Supreme moron" may be added as feedback options?

Thanks for putting up with our crap, Frankie.

  • 05.16.2005 7:33 PM PDT
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Hey what if you dont cheat and people leave say 10 mins of cheating feedback would you still get banned? And i got 25 wins in a row and i am a 17 and i didnt go to an 18 i should be a 20 by now whats up with that?




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  • 05.16.2005 7:33 PM PDT
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hey romanzam i looked at ur friend x F L 4 N K x and i know wat u mean he played 15 h2h games in a row that were no longer than 2 mins. a piece some were only 1 min. which is kinda weird considering the fact that it is the hardest to find 1 person while playin h2h.

  • 05.16.2005 7:39 PM PDT
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I'd just like to say for whoever talked about containment he's right. THere's only a tank and a warthog on the whole entire MAP!!!. Put the banshee in, and if bungie is afraid of peopel going outside the map cant u guys just update and close it? We need some more vehicles in that map. Like maybe a ghost and a banshee. Make it like waterworks. This map is big add more vehicles.

  • 05.16.2005 7:52 PM PDT
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LVL 18 Yaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 05.16.2005 8:48 PM PDT
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New Question For Next Week..... LOOK HERE!!!

Ok so Mr. Bill Gates said that When Playstation 3 Comes Out Sony Will Be Slaped in the face by Halo 3... True or false? Let us not forget Bill Gates Said It
And if its true then it would have to come out next january 06'

please put this in the update you will of rocked my world ;)

  • 05.16.2005 9:14 PM PDT
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I think there should be a thing where when ure teammate leaves u get damage resistencea and extra damage. I hadn't been able to play on live for a while and when I started playing again last weekend I was at lvl 1 because of the stat resets and even as I grew a few lvls in double team my teammates kept leaving right as the game starts because they think I suck really bad but really I'm as good or better than them but I lose anyway because its 2 on 1.
I REALLY hate leavers. I think u should address this problem.

[Edited on 5/16/2005]

  • 05.16.2005 11:33 PM PDT
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hay bungie there are some other countries other than USA!!!!!
can you please make some competitions for other countries!!!!
such as the master chief statue or limited edtion gold warthog competitions becuase i love halo just as much as people in USA and yet i dont get any of the same privileges :(

i dont think it would be too hard to make some competitions for other countries, downunder(NZ) represent!!!!

and also will the next new maps come out for download before the disk????

also i heard that halo3 (and dont say there is no halo3 cos i know there is!!!!!) was going 2 come out only on xbox 360 and not the 1st xbox and i know alot of people (me) that cant aford a new xbox so they will not beable to play halo3!!!!

PLEASE MAKE HALO3 FOR XBOX1 AS WELL AS XBOX360 :)

cheers franki

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Posted by: Osiris 116
Exactly, i am always matched up with people that will quit within the first 3 minutes of the game... is makes me sooo mad! And when we are down by only 3-4 kills, one will ALWAYS QUIT! its annoying! there needs to be a feedback for quiting. like he siad, if they cant play it out, dont start it.


I never quit a game because I have not killed anyone, or the team are losing, I do quit when I'm getting serious lagging issues, have a rubbish game type appear (in my opinion) e.g. Team Snipers, or am getting bossed around by someone who actually thinks that they are leading some kind of military campaign - I don't want the hassle of being killed/not being able to kill anyone from lagging, play a game type that i don't enjoy, or join the virtual 'army'. I play Halo to have fun - and if I get banned from quitters feedback I'd be seriously annoyed. Admittedly the Team Snipers Quitting is down to me, but if I can't play because of lag/or am getting hassled/sworn at I think I should be able to quit without getting punished for it.

To add to this, I agree with halo 2 live gamers when they called for a configurable optimatch, I'd like to be able to choose "Classic Team Slayer" as a match option for optimatch matchmaking where you get default maps with default options/weapons.

  • 05.17.2005 4:09 AM PDT
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Frankie....
I was just wondering....
On the xbox site it shows a list of their partners, and their games.... i see no mention of Halo or Bungie.... ??? Im scared!

