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Subject: Theory with new evidence!!! Where is Master Cheif?

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Okay, I personally did not come up with this theory myself and yes, it does include Reach. I pretty sure most of you have heard about the theory about where Master Cheif is on went to Reach somehow. Even if you detest this theory, at least check the new evidence I have first .

First off, time travel is possible! Proof! Okay, this link talks about a spartan, Nicole. Where is she? Trapped in the 21st century! Why? A slipspace anomally, the same thing that could've happened to cheif! Cortana said they went through just as the portal collapsed, With the Arbitor making it and the Cheif being left behind. TheAarbitor didn't come back for them because he couldn't see the other side of the ship probably because it was in a whole different place otherwise Arbitor would've saved them!

The next thing is the landmass at the Legendary ending. Both the landmass and Reach both have the same3 shaped bay if you look closely. Also for those of you who think they both have different suns, the one on the Halo 3 ending is the same color as the border of the planet which is caused by a glare or an illusion when looking at it from that angle. So really, you don't see a sun in the ending.

The last part is the trailer for Reach.I think some thing that is peculiar is that the satement "From the Beginning, You Know The End" I will add to this section if i find anything else from posts.

If anone else has evidence supporting this theory from the trailer or elsewhere, post it here. If you disagree with this theory, please post why not.

  • 06.04.2009 9:59 PM PDT
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The only problem with this theory is that you are lloking at this game as a sequel to Halo: 3 when in reallity it is an oragin story set before Halo: CE. Reach was where the Spartan program started and where Master Chief AKA John Spartan 117 was merely 1 of 150 6 year old children brought into the Spartan program. The silhouettes are 5 spartans being Sam, Kelly, John, Fred, and Linda from left to right. I know all of this because I have read the books and the one that you should read is Halo: The Fall of Reach. Also Its not possible that Chief went through a time warp back to Reach because if he had then his future self would have played a role in the events of Reach in the book. These are the problems you run into with time travel.

  • 06.04.2009 10:08 PM PDT

-Elmo

nicole was strictly non-canon ( I believe), and please stop saying theory.

  • 06.04.2009 10:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: DawgsFan117
The only problem with this theory is that you are lloking at this game as a sequel to Halo: 3 when in reallity it is an oragin story set before Halo: CE. Reach was where the Spartan program started and where Master Chief AKA John Spartan 117 was merely 1 of 150 6 year old children brought into the Spartan program. The silhouettes are 5 spartans being Sam, Kelly, John, Fred, and Linda from left to right. I know all of this because I have read the books and the one that you should read is Halo: The Fall of Reach. Also Its not possible that Chief went through a time warp back to Reach because if he had then his future self would have played a role in the events of Reach in the book. These are the problems you run into with time travel.


First of all Sam was killed b4 Reach on a covenant ship. Second, maybe you are playing it as it happens, changing the course of history. We still have no clue what the game will be like...

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You never know what Bungie has up their sleeves, their tricky bastards, and I say that in the most endearing way possible. But when they say from the beginning we know the end, they could just mean we know the end of the original Reach with the normal stream of time, nothing is black and white with Bungie. And it could just be that John, however coincidental it may be, ended up on Reach and with his more battle hardened self and new found skills, he was able to devise different, more effective strategies that helped win the battle. When you roll dice it never comes out the same every time, and thats what the stream of time is, a random entity that has different factors working for it and these factors could be insignificant or huge, John would be a BIG factor. I feel like I'm droning on so I'll stop with that,

[Edited on 06.04.2009 10:16 PM PDT]

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Wait, whats that? Oh, thats just the sound of no one caring!
And watch where you point that thing next time!

if they implement time travel into this, i will never buy a game made be bungie ever again.

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Then thats your absolutist faulty thinking, dont spread it on the internet, especially when no one asked you.

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OMG...are we really discussing this...LOL!!!

