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Hey guys, I know this is random, but does any1 know where i could find out how to play a simplified version of the halo theme tune on keyboard?
I've looked on the internet but can't find anything. I'd be really gratefull if someone could get it for me.
7hanks, Elite_44

  • 05.17.2005 10:24 AM PDT
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Bungie,
Epitaph Asks:

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Can't you remove the "leave game" option? How about the only way to quit a game is by turning off your system. That way people don't quit and quit and quit, it becomes less attractive to have to "re-boot." Either that or disable gameplay for the duration of the game a quitter just left. Say someone left the game because they're selfish with 10mins remaining. Make it so that person can't play for 10 minutes. This way quitting is also unappealing.

I understand sometimes there's emergencies such as lag or maybe some of the younger players get yelled at by their parents or something, in which case they can simply turn off the machine and do whatever it is they have to do. If a player quits, however, their score should become erased. Say they went 8 and 10 then quit... take 8 kills away from their own team and 10 kills away from the opposing team. Sure it will be 3 on 4, but erasing the score would be very good (especially since 8 and 10 is unlikely to quit, where as 4 and 16 would)

2.
Also, I just started a new clan with some friends and we were level 1 and were matched up against a clan that was level 8. Are you serious? Granted we are not actually level 1 players and beat the other team, but I feel bad for the people who are!

3.
Furthermore, there should be a 3-strike policy for betrayals. Especially with the new powerful grenades. And for you people who boot the person who betrayed you, respawn and ask why first. It was probably a mistake and instead of making teams uneven, just realize there is FF in Halo, and not everyone is out to get you.

4.
Lastly, is glitching or super-bouncing considered cheating? Afterall, anyone can do it so it doesn't pose an unfair advantage. I just don't want to be fedback as cheating simply because I didn't know.

  • 05.17.2005 10:30 AM PDT
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Posted by: EP1TAPH
Wait, someone called Microsoft "M$" and then said they didn't market the xbox to make money? ha... I'm confused....


Ok, then let me unconfuse you. They plan to make a lot of money this time around, pretty much the same way they made a lot of money with windows. They're going to make a console that will almost be a STANDARD in the american household, just like they did for the american business. They made the first Xbox just to get a hold in the market, not to trounce the competition and make a lot of money. They'll make more than enough to make up for it all this time around. They didn't make so much money to be garnered as "M$" from being idiots. Right now, they have a PC that only THEY can make, that the average american household can afford, that has installed software only THEY sell, that employs only services that THEY can offer, and the only other people that make software that can be used on it (games), have to go through them to do it. It's Gates' wet dream. If you thought Microsoft Windows was monopolistic, you'd better hope that the 360 doesn't trounce the competition, which I think it will. Taking a profit loss with the Xbox? A fine dust that will blow away over the next 5 years.

Marketing product isn't always about making money. You should take a few economics classes. You might be surprised to find out about all the OTHER things big companies go after in order to make money in the LONG RUN. Market share, for one, is almost as important, especially when you're entering an industry where your competitors have a FIRM foothold. And now Microsoft has that market share. They aren't Sony, they aren't Nintendo, but they boast the best damn graphics console still today, and the best damn online service for console gaming. And they are going to TROUNCE the competition because of those two strengths.

Who cares about a past loss when you have a monopoly?

  • 05.17.2005 11:09 AM PDT
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Posted by: EP1TAPH
Bungie,
Epitaph Asks:

1.
Can't you remove the "leave game" option? How about the only way to quit a game is by turning off your system. That way people don't quit and quit and quit, it becomes less attractive to have to "re-boot." Either that or disable gameplay for the duration of the game a quitter just left. Say someone left the game because they're selfish with 10mins remaining. Make it so that person can't play for 10 minutes. This way quitting is also unappealing.

I understand sometimes there's emergencies such as lag or maybe some of the younger players get yelled at by their parents or something, in which case they can simply turn off the machine and do whatever it is they have to do. If a player quits, however, their score should become erased. Say they went 8 and 10 then quit... take 8 kills away from their own team and 10 kills away from the opposing team. Sure it will be 3 on 4, but erasing the score would be very good (especially since 8 and 10 is unlikely to quit, where as 4 and 16 would)

2.
Also, I just started a new clan with some friends and we were level 1 and were matched up against a clan that was level 8. Are you serious? Granted we are not actually level 1 players and beat the other team, but I feel bad for the people who are!

3.
Furthermore, there should be a 3-strike policy for betrayals. Especially with the new powerful grenades. And for you people who boot the person who betrayed you, respawn and ask why first. It was probably a mistake and instead of making teams uneven, just realize there is FF in Halo, and not everyone is out to get you.