  • 05.17.2005 4:59 AM PDT
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You have not heard anything about bungie or halo because bungie is owned by MS. Since MS is there and talking, Halo and Bungie were not added as part of display.

  • 05.17.2005 6:42 AM PDT
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Just so you know, in the event that you can get a xbox 360, it is backwards compatable. So there is really no reason to make it for the original xbox. Why would they want to when you can play all xbox games on the 360. I mean seriously think about it. Ask whoever your with to give you an allowance and save that money for the big 360. thats what I plan on doing.

  • 05.17.2005 6:46 AM PDT
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Posted by: super saijen
I was told the xbox 360 was going to be like $300. is this true, because i really dont have that kind of money. and, will xbox 360 have Live on it, because i love playing xbox live a lot, and i dont want it to be just multiplayer and campaign. it would suck!. i would play the Halo 3 campaign mode at least once or twice, but i want to be able to play against other people all over the world, and hopefully be able too find my friends on it too. and please at least add some new vehicles and some more weapons, like gatlin gun or somethin! PLEASE LIVE UP TO MY EXPECTATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK FOR???????

my gamertag, stickdeath91
my clan, NSW


$300??? That's too much? I mean, do you have any idea what most of that equipment would cost to put in a PC??? Are you out of your mind? $300 is one hell of a deal for a box that does MORE than just a normal console.

  • 05.17.2005 6:57 AM PDT
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Posted by: EP1TAPH
Unfortunately, I've heard that 360 will almost be $500. Which is the price of a low-quality laptop - BUT STILL A LAPTOP! Except it's a low-quality laptop you can only play games and put music on. Good god.... How much better can gaming get than xbox other than an actual PC? NOT MUCH! Microsoft should just keep updating xbox like it's been doing instead of forcing players to spend half a grand on a new gaming consol.

Xbox pretty much has unlimited memory and top of the line graphics. Not to mention the most resources via the its producer Microsoft. PS3 will sell tenfold what 360 will simply because its Sony which is Japan-marketed. Microsoft gets most its sales in America and Europe. Sony gets world wide. The PS3 consol will sell more than 360 hands down.

I hate Sony, but it's a fact. Now, instead of attempting to out do them in sales (especially with a $500 consol) just MAKE BETTER GAMES. The only reason people buy Xbox is for Halo. I wonder why people will buy 360 then? Oh yeah, release H3 on it and force a spending of roughly $600 to beat Sony in annual income! I forsee broken dreams and broken hearts in 2006.

Like MS doesn't have enough money as it is... instead of making more, just build a fan base. Between a $600 investment of a consol and one game (not to mention a possible new live subscription?) and whatever Sony will dish out worldwide for half the price - who's going to win?


M$ didn't really create the Xbox for profit. In fact, they made little to no profit in Xbox sales. The point of the Xbox was to get a hold in the industry, so that when they made the next console, people knew they had what it took to get it done in the console business. The Xbox is old. People don't follow the same thinking that caused the video game crash in the early 80's. Consoles have to keep evolving, or the market will crawl to a stand-still.

As far as good games are concerned, M$ has been making a HELL of a lot of new deals with game developers now for the 360. They were holding back on that as well for the next console. Everything they did when they released the Xbox was a pretense to the 360, when Microsoft would actually try to become #1.

You watch, they're gonna do it. Because their market research is absolutely -blam!- ingenious.

  • 05.17.2005 7:04 AM PDT
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Okay, Listen Xbox and Halo 2 are the 2 most awesome things in the entire world. Also, Foundation complainers I think the map is swesome it is sorta balanced and there are 2 rockets btw if you have a BR on the map rockets can easily be taken care of same with sword and turrent whores can be taken care of by picking up plasma nades from middle of map and sticking them you get a kill and a nifty little medal too. For people who hate sword whore as I do but I love the sword it is one of the coolest weapons on the map and most ppl love to have it in their hands anyway. You can take care of swords ppl by being a better Halo 2 player and learning how to deal with those ppl like i like the "n00b" combo it is effecient ,and most ppl who hate the n00b combo dont like it because they dont see how ppl can use it so well. If you dont want to have to pull up 20 kills more that you need to in a TS or DT have friends with you and make sure they're okay at the least because I hate playing a ranked match with my friend, who isnt very good, and have to get 35 kills in one match just to show the other team im worthy of their time. Well I just got to page four of this topic and I'm sure xbox360 is still being worked on to satisfy the consumer

