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I need a dropshield dropshield

how will work firefight matchmaking
every map has a playlist and every week will be a double exp a random playlist will give you double exp like halo 3.You gain exp after you finish a wave
first wave 1 exp
second wave 2 exp
ecc
what do you think sry for the bad english

[Edited on 07.21.2009 8:26 AM PDT]

  • 07.21.2009 8:25 AM PDT

Nobody sees...Nobody knows...

BE A HERO!!!

Having firefight that allows matchmaking options would be amazing, finally a place where the community can come together and fight against hordes of covenant instead of fighting against each other. I hope that our forums are heard!!!

  • 07.21.2009 8:28 AM PDT

bungie please do something about this.

  • 07.21.2009 8:52 AM PDT

ummmmm...I'll have the overkill with a side of extermination! and a Dr.Pepper

i change my vote now that i c where ur coming from because it is hard to find 3 other friends but if u were matched up with ppl u can make new friends and help eachother nget achievments this is a possible idea bungie sould consider

  • 07.21.2009 9:22 AM PDT

To be honost i am about 80% sure that bungie has MM in Firefight , if you watch some of the videos on youtube or other sites you can see the demos of it , when one of the bungie peeps (the ginger guy ) in the demo talks about firefight he doest play it, he uses a recent video to show what its like

And yes I do think that bungie ( if they dont already ) out MM in Firefight
1. Alot of my m8's dont play Odst
2. The only way I can normally get friends who play halo 3 is through matchmaking

  • 07.21.2009 9:27 AM PDT

Posted by: I CJay I
To be honost i am about 80% sure that bungie has MM in Firefight , if you watch some of the videos on youtube or other sites you can see the demos of it , when one of the bungie peeps (the ginger guy ) in the demo talks about firefight he doest play it, he uses a recent video to show what its like


A recent video? You do realize that you can use saved films from any game you play, not just the ones that are matchmade?

Anyway, like what I think I said in this forum before, matchmade firefight would be a terrible idea. For one, trusting anonymous strangers to cooperate with you in a life or death situation is likely going to end with your mangled corpse under a hunters foot because the "just for fun" mentality that you may have when playing with friends is replaced with a "me first" outlook as you try to pwn not only the covenant but your own team-mates as well.

Sure, you might get some cool people willing to help you out and play nice, but with the conditioning that Halo 3 multiplayer has subjected the matchmaking population to you are more likely to find people looking to win at all costs, to the detriment of those they are playing with as they become whatever whore is dictated by the situation, ruining what should be a fun co-op experience with cries of "he was mine you noob!" "that's my sniper -blam!-!" and "-blam!- -blam!- -blam!- you -blam!-!"

Simply put, I don't want to play with the types of jackasses that invariably populate these games. At least with my own friends list I can assure myself that those I will be playing with are of decent character, something that matchmaking could never do and something that I'll take that over a little convenience any day.

[Edited on 07.21.2009 9:56 AM PDT]

  • 07.21.2009 9:51 AM PDT

Fear the Probulator. Looking at my stats I see, well go ahead.

Matchmaking for firefight and campaign, cause sometimes friends arent on.

  • 07.21.2009 10:06 AM PDT
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Posted by: I Intrepid I

read the beginning of the topic


I asked "why". Not "how".

Oh, and Matu Flp Krawfe. You are an indoctrinated apologist. One day you will awake from your stupor and feel anguish to the very core of your being. I forgive you in advance, for you know not what you post.

[Edited on 07.21.2009 2:48 PM PDT]

  • 07.21.2009 2:45 PM PDT

yes

  • 07.21.2009 3:14 PM PDT

Posted by: Matu Flp Krawfe
Posted by: I CJay I
To be honost i am about 80% sure that bungie has MM in Firefight , if you watch some of the videos on youtube or other sites you can see the demos of it , when one of the bungie peeps (the ginger guy ) in the demo talks about firefight he doest play it, he uses a recent video to show what its like


A recent video? You do realize that you can use saved films from any game you play, not just the ones that are matchmade?

Anyway, like what I think I said in this forum before, matchmade firefight would be a terrible idea. For one, trusting anonymous strangers to cooperate with you in a life or death situation is likely going to end with your mangled corpse under a hunters foot because the "just for fun" mentality that you may have when playing with friends is replaced with a "me first" outlook as you try to pwn not only the covenant but your own team-mates as well.

Sure, you might get some cool people willing to help you out and play nice, but with the conditioning that Halo 3 multiplayer has subjected the matchmaking population to you are more likely to find people looking to win at all costs, to the detriment of those they are playing with as they become whatever whore is dictated by the situation, ruining what should be a fun co-op experience with cries of "he was mine you noob!" "that's my sniper -blam!-!" and "-blam!- -blam!- -blam!- you -blam!-!"