4.
Lastly, is glitching or super-bouncing considered cheating? Afterall, anyone can do it so it doesn't pose an unfair advantage. I just don't want to be fedback as cheating simply because I didn't know.


1. I agree 95%. I disagree with removing the "leave game option". There are plenty of legitimate excuses for just leaving a game without turning off your xbox. Lag, betraying members of your team, glitchers, cheaters, standbyers. All usually cause ME to quit, and I plan on playing another game right after that. If I have to turn on my xbox, the experience will completely put me off of Halo that night. And I'm a pretty hard-core gamer. Imagine what casual gamers would go through. But I agree something needs to be done. I think quitter feedback needs to be in place.

But I also think that Bungie needs to do something they haven't done yet with the banhammer. They need to publicize it. People think that nobody gets banned, and that's why they keep dicking around online. Bungie needs to start spewing numbers, and putting up a list of names. Then when people see the number of banned people fly by each day, then they might have a LITTLE more faith in the feedback system, and a little less faith in cheating.

2. I know, those levels are pissing me off. And not just in clanmatches, either. Every now and then I've played against people that are 7 levels below or above me. Make the skill levels more even? Are you serious???

3. I think your 3-strike policy is sound, though I'd want to take it a step further, by removing the boot option for players. People are griefing with it, shooting at their teammates without killing them, until their teammates retaliate, kill them, and then get booted by the GRIEFER!! That's not -blam!- right!!! And your example is sound enough. It's happened to me several times. I played a team rockets game, and I got booted. I mean, seriously, how can you hold your teammates THAT accountable in a ROCKETS game????

4. As far as I'm concerned, it's cheating, and I leave feedback when I see it. If I see people on the roof on Zanzibar, I leave feedback all the time. They shouldn't be up there. Everyone CAN do it, if they're TAUGHT how to do it, and specifically TRY to do it. That's where Bungie draws the line. It's taking advantage of a bug in the game.

  • 05.17.2005 11:25 AM PDT
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I read a post containing information on why you wouldn't want a fuelrod gun, because it is too powerful. Why don't you put it on maps that are cov. game types and replace the rockets with the fuel rod? you wanted balance, well there you go.

  • 05.17.2005 12:06 PM PDT
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You mentioned in the main update that people purposly getting negative kills will be punished while you will lose no experience... (i think). Is that gonna go the same way because most of the Team Slayer games i play i roll out 20 to 30 kills while the rest of my team cant finish up... Is there some way you could make it not to punish the best player of the losing team if he/she gets more kills than anyone on the winning team?

  • 05.17.2005 12:24 PM PDT
Subject: Weekly What's Update
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You are full of crap to not mention Halo 2 for Xbox 360 or Halo 3. Even if they say you can't their are ways around that. Wasn't Halo for Apple? Whatever happened to your rebellious senses? You guys have been working on Xenon development kits for over a year now. Say something or may you have your fingers cut off for useless typing.

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  • 05.17.2005 12:29 PM PDT
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wat i want to know is will halo2 be for xbox360 and will halo3 be for xbox 1

  • 05.17.2005 1:08 PM PDT
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bungie you suck i got booted from 10 gam,es strate for no reason i playing well and were aboutto win and then i just randomly get booted itrust yoru smart enough to fix this problem
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  • 05.17.2005 2:16 PM PDT

The Beatles kickass.
Also, I probably hate you.

In the first question, what is "The Game" you are talking about? Sorry, I am dumb...

  • 05.17.2005 2:20 PM PDT
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if any posible way give us some info on xbox 360 or maybe even a picture

  • 05.17.2005 2:23 PM PDT
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Thawmus, with reguards to your reply

Sure, with glitches you have to learn how and have to try at them... but doesn't that go for sniping well? for sticking? for making critical jumps? Most bounces (other than that hard as hell Ascension one) are a pretty simple concept and once you DO learn how it doesnt take much special skill to do at all. Besides, if anyone asks "How'd you do that" I invite them to my party and show them after the match on what ever map I bounced. I try not to make it secret because then it IS an unfair advantage.

Also, there's more ways (2 i know, 3 maybe) to get on top of the power base in Zanzibar other than bouncing, the two I know involve grenade jumping. I'd be mad if i was fedback for grenade jumping. :-\

Furthermore, I agree with your proposal to disable player-controled booting. It should be done by Bungie givin guidelines such as how many shot overall were shot at a person and so on, if that's possible. What's your gamertag?