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Elite name: Rymi 'Cazud
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Wait, whats that? Oh, thats just the sound of no one caring!
And watch where you point that thing next time!

and that "from the beginning you know the end thing" is assuming you read Fall of Reach. So once you start the game you know what happens by the end

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I didnt read the book and I know what happened. If youre any kind of fan who doesnt always have time to read the novels then you would know what happened on Reach regardless of reading the them.

  • 06.04.2009 10:20 PM PDT
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This is ridiculous. Can you really say that by looking at a planet from orbit with the sun in the background that it is the same as another seemingly identical picture?

Point-in-Case:

Sample 1


Sample 2

Which one is Earth? Are they both Earth? Is one not Earth? Are they fakes?

I may not know what is happening, but I will take my own theories over the amateur observations of the vast majority of B.net users.

  • 06.04.2009 10:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: High Truth
This is ridiculous. Can you really say that by looking at a planet from orbit with the sun in the background that it is the same as another seemingly identical picture?

Point-in-Case:

Sample 1


Sample 2

Which one is Earth? Are they both Earth? Is one not Earth? Are they fakes?

I may not know what is happening, but I will take my own theories over the amateur observations of the vast majority of B.net users.


ummm... neither of those are Reach or the halo 3 ending

  • 06.04.2009 10:36 PM PDT

Armor Lock isn't overpowered. You just suck at Reach :)

Reach isn't bad, you're just a BK :)

For my gamertag, look up "Ghoulishtie"

he does NOT travel though time! get it through your think head!

  • 06.04.2009 10:38 PM PDT
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First off Nicole is noncanon, she is just an easter egg for DOA4. She doesnt' even exist in the halo universe. Second it is impossible to travel back in time. There is only 'one' of you.
Reach and that forerunner planet look nothing alike especially when their are moons around Reach as well as a sun.

  • 06.04.2009 10:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: mtaylor808
Posted by: High Truth
This is ridiculous. Can you really say that by looking at a planet from orbit with the sun in the background that it is the same as another seemingly identical picture?

Point-in-Case:

Sample 1


Sample 2

Which one is Earth? Are they both Earth? Is one not Earth? Are they fakes?

I may not know what is happening, but I will take my own theories over the amateur observations of the vast majority of B.net users.


ummm... neither of those are Reach or the halo 3 ending


You're missing the point completely. If you can't tell if either of those pictures are the same or different planets....What makes you think you can tell if the planets in the Halo 3 Legendary Ending and the Halo: Reach teaser are the same or different....?

  • 06.04.2009 10:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: DawgsFan117
The only problem with this theory is that you are lloking at this game as a sequel to Halo: 3 when in reallity it is an oragin story set before Halo: CE. Reach was where the Spartan program started and where Master Chief AKA John Spartan 117 was merely 1 of 150 6 year old children brought into the Spartan program. The silhouettes are 5 spartans being Sam, Kelly, John, Fred, and Linda from left to right. I know all of this because I have read the books and the one that you should read is Halo: The Fall of Reach. Also Its not possible that Chief went through a time warp back to Reach because if he had then his future self would have played a role in the events of Reach in the book. These are the problems you run into with time travel.


First of all Sam was killed b4 Reach on a covenant ship. Second, maybe you are playing it as it happens, changing the course of history. We still have no clue what the game will be like...
and i'm pretty sure Linda got owned tooooo but during reach I don't exactly remember when.

  • 06.04.2009 10:50 PM PDT

Ice Cold Killa!!!!!!

master chief is sleeping on the pillar of autumn duh!!

  • 06.04.2009 10:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: High Truth
Posted by: mtaylor808
Posted by: High Truth
This is ridiculous. Can you really say that by looking at a planet from orbit with the sun in the background that it is the same as another seemingly identical picture?

Point-in-Case:

Sample 1


Sample 2

Which one is Earth? Are they both Earth? Is one not Earth? Are they fakes?

