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Subject: Problem w/ Silenced SMG Range

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For those of us that play Halo 3 Online (which I would assume to be most of us), we know the SMG has it's uses, and it does pretty good. However, it's a CLOSE RANGE gun. Yes you can shoot people mid range with some success but it really shines in close quarters. My question is, why did they put a silencer on it? A silencer reduces the range and power of a weapon. On an already short range gun, why would they reduce the range further making it silenced? Also, since you are an ODST without all the super strength and armor of Master Chief, you would think you wouldn't want to get too close to those Covenant Brutes and such, but with a short range gun made shorter with a silencer, you have to, right? This begs one other question, do you think the silencer with be detachable/optional?

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A lot of people have been saying "it has a scope, that's why." Yes it does but that doesn't explain the RANGE problem...the bullets aren't accurate at distance so putting a scope on it doesn't magically make the bullets go farther...you just see distance more but you still can't hit anything...just think if you put the BR scope on an SMG in Halo 3 right now, would that not be useless!? So a scope doesn't improve range of bullets, just viewing range...it's still a close range gun by nature...

[Edited on 06.06.2009 11:41 AM PDT]

  • 06.04.2009 1:37 PM PDT
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It's a different version of SMG with a longer barrel and longer range.

  • 06.04.2009 1:39 PM PDT
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Actualy the SMG has better range. Dont ask me why it just does.

  • 06.04.2009 1:39 PM PDT

It's the future, maybe this kind of silencer makes the gun have more range, and still be silenced.

  • 06.04.2009 1:38 PM PDT

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nah nah man uyou get the M6C pistol (very similar to the Halo: CE pistol) with a scope and heavy power. no need for range on the SMG when you have that pocket-sniper as a secondary.

  • 06.04.2009 1:39 PM PDT

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Halo isn't CO/realistic, so basically the Silencer looks like its going to "increase" range if the 50 M range is to be believed.

Imagine that it is a spec-ops gun like the M1A1 SOP MOD, rather then a silenced M16.

  • 06.04.2009 1:40 PM PDT

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It is not detachable, and who knows. Five HUNDRED years in the future, they may have developed better silencers or flash hiders.

  • 06.04.2009 1:40 PM PDT

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I also thought of this, and your right, the SMG is closed range and you would think if they added a silencer, it would be shorter. Maybe they added a scope too.

  • 06.04.2009 1:40 PM PDT

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Posted by: greengrunt117
I also thought of this, and your right, the SMG is closed range and you would think if they added a silencer, it would be shorter. Maybe they added a scope too.

Exactly, I was hoping someone could explain why it seems to have better range with an accessory that usually makes a gun have worse range...

  • 06.06.2009 11:35 AM PDT
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with the new SMG you can scope in so it will probably be a medium range weapon

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the smg has a scope too

  • 06.06.2009 11:38 AM PDT
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Its a video game, which means the addition of a silencer may have no effect on range or power. Plus, in campaign the smg can be really accurate if fired in bursts. Go into crowsnest, halo 3, to the hangar, up into the tower with the weapons. You can strip the armor off the brutes if you fire in bursts, then headshot with the br. Definitely my favorite weapon.

  • 06.06.2009 11:40 AM PDT

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Posted by: Anthofoshizzle
the smg has a scope too

Yes it does but that doesn't explain the RANGE problem...the bullets aren't accurate at distance so putting a scope on it doesn't magically make the bullets go farther...you just see distance more but you still can't hit anything...just think if you put the BR scope on an SMG in Halo right now, would that not be useless!? So a scope doesn't improve range of bullets, just viewing range...

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Posted by: Anthofoshizzle
the smg has a scope too

Yes it does but that doesn't explain the RANGE problem...the bullets aren't accurate at distance so putting a scope on it doesn't magically make the bullets go farther...you just see distance more but you still can't hit anything...just think if you put the BR scope on an SMG in Halo right now, would that not be useless!? So a scope doesn't improve range of bullets, just viewing range...


The addition of the scope should be enough t make you realize it is not the same SMG. Youre assuming too much. Just wait for the game to come out. If you dont like the smg, there is the carbine.

  • 06.06.2009 11:42 AM PDT

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Silencer acts as a barrel (probably)

Barrels increase the range of a weapon.

  • 06.06.2009 11:43 AM PDT

The SMG is more accurate, and with a scope it can obviously shoot farther than the original SMG, I thought the smaller reticule would have made that clear, as well.

Keep in mind this is basically the main weapon, so it has to be useful.

  • 06.06.2009 11:43 AM PDT
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Looks pretty accurate in the trailer to me.

  • 06.06.2009 11:44 AM PDT
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They just wanted to make the ODST at night seem stealthy

  • 06.06.2009 11:45 AM PDT

back during the winter i read an update talking about the new SMG. it does in fact have a longer range and its shots are more accurate than in halo 3.

  • 06.06.2009 11:48 AM PDT

They used "artistic license" to augment the SMG. I think they said somewhere that this new version has a longer barrel for increased accuracy in addition to the silencer but I couldn't find anything to link so I may be wrong on that.

Either way, they are putting some fresh spin into the Halo story and I try not to get too caught up in minutia.

  • 06.06.2009 11:49 AM PDT

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It is a gas operated weapon, so the user can manipulate the amount of gas used.

The SCAR uses this feature to preserve maximum power when fitted with a sound suppressor. The SCAR's user can increase the amount of gas to compensate for the sound suppressor.

I imagine that 500 years in the future, this would still be possible.

  • 06.06.2009 11:52 AM PDT

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Its a diferent weapon class, like the pistol is different to the halo 3 one.

  • 06.06.2009 11:53 AM PDT