  • 05.17.2005 2:41 PM PDT
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there you go bungie i just got dropped again are you guys really messed up in your head or can you ac tually solve a problem i hope you can ireally do

  • 05.17.2005 2:41 PM PDT
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hey

  • 05.17.2005 3:08 PM PDT
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hey ya

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hey EP1TAPH, how do you get on top of the power building in Zanzibar, because i saw someone do that while i was at Camp Froman( the sniper spot), and i have been very curious of knowing how to get up there????? please reply!!!

  • 05.17.2005 3:43 PM PDT
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Posted by: Thawmus
Posted by: Freezerflame
I'd just like to say for whoever talked about containment he's right. THere's only a tank and a warthog on the whole entire MAP!!!. Put the banshee in, and if bungie is afraid of peopel going outside the map cant u guys just update and close it? We need some more vehicles in that map. Like maybe a ghost and a banshee. Make it like waterworks. This map is big add more vehicles.


You should read my reply to the guy. He's wrong. The warthog respawns too quickly to -blam!- about it, and I've had a few moments already where I have to race the enemy flag to my base on foot, while they have our flag in a warthog, and I've BEAT THEM!!! The map is a LOT smaller than everyone thinks it is. What would a banshee or ghost add to the map? Two more people at their base in a matter of expediency, right? And what are they going to do? Sit in their -blam!- vehicles, exactly. Whereas having few vehicles promotes the use of the various tunnels in and out of the base, which is the main attraction to Containment, not giving the Scorpion more -blam!- to blow up.



I cant really comment on the warthog spawn issue, dont know that much about that issue.

Now I dont want to sound rude or anything, but you were able to beat a warthog to the base??? You said you beat them to your base? what kind of CTF was this? Did the hog flip or something?? I mean the warthog vs someone running shouldnt be much of a contest. If you were able to do it, I give you props. But honestly, how often do you think someone would be able to do that? Even Frankie said it takes 30 seconds to get from one side to the other, I dont think it takes a hog that long.

I still dont understand why it was removed. or even if a ghost would be added, that would be a plus (though I think a banshee would be better suited).

If it was removed due to being used for sniping, look at the other levels with the Banshee (Coagulation - has banshee snipe point, Waterworks - has banshee snipe point, Headlong - assume there is a banshee snipe point). So that point is mute...also if that was the reason, why not have it so its impossible to get to the snipe points to begin with??

my big reason of wanting it back is for reasons like CTF, if the flag gets to a warthog, I feel that this would be best way to try and get your flag back (even though you said you beat the hog to the base, I wont dismiss that, but honestly what are the odds of that happening?)

As for giving Scorpions more things to blow up, If a Banshee can dodge rockets (which can lock on), I'd beleive they would be able to dodge cannon fire

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Posted by: .[/quote]3. I think your 3-strike policy is sound, though I'd want to take it a step further, by removing the boot option for players. People are griefing with it, shooting at their teammates without killing them, until their teammates retaliate, kill them, and then get booted by the GRIEFER!! That's not -blam!- right!!! And your example is sound enough. It's happened to me several times. I played a team rockets game, and I got booted. I mean, seriously, how can you hold your teammates THAT accountable in a ROCKETS game????
DUDE I TOTALLY AGREE!!! i get booted all the time what seems out of nowhere and i realize i accidently 'naded a teamate or shot at him as he came around a corner with no shield by ACCIDENT. that 3 strike rule would rule! w/e bungie has changed in the booting is really f'd up.

  • 05.17.2005 3:45 PM PDT
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Posted by: Canada05
I read a post containing information on why you wouldn't want a fuelrod gun, because it is too powerful. Why don't you put it on maps that are cov. game types and replace the rockets with the fuel rod? you wanted balance, well there you go.

I know im kinda restating myself, but ur exactly right. the fuel rod cannon doesnt lock onto things, although it is faster and has 6 per clip, but still, i wouldn't say the rocket isn't strong because that would be a lie. anyways, i bet nobody online would have a fit if u put in the fuel rod cannon on covenant game types or at least make it a weapon like the setinel beam, because the brute shot sux, no matter how hard u try it still blows. The fuel rod cannon can compare to the rocket launcher, not the brute shot and all its misory. GET IT RIGHT BUNGIE!!! WE WANT FUEL ROD CANNON! WE WANT FUEL ROD CANNON! Y DONT WE HAVE FUEL ROD CANNON! AHHHHHHH!

  • 05.17.2005 3:49 PM PDT
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ALL RIGHT!!!! now there are finally some people screaming my language! on campaign mode, i am awsome with the fuel rod cannon, i can nail some poor soul of a grunt if i wanted to,( but i probably wouldnt fire fuel rods at a grunt, it would use up precious ammo.) but when it comes to elites, jackals,(big groups)brutes, or bombing-run banshees( or any other vehicle for that matter), they are toast!!!!!i say, THE FUEL ROD CANNON IS PROBABLY THE FUNNEST WEAPON OF ALL!!!!!!!( it is great for expirementing too!!!)