Simply put, I don't want to play with the types of jackasses that invariably populate these games. At least with my own friends list I can assure myself that those I will be playing with are of decent character, something that matchmaking could never do and something that I'll take that over a little convenience any day.


Exactly why I don't care about MM for firefight. I already have friends who play Halo 3 and are getting ODST. Also most of the random people I meet in Halo 3 MM or any XBox live games in general are usually -blam!-s who betray for fun, quit for any given reason, trash talk, or don't know how to play as a team and look after themselves. I'd take my friends over random people who I don't trust anyday.

Besides, I won't play Firefight all of the time, so there is really no point, that's just my opinion.

[Edited on 07.21.2009 3:38 PM PDT]

  • 07.21.2009 3:37 PM PDT

Southern Thunder!

I'm a little bummed out but I've got 6 or so people to play with and if I want more I'll just ask my fellow forum goers.

  • 07.24.2009 8:07 AM PDT

Ich bin Reptar!

Well think about this. You go into FireFight Matchmaking and get 3 little kids almost everytime you play. They suck and just waste your lives and yell like little girls. You get mad and come to these forums and complain.

Now, would you like that?

  • 07.24.2009 8:09 AM PDT
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It seems to me what most of you people saying who don't want it is you will get kids i will just play with friends. If you want to play with friends it doesnt matter if mm was in or not you could still do that and to people saying oh i got friends who will play with me i really doubt you will have 3 friends wanting to play every single time you want to.

  • 07.24.2009 11:46 AM PDT

"Undoubtedly this is the heretic's doing!"

Exactly. I rather take my chances with randoms than hoping that three friends will be online to play the game mode. In my experience I've had better luck with randoms in co-op game modes.

  • 07.24.2009 11:53 AM PDT
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can u use bots 4 FF?

  • 07.24.2009 11:56 AM PDT

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Posted by; ghostvirus
This apple is brown, and rotten. This orange on the other hand, is in relatively average shape. So the orange is definitely the preferable option.
----------You can't compare apples and oranges. You're so dumb.

Posted by: Matu Flp Krawfe
Anyway, like what I think I said in this forum before, matchmade firefight would be a terrible idea. For one, trusting anonymous strangers to cooperate with you in a life or death situation is likely going to end with your mangled corpse under a hunters foot because the "just for fun" mentality that you may have when playing with friends is replaced with a "me first" outlook as you try to pwn not only the covenant but your own team-mates as well.

Sure, you might get some cool people willing to help you out and play nice, but with the conditioning that Halo 3 multiplayer has subjected the matchmaking population to you are more likely to find people looking to win at all costs, to the detriment of those they are playing with as they become whatever whore is dictated by the situation, ruining what should be a fun co-op experience with cries of "he was mine you noob!" "that's my sniper -blam!-!" and "-blam!- -blam!- -blam!- you -blam!-!"

Simply put, I don't want to play with the types of jackasses that invariably populate these games. At least with my own friends list I can assure myself that those I will be playing with are of decent character, something that matchmaking could never do and something that I'll take that over a little convenience any day.



This is the exact reasons why Gears horde mode, and -blam!- zombies have been critically panned as features in their respective games. This is the exact reason why Left 4 Dead, a completely co-op game is not, and has never been on the top ten played xbox lived games list. The former two suffering great deals from the conditioning of the normal multiplayer modes. -blam!- Zombies more so, steming from a game that rewards players for personal achievement, in extremely compelling, quantifiable ways (EXP-perks-weapons-weapon upgrades- ).

Oh wait, all that is false. Because your being melodramatic. Which is evident in the fact, that your leveraging your personal fustration with Halos community, to not justify an indifference to this issue, which one would expect if you were being reasonable, but instead leveraging it to justify what appears to be a passionate opposition to the idea in and of it self.

There is a problem with posts like this. Its like being born in a culture of individualism, and selfishness have blurred the line between fact, and opinion. Between indifference to something, because you personally aren't interested in it, and opposition to it even though it means the world the plenty of other people. The reality is, if you don't want to play Firefight with strangers, don't. Having the option for people who don't have the same perspective as you, or whose circumstance doesn't provide a large base of friends to choose from, doesn't take your freedom away. And if you have the urge to play Firefight months down the road, but have no friends online, you can continue like a stubborn child, refusing to use the MM option. But lets be honest, if the options there, and you find yourself in a circumstance where you can't fill up a lobby, but you want to play FF, your going to use it.

