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Subject: Campaign AI and new equipment ideas

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For you campaign jocks out there:

The campaign is my favorite part of the original halo games. I have always enjoyed the variety of enemies in the game, but for this one, I think bungie should create new opponents for us to destroy. Reach is due in over a year. While I would love the idea of ODST, I dont think bungie has the time (or a big enough team) to create a new race, and so im hoping in reach they will expand the enemies. Even covenant that already exist should be given new roles. I have some ideas, they may not be the best, but I would like to see them as enemies in a game.

Im pretty sure no flood will appear, (there may be sentinels) but i am just covering the covies)

1. since elites are the main foes in this episode, I would like to see new elite units. One could be like ODSTs. In halo2, some elites were shot down to earth in pods like ODSTs on the level outskirts. These could be used during crecendo (spelling) events that are staged. They would be armed with fast, light weaponry like the energy sword or plasma rifles. Another thought I had during halo wars. The honor guard wraith got me thinking. What if some of the vehicles in the FPS game were piloted by elite crews? some of these might include ace banshee wings, Tank commander wraith brigades, or spec opps ghost squads. They would behave differently from other units, and would have a highly visible and frightening paint finish to them. Destroying these would cause all near covenant ground troops to retreat or at least demoralized to the point where they fight sluggishy.

2. some other things might be elite hunter pairs using some different weaponry. mabey instead of a fuel rod cannon, in a pair, they might both have neelder shotguns as a reward for killing X humans. Just spice it up.

3. Brutes. Brutes should be more like they acted in halo2. Despite how much bungie tried to make the brutes deadlier than in halo2, they(in my eyes) did not live up to the absolute ferocity of halo2s brutes. Halo3 brutes berserked whenever their sheilds went down, sometimes berserking with weapons blazing, however; halo2 brutes had much more health, depite having no power armor, and the worst part about them is that it took multiple headshots to take one down. When a brute berserked in halo2 as the result of being the only one left in tis squad, it BERSERKED. They moved lightning fast and, regardless of the total lead percenatge of their bodies, kept comming. like a grizzly bear charging at.you. Halo3=1 headshot to clean him up.
If they put brutes in reach they should be deployed like special forces as not to one up the elites. They might even have a new vehicle, like a tank which has room for 8-10 brutes which is fast and quickly deployed, catching spartans off guard.

4.as for grunts , it would be cool to see them EVERYWHERE on the battlefeild. They might be doing some petty tasks, like mining a road or unloading equipment, then you catch them off guard.

5.jackals were pushovers in halo3, the overcharged shot from a PP should do health damage. Also they need better scripting. of all the ai in the series, the jackals have the worst IQ. When i read the books they said like the jackals were elite mercenaires. all I ever see them do is stand in one spot and hold that sheild, mabey shoot off a few overcharged shots. they have always had so much potential for combat, but never got the chance. One idea is that when jakals attack, they attack TOGETHER. forming a wall of sheilds, they slowly advance on human postions like the ancient greeks did thousands of years ago at thermopaly.(spelling) mabey since the brute leaders give off oreder like "use your grenades!" a jackle group might all use overcharged bolts at once in a massive volley. Which leads me to th fact that jackals never operate under other jackals. A jackal captian might have a mauler or something of the like, along with body armor like the halo1 jackles with a larger energy sheild. One last thing-Jackal wristsheilds should be a duel-weildable weapon.

6.Drones should be in larger spaces more often. I beleive that one time in halo2 I was driving around in the new mombassa tunnel when ALL OF A SUDDEN drones swarmed all over my warthog, highjacked me, bashed my window up, and left me a smoldering pile of waste seconds later. Mabey they could be given an easier time while hijaking you? they rarley do it unless you are standing still in your vehicle.

7.Any new covenant species would be a plus for me. Even if it is the engineers. i honestly cannot think of anything they would do in combat, but it would be cool (to me)

If you have any ideas of a new covenant species or a new branch of an already existing species, vehicles, or weapons, share it in this post.