  • 05.17.2005 4:04 PM PDT
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HEY!!!!!!! instead of the ROCKETS gametype, we could have a FUEL ROD gametype, or RUMBLE RODS!!!!!!! or we could have some FUEL DUELS for double team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OR EVEN BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!........................

NEUTRAL FLAG FEUL RODS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it would give a major twist to the sucky neutral flag, making halo 2 A WHOLE LOT BETTAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 05.17.2005 4:24 PM PDT
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I GOT BOOTED FROM 2 STRAIT GAMES FOR NO REASON...NOT AS BAD AS 10, BUT IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.

  • 05.17.2005 4:28 PM PDT
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I just saw the killzone next gen vid and was wondering what Bungie has to kill this very, very, large vermin?

  • 05.17.2005 4:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: EP1TAPH
Bungie,
Epitaph Asks:

1.
Can't you remove the "leave game" option? How about the only way to quit a game is by turning off your system. That way people don't quit and quit and quit, it becomes less attractive to have to "re-boot." Either that or disable gameplay for the duration of the game a quitter just left. Say someone left the game because they're selfish with 10mins remaining. Make it so that person can't play for 10 minutes. This way quitting is also unappealing.

I understand sometimes there's emergencies such as lag or maybe some of the younger players get yelled at by their parents or something, in which case they can simply turn off the machine and do whatever it is they have to do. If a player quits, however, their score should become erased. Say they went 8 and 10 then quit... take 8 kills away from their own team and 10 kills away from the opposing team. Sure it will be 3 on 4, but erasing the score would be very good (especially since 8 and 10 is unlikely to quit, where as 4 and 16 would)

2.
Also, I just started a new clan with some friends and we were level 1 and were matched up against a clan that was level 8. Are you serious? Granted we are not actually level 1 players and beat the other team, but I feel bad for the people who are!

3.
Furthermore, there should be a 3-strike policy for betrayals. Especially with the new powerful grenades. And for you people who boot the person who betrayed you, respawn and ask why first. It was probably a mistake and instead of making teams uneven, just realize there is FF in Halo, and not everyone is out to get you.

4.
Lastly, is glitching or super-bouncing considered cheating? Afterall, anyone can do it so it doesn't pose an unfair advantage. I just don't want to be fedback as cheating simply because I didn't know.


1. I agree 95%. I disagree with removing the "leave game option". There are plenty of legitimate excuses for just leaving a game without turning off your xbox. Lag, betraying members of your team, glitchers, cheaters, standbyers. All usually cause ME to quit, and I plan on playing another game right after that. If I have to turn on my xbox, the experience will completely put me off of Halo that night. And I'm a pretty hard-core gamer. Imagine what casual gamers would go through. But I agree something needs to be done. I think quitter feedback needs to be in place.

But I also think that Bungie needs to do something they haven't done yet with the banhammer. They need to publicize it. People think that nobody gets banned, and that's why they keep dicking around online. Bungie needs to start spewing numbers, and putting up a list of names. Then when people see the number of banned people fly by each day, then they might have a LITTLE more faith in the feedback system, and a little less faith in cheating.

2. I know, those levels are pissing me off. And not just in clanmatches, either. Every now and then I've played against people that are 7 levels below or above me. Make the skill levels more even? Are you serious???

3. I think your 3-strike policy is sound, though I'd want to take it a step further, by removing the boot option for players. People are griefing with it, shooting at their teammates without killing them, until their teammates retaliate, kill them, and then get booted by the GRIEFER!! That's not -blam!- right!!! And your example is sound enough. It's happened to me several times. I played a team rockets game, and I got booted. I mean, seriously, how can you hold your teammates THAT accountable in a ROCKETS game????

4. As far as I'm concerned, it's cheating, and I leave feedback when I see it. If I see people on the roof on Zanzibar, I leave feedback all the time. They shouldn't be up there. Everyone CAN do it, if they're TAUGHT how to do it, and specifically TRY to do it. That's where Bungie draws the line. It's taking advantage of a bug in the game.




i dont agree with super-bounces being cheating. i understand its a bug in the game and everything but so was the rocket/sniper glitch and they removed it in the update. if bungie had a problem with it enough to call it cheating then they would have removed it also. i could be wrong, but im not a tattle-tale.

standby= banned
modding= banned
racism= banned
etc...= banned

knowing the game inside and out= pricless

  • 05.17.2005 5:00 PM PDT
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hey BUNGIE-------TAKE OFF FRIENDLY FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 05.17.2005 5:09 PM PDT