Besides, I won't play Firefight all of the time, so there is really no point, that's just my opinion

On one end of the spectrum, you seem consciously aware of the fact that this is just your opinion. But upon further inspection, we realize this is simply a defence ploy. Which is used to deter vocal opposition to your post in the future. See, people that disagree with the majority, have a desire to voice their opinion in opposition. They want to change peoples minds, because they want people to agree with them. Because they want to feel like they belong. They want to change peoples minds, or atleast feel like they potentially have. But they don't want to hear people that disagree with their statements directly. So you, like many others drop the cookie cutter, "just my opinion", as if it some how justifies incoherentness, and a lack of general logic. Heres the reality, you clearly don't see the line between opinion, and a fact.

You state, " I am not going to play it much, so there is really no point". The former is an expectation. The latter is forming an understanding, of the general value of a feature, based on that expectation alone. Do you honestly think this is a reasonable sentence? Theres no point in adding MM to firefight, because you aren't going to play it much?

An assessment of equal value, would be im probably going to be dead in half a decade ,so there is no point in NASA creating an infastructure to shoot down large astroids. It litterally doesn't make any sense.

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At the end of the day, if Firefight doesn't have matchmaking, if it doesn't have community integration, there will be consequences. It will be harder for me to motivated friends to play the mode with me, if it doesn't have MM. So we have this relationship, where im dependant on friends to play the mode co-op with friends. But my friends are going to be less likely to play it, unless I can get those two extra guys. You have this situation, where people that don't have friends that play Halo, people who have friends that largely play Call of duty, have no one to play Firefight with. Fire fight without MM, will fall short of expectation,. Halo is afterall, inarguebly Xboxs, and more over XBLs flagship title.

I don't subscribe to the idea of, "this is impossible". There are challenges, challenges that are worth the effort, and challenges that atleast appear to be more work than they are worth. I don't work at Bungie, I don't understand fully understand the technical issue. What I do know is, I can't see Firefight being much more active than campaign a couple months down the line,with MM. I can't see how Firefight can that important of an addition, if you don't work in an office filled with gamers, where you can play the game, like Bungie does. At the end of the day, the fact Firefight doesn't have MM highlights my concern with the game. Despite assurances from Bungie, and MS, I can't help but be skeptical, and even borderline cynical about weither or not this game is worth any where near 60$.




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  • 07.24.2009 7:26 PM PDT
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I will not buy this game without matchmaking in Firefight. They do not deserve my money if thats how it plays out. I'm sure many will buy it still, but just as many will skip over it for the same reasons.

  • 07.25.2009 2:13 PM PDT

"Undoubtedly this is the heretic's doing!"

*Applauds ghostvirus* Best post I've ever read on these forums. You hit the nail on every point us pro-MM people have been trying to make. Like I said before, it's going to come around and bite Bungie in the ass if there's a lack of players issue. The same argument can be applied to Custom Games' lack of matchmaking. Players shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get a game going, they should be able to search for one and play right off the bat.

If anything at all though, Bungie should've considered it for Firefight, It should've been the first thing on their minds on how to get it to work.

[Edited on 07.25.2009 6:04 PM PDT]

  • 07.25.2009 6:03 PM PDT

Hey Bob, what are those things jumping across the rooftops like majestic warriors dressed as Spartans with their heads on fire?

Oh, that's just the Bungie ninjas. Mess with them and they'll bring a hammer down on your head that's so big, they have to keep it on Jupiter 'cause it won't fit on Earth.

Posted by: Kaim858585
Definitely, though I'd personally only play w/people who had microphones. Its just polite to use them on something like that and damned hard to play if someone doesn't have one.

Finally, someone who makes sense!
P.S. ghostvirus, saved your whole post on a notepad :-)

[Edited on 07.25.2009 6:19 PM PDT]

  • 07.25.2009 6:16 PM PDT

No. Why would I play with randoms rather then buddies?

  • 07.25.2009 6:28 PM PDT

"Undoubtedly this is the heretic's doing!"

Posted by: Waffles108
No. Why would I play with randoms rather then buddies?


We're not forcing you to, we should just have the option of matchmaking. -_-

  • 07.25.2009 7:02 PM PDT

I'm really surprised and disappointed with this news.

  • 07.25.2009 9:38 PM PDT

not 4 player split screen, only 2 right?
plz tell me im wrong!

  • 07.25.2009 9:41 PM PDT

i don't think so, doing it with some random people you wont get far, this way it forces you to find people that you already know their tactics and can work together as a team, its the same reason why in matchmaking a team that is made of people who know each other almost always defeat a team of random people.

  • 07.25.2009 9:51 PM PDT

I was wondering why you have the choice "FireFight Sucks" if you've never played it.
Then I remembered E3 and Comic-Con.
But why would you go to either just to say it sucks?
:O

  • 07.25.2009 10:03 PM PDT