  • 06.04.2009 6:05 PM PDT

For equipment, I'd like to see the flare die and be replaced by a smoke screen (doesn't blind players but accomplishes the same effect) or the radar jammer randomized (Big suprise, your opponents are the dots that aren't moving faster than physically possible).

  • 06.04.2009 6:08 PM PDT

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Yeah that part you said about the radar jammer is....so tradically true...

  • 06.04.2009 6:15 PM PDT

add a horn that says "!%*@ BILL O' REILLY" in Austin Powers' voice, and
I like how if anyone ever says a nice thing about Bungie people think all they want is Recon, and if someone says something bad about Bungie people join with them. And then after they get done bagging on Bungie, they go play the game that Bungie made

Bring back the vortex from Halo 3. It was in the game code, but took too much processor power to work. Basically, it pulled bullets away from their trajectory, protecting the user from snipers.

Further:

I want an item that could slow down players. Like a power drain, but it slows you down instead of draining shields.

  • 06.04.2009 6:16 PM PDT

I am Field Master Avu Med 'Telcam, Servant of the Abiding Truth, and I have many brothers.

A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.

I would love to see the Jackal commando squad they talked about in the book The Fall of Reach, plus, I want the jackals to fight to the end, not just put their weapon over their head and run away.I want them to have finishing moves like the other characters. Imagine this for Legendary Campaign:

You are a spartan fighting on Reach, a jackal commando squad gets dropped off a few meters north of your position, they immediately form up a shield wall, two marksman with carbines take point near a rock. You manage to finish off 2 of the four shield jackals when one of the Jackal Majors charges at you with a powered up plasma rifle, he leaps on your shoulder and smashes the plasma pistol through your visor and pulls the trigger. Your head explodes and you die.

  • 06.04.2009 6:19 PM PDT

Some very good ideas here I think, especially about the jackals sending a volley of charged plasma.

  • 06.04.2009 6:22 PM PDT

Wait, why are there 6 pedals but only four directions?!

You are a spartan fighting on Reach, a jackal commando squad gets dropped off a few meters north of your position, they immediately form up a shield wall, two marksman with carbines take point near a rock. You manage to finish off 2 of the four shield jackals when one of the Jackal Majors charges at you with a powered up plasma rifle, he leaps on your shoulder and smashes the plasma pistol through your visor and pulls the trigger. Your head explodes and you die.

Ohh that's a GREAT idea... I have one too!!!


A grunt hops down in front of you; you laugh.
It leaps 6 feet in the air and gives you a swift roundhouse kick, sending you flying a good twenty feet. Not giving up, it pummels you, even with your mjolnir armor, the blows feel like anvils.

The grunt jumps back, and his paw turns red. He leaps.

FALCON
PAWNCH!

You die, vaporized on the spot.

  • 06.04.2009 6:26 PM PDT

I am Field Master Avu Med 'Telcam, Servant of the Abiding Truth, and I have many brothers.

A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.

Since the Engineers are neutral, I would like to see them run around the battlefield healing anything near them.

  • 06.04.2009 6:27 PM PDT

An auto-turret balanced enough for campaign use, and multiplayer use.

Perhaps some sort of sticky cryo bomb trap.

Portable teleporters in multiplayer. One player grabs one. The other player grabs the other.

A flashbang that doesn't go through walls, and actually works on AI enemies unlike the useless Flare. That and your HUD goes wonky and must re-adjust, and it leaves shell shock so you can't hear anything for a while. That and it explodes instantly. So players that weren't around the explosion don't have hearing problems, and people that don't see the explosion don't have seeing problems, and it doesn't last long like the Flare.

A radar jammer that actually makes your Radar fizzle slightly and shows nothing, instead of a bunch of dumb, obvious, fast moving dots.

A smokescreen that prevents players from using Visor technology or prevents players from seeing enemy names during multiplayer, and the crosshair doesn't turn red.

A tripmine that only destroys vehicles of a certain weight, doesn't activate on friendlies, and doesn't kill unless the player is standing next to the trip mine when the trip mine is shot or hit with a grenade, or run over by an enemy.