  • 05.17.2005 7:25 AM PDT
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Posted by: hOt ThE cHuNk610
erm, when u talk about the fuel rod cannon being too powerful, that doesnt really say much. there are also many other weapons much more powerful than the fuel rod cannon. The rocket launcher is fast, with 1 hit kills, and the plasma pistol takes down shields in 1 hit, and u can duel wield it. Yes, things u already know. But if u said that the fuel rod cannon would hurt/damage/kill the balance of weps in halo2 multiplayer, well id have to say "BUNGIE, YOUR WRONG!!!" 1st off, it doesnt lock onto things, although it has 6 shots per clip and it shoots at a fast rate. These are not things you cant change, and even if it did *disturb* the balance of weapons, i think that people wouldnt care as much as long as they have it available. O YEA, DID U GUYS FORGET OR SOMETHING??? Y NOT JUST PUT IT AS A WEAPON U CAN ACCESS IN A CUSTOM GAME??? HUH??? SERIOUSLY!!! U KNOW, KINDA LIKE THE SETINEL BEAM?!?! id say many,many more people that play halo2 could care less if it disturbed the o-so-sacred weapon balance than the ones that would oppress this. PLEASE, MAKE THIS A QUESTION IN UR NEXT WEEKLY UPDATE!

Another question, y does the shotgun suc? i mean, shouldnt technology IMPROVE over the course of 500 years, not decrease??? just a little bit more range, speed, and power to it. i mean cmon!!! a battle rifler can kill you before you can fire 2 shots off of your shotgun, (with an easy experiment i found this out.) again PLEASE ANSWER THIS AT THE NEXT WEEKLY UPDATE, BECAUSE *MANY* PEOPLE WOULD LOVE TO KNOW!!! thanx a lot BUNGIE.


Okay, first of all, the fuel rod cannon has TWO problems:
1. Bungie feels that it disrupts weapon balance
2. It's a graphics HOG!

The first is pretty much all I heard you on, but you made some good points. They should allow it for custom games. If it didn't kill Xboxes. Unfortunately, nobody but Bungie will know how severe that is. Since they developed the game, I'm going to take their word for it.

Secondly, the shotgun does NOT SUCK. Trigger, melee, trigger, melee. When you're playing CTF or Assault defense, there are few quicker kills. Since the weapon balance update, it's only gotten better. Close-quarters fighting with the shotgun is hard to match, even with a sword. Having a shotgun on D on Coagulation when the rest of my team quit out on me was the only time in Halo 2 that I got a killimanjaro. It's a POWERFUL weapon, especially if you're the one getting the drop on people. They usually don't have time to react, I don't care what weapon they're using. If you can't snipe with it, don't snipe with it. Pretty freakin' simple.

  • 05.17.2005 7:29 AM PDT
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Posted by: Freezerflame
I'd just like to say for whoever talked about containment he's right. THere's only a tank and a warthog on the whole entire MAP!!!. Put the banshee in, and if bungie is afraid of peopel going outside the map cant u guys just update and close it? We need some more vehicles in that map. Like maybe a ghost and a banshee. Make it like waterworks. This map is big add more vehicles.


You should read my reply to the guy. He's wrong. The warthog respawns too quickly to -blam!- about it, and I've had a few moments already where I have to race the enemy flag to my base on foot, while they have our flag in a warthog, and I've BEAT THEM!!! The map is a LOT smaller than everyone thinks it is. What would a banshee or ghost add to the map? Two more people at their base in a matter of expediency, right? And what are they going to do? Sit in their -blam!- vehicles, exactly. Whereas having few vehicles promotes the use of the various tunnels in and out of the base, which is the main attraction to Containment, not giving the Scorpion more -blam!- to blow up.