[Edited on 06.04.2009 6:34 PM PDT]

  • 06.04.2009 6:29 PM PDT

I am Field Master Avu Med 'Telcam, Servant of the Abiding Truth, and I have many brothers.

A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.

Posted by: Killawattakiwiz
You are a spartan fighting on Reach, a jackal commando squad gets dropped off a few meters north of your position, they immediately form up a shield wall, two marksman with carbines take point near a rock. You manage to finish off 2 of the four shield jackals when one of the Jackal Majors charges at you with a powered up plasma rifle, he leaps on your shoulder and smashes the plasma pistol through your visor and pulls the trigger. Your head explodes and you die.

Ohh that's a GREAT idea... I have one too!!!


A grunt hops down in front of you; you laugh.
It leaps 6 feet in the air and gives you a swift roundhouse kick, sending you flying a good twenty feet. Not giving up, it pummels you, even with your mjolnir armor, the blows feel like anvils.

The grunt jumps back, and his paw turns red. He leaps.

FALCON
PAWNCH!

You die, vaporized on the spot.
Lol, I wish Captain Falcon was a spartan

  • 06.04.2009 6:33 PM PDT

Wait, why are there 6 pedals but only four directions?!

Posted by: matman25402
Posted by: Killawattakiwiz
You are a spartan fighting on Reach, a jackal commando squad gets dropped off a few meters north of your position, they immediately form up a shield wall, two marksman with carbines take point near a rock. You manage to finish off 2 of the four shield jackals when one of the Jackal Majors charges at you with a powered up plasma rifle, he leaps on your shoulder and smashes the plasma pistol through your visor and pulls the trigger. Your head explodes and you die.

Ohh that's a GREAT idea... I have one too!!!



A grunt hops down in front of you; you laugh.
It leaps 6 feet in the air and gives you a swift roundhouse kick, sending you flying a good twenty feet. Not giving up, it pummels you, even with your mjolnir armor, the blows feel like anvils.

The grunt jumps back, and his paw turns red. He leaps.

FALCON
PAWNCH!

You die, vaporized on the spot.
Lol, I wish Captain Falcon was a spartan


Not a spartan, a grunt... I was parodying the Jackal "finishing move"
Jackals are incredibly frail, their only redeeming quality is their stealth... They're used as assasins, and it was obvious the commando squad failed epically... MC is still alive ain't he?

  • 06.04.2009 6:34 PM PDT

I am Field Master Avu Med 'Telcam, Servant of the Abiding Truth, and I have many brothers.

A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.

If you read the books, some spartans died from a jackal attack. They are stronger than the games make them out to be.

[Edited on 06.04.2009 6:37 PM PDT]

  • 06.04.2009 6:37 PM PDT

Wait, why are there 6 pedals but only four directions?!

Posted by: matman25402
If you read the books, some spartans died from a jackal attack. They are stronger than the games make them out to be.


Strong enough to beat the -blam!- out of a Spartan? Nooooo, Able to break armor that can withstand atmospheric entry? Nooooooo.

They killed spartans through numbers and stealth... Snipers/Assasins mainly...
You never saw Jackals enter epic hand to hand combat with spartans. True, they're not as fear-inclined as the game states, but they're not strong at all..

  • 06.04.2009 6:41 PM PDT

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one convenant vehicle that should be added is the locust from halo wars

  • 06.04.2009 6:42 PM PDT
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1. The ability to rip off main weapons from vehicles like the warthog turret or maybe even the main scorpion gun.

2. Fight elites and brutes at the same time.

3. Be able to use jackal shields.

4. Grenades with timers instead of bouncing ignitions.

5. More armor customizations.

6. More human weapons like the MA5D.

7. Better bosses, not guilty spark!

  • 06.04.2009 6:44 PM PDT

I am Field Master Avu Med 'Telcam, Servant of the Abiding Truth, and I have many brothers.

A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.

Posted by: Killawattakiwiz
Posted by: matman25402
If you read the books, some spartans died from a jackal attack. They are stronger than the games make them out to be.