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Posted by: Predator Butaro
Just so you know, in the event that you can get a xbox 360, it is backwards compatable. So there is really no reason to make it for the original xbox. Why would they want to when you can play all xbox games on the 360. I mean seriously think about it. Ask whoever your with to give you an allowance and save that money for the big 360. thats what I plan on doing.


Whoever told you that the 360 would be backwards compatible needs a punch in the nose for lying to you. They use completely different hardware. Most console games are kinda like the Gentoo OS on the PC, they are VERY hardware specific. That's why the Xbox and other consoles are able to produce such damn fine games with very little power. The 360 has some impressive power, no doubt, but unless the games were made to be specific to both boxes, I don't see this happening.

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I have been looking at some mods and I would like to bring up the issue of variation in gameplay once more (grenades and melee damage recently). I am not a modder and disagree with it but it interests me because of some things I saw done with it.

I was looking on halogt.com and I saw a jackal shield dual wielded, this is such a great idea, not only does it bring another dimension to the game but it also could be balanced, as only one other dual wielding weapon could be held at the same time, and the shield could be destoyed by a charged plasma shot say. Although bungie reputes that new 'weapons' cannot be added to the game, to me this seems a great idea.

Even the idea of a fuel rod gun also makes sense, even if only for customs. This was also used in the mods and it didn't affect the frame rate whatsoever, I don't know if this relates to the xbox being altered but surely bungie could do something about the 'frame rate' if they took an interest, perhaps they could do it for free considering they're charging us for new maps.

Just a few thoughts on weapons.

P.S. is this where the questions for the bungie update come from?

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  • 05.17.2005 7:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: Thawmus
Posted by: Predator Butaro
Just so you know, in the event that you can get a xbox 360, it is backwards compatable. So there is really no reason to make it for the original xbox. Why would they want to when you can play all xbox games on the 360. I mean seriously think about it. Ask whoever your with to give you an allowance and save that money for the big 360. thats what I plan on doing.


Whoever told you that the 360 would be backwards compatible needs a punch in the nose for lying to you. They use completely different hardware. Most console games are kinda like the Gentoo OS on the PC, they are VERY hardware specific. That's why the Xbox and other consoles are able to produce such damn fine games with very little power. The 360 has some impressive power, no doubt, but unless the games were made to be specific to both boxes, I don't see this happening.


You're both wrong.

Microsoft has confirmed that it WILL be backwards compatibile. Check out sources like xbox360.ign.com for details.

However, it won't support ALL previous titles, only "top sellers". The Xbox360 will include "optimized emulation" precompiled on the HDD for titles which Microsoft will pick and choose.

  • 05.17.2005 8:16 AM PDT
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Call me an idiot all you like, but what the heck is the game that's being delayed til July 5? I'm so engrossed in Halo 2 I'm not aware of anything coming out soon.

  • 05.17.2005 8:52 AM PDT
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but guys there are fricking 5 new maps coming out so hold your cars this will be better than ... well mabye not better i don't even know what saying i just don't want to be let down so mabye its blam! ing good i don't know so i guess this is just gonna be awseome

  • 05.17.2005 9:45 AM PDT
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I'm having a problem with getting online it just won't get through at all and if I do get online with Halo2 I would be stuck in match making and won't let me play at all so can some one help me

  • 05.17.2005 9:46 AM PDT
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I made the mistake of playing during the weekend when all the little kiddies are out. I played 25 games and over 60% had people quitting out. I had to sit though 10 minute games where we thrashed it up on some poor soul who was left behind. Conversely, my team would get killed by quitters. It is not fun. Now, I leave CHEATING feedback on them but that is not right.

Bungie you said you would ban quitters. Please talk to Xbox-live and get a quitter feedback option.

Another option would be to punish quitters by enforcing a 5min stand-down. If you have a legitimate reason to quit, 5min will not matter as you have to go anyhow. But if they are a sad little @^%$#^%# quitters 5min will make them stick it out.

kiwiofdeath

  • 05.17.2005 10:20 AM PDT
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Wait, someone called Microsoft "M$" and then said they didn't market the xbox to make money? ha... I'm confused....

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  • 05.17.2005 10:23 AM PDT