Strong enough to beat the -blam!- out of a Spartan? Nooooo, Able to break armor that can withstand atmospheric entry? Nooooooo.

They killed spartans through numbers and stealth... Snipers/Assasins mainly...
You never saw Jackals enter epic hand to hand combat with spartans. True, they're not as fear-inclined as the game states, but they're not strong at all..
Well all I am saying is that a spartan was taken down by a jackal squad in the book. it happened, Why not in Halo: Reach?

  • 06.04.2009 6:57 PM PDT

Wait, why are there 6 pedals but only four directions?!

Posted by: matman25402
Posted by: Killawattakiwiz
Posted by: matman25402
If you read the books, some spartans died from a jackal attack. They are stronger than the games make them out to be.


Strong enough to beat the -blam!- out of a Spartan? Nooooo, Able to break armor that can withstand atmospheric entry? Nooooooo.

They killed spartans through numbers and stealth... Snipers/Assasins mainly...
You never saw Jackals enter epic hand to hand combat with spartans. True, they're not as fear-inclined as the game states, but they're not strong at all..
Well all I am saying is that a spartan was taken down by a jackal squad in the book. it happened, Why not in Halo: Reach?


My statement was never that Jackals can't kill, they're pesky little buggers on Legendary and Heroic... My statement was that Jackals aren't hyper-powered super-soldiers capable of punching the -blam!- out of Spartan armor... or even physically comparing to Spartans...

  • 06.04.2009 6:59 PM PDT

I am Field Master Avu Med 'Telcam, Servant of the Abiding Truth, and I have many brothers.

A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.

^^ Okay maybe I got a little excited, but still, a more ferocious jackal would be appreciated.

  • 06.04.2009 7:02 PM PDT
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Why I'm not going to buy halo reach, Halo producers tried to pawn off an rts with a "halo" name attached to it (halo wars) so fans of the series could waste even more money on a crappy knock off game. Because "ODST" is another crappy knock off game for fans to waste money on since it has a "halo" in front of it.
Most importantly because i paid 60 -blam!- dollars for Halo 3 and unless I download
some crappy map pack I can no longer play online. I don't play halo religiously, yup sorry fan boys not everyone does, and when I wanna log on halo for a quick 20 min session of multiplayer I don't want to have to waste 12 bucks just to play a game I already THOUGHT I had bought. Next time halo producers- you greedy sons of -blam!-es- just sell the game disc for 80 bucks, see how many halo fans stay with you then. Blam? really, go BLAM BLAM BLAM your self BLAMO!

  • 06.04.2009 7:03 PM PDT

I am Field Master Avu Med 'Telcam, Servant of the Abiding Truth, and I have many brothers.

A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.

^^ Troll, go back to your cave

  • 06.04.2009 7:05 PM PDT

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Hm. Well maybe a mini teleporter pack that would last for 60 seconds you would setup the beacon where you may want to teleport (or beacon could be 2 way teleport) Then setup the other at the other area you want to place it. Something like that would be intresting.

[Edited on 06.04.2009 7:07 PM PDT]

  • 06.04.2009 7:06 PM PDT

I am Field Master Avu Med 'Telcam, Servant of the Abiding Truth, and I have many brothers.

A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.

A dissappear after button, kind of like a place at start yes/no

  • 06.04.2009 7:08 PM PDT

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Posted by: matman25402
A dissappear after button, kind of like a place at start yes/no

Definite no. (Active camo is what your talking about, or a Cloak equipment.)

  • 06.04.2009 7:10 PM PDT

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A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.

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Posted by: matman25402
A dissappear after button, kind of like a place at start yes/no

Definite no. (Active camo is what your talking about, or a Cloak equipment.)
No for objects, like if you put a crate down and then it disappears after 30 seconds.

  • 06.04.2009 7:14 PM PDT

Greg Giraldo, George Carlin, Bill Hicks. R.I.P.
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You mean Forge in campaign and multiplayer? Even with that kind of thing that sounds pretty redundant. Cheap if you ask me.

[Edited on 06.04.2009 7:23 PM PDT]

  • 06.04.2009 7:22 PM PDT

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