I may not know what is happening, but I will take my own theories over the amateur observations of the vast majority of B.net users.


ummm... neither of those are Reach or the halo 3 ending


You're missing the point completely. If you can't tell if either of those pictures are the same or different planets....What makes you think you can tell if the planets in the Halo 3 Legendary Ending and the Halo: Reach teaser are the same or different....?


Okay, the landforms on the planet both have a 3 shaped bay. I'm just sayin from what i see on the ending.

  • 06.04.2009 10:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: Nitemare 43
First off Nicole is noncanon, she is just an easter egg for DOA4. She doesnt' even exist in the halo universe. Second it is impossible to travel back in time. There is only 'one' of you.
Reach and that forerunner planet look nothing alike especially when their are moons around Reach as well as a sun.


First of all, you cannot say that Nicole is noncanon because you are not the story director. That is Bungie's decision not yours.

Secondly, you say that it is impossible to travel through time. In real life this may or may not be true, I really don't care, but in the Halo Universe it most certainly is possible.

Slipspace is simply altering space and time to get to a destination faster. So if something like a malfunction happened, H3 ending, then it would be possible to be transported back in time.

  • 06.04.2009 10:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: Truely a Phenom
Posted by: Nitemare 43
First off Nicole is noncanon, she is just an easter egg for DOA4. She doesnt' even exist in the halo universe. Second it is impossible to travel back in time. There is only 'one' of you.
Reach and that forerunner planet look nothing alike especially when their are moons around Reach as well as a sun.


First of all, you cannot say that Nicole is noncanon because you are not the story director. That is Bungie's decision not yours.

Secondly, you say that it is impossible to travel through time. In real life this may or may not be true, I really don't care, but in the Halo Universe it most certainly is possible.

Slipspace is simply altering space and time to get to a destination faster. So if something like a malfunction happened, H3 ending, then it would be possible to be transported back in time.


I'm not touching the time travel in Halo stuff. That's a severely beaten horse.

But.....Bungie did state when DOA4 released that Nicole was non-cannon to the Halo Story.....I tried to pull up the article, but I couldn't find it in the mess of results google gave me. Therefore, as I recall, she is non-cannon to the Halo story.

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  • 06.04.2009 10:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: Truely a Phenom
Posted by: Nitemare 43
First off Nicole is noncanon, she is just an easter egg for DOA4. She doesnt' even exist in the halo universe. Second it is impossible to travel back in time. There is only 'one' of you.
Reach and that forerunner planet look nothing alike especially when their are moons around Reach as well as a sun.


First of all, you cannot say that Nicole is noncanon because you are not the story director. That is Bungie's decision not yours.

Secondly, you say that it is impossible to travel through time. In real life this may or may not be true, I really don't care, but in the Halo Universe it most certainly is possible.

Slipspace is simply altering space and time to get to a destination faster. So if something like a malfunction happened, H3 ending, then it would be possible to be transported back in time.


My point exactly

  • 06.04.2009 10:57 PM PDT
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It's not Reach.
Reach isn't metal, the planet at the end of Halo 3 is most likely a shield world like Onyx.

Anyone can see that Reach and the Halo 3 ending planet are very different in appearance by watching the ending here: (http://halocinema.bungie.org/halo3hd/61_legendary_finale_hd. mov) , its super clear and you can easily make out that the surface looks nothing like Reach.

  • 06.04.2009 10:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: InToXiCaTi0n
It's not Reach.
Reach isn't metal, the planet at the end of Halo 3 is most likely a shield world like Onyx.

Anyone can see that Reach and the Halo 3 ending planet are very different in appearance by watching the ending here: (http://halocinema.bungie.org/halo3hd/61_legendary_finale_hd. mov) , its super clear and you can easily make out that the surface looks nothing like Reach.


Who knows, it could be after the glassing

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Posted by: InToXiCaTi0n
It's not Reach.
Reach isn't metal, the planet at the end of Halo 3 is most likely a shield world like Onyx.

Anyone can see that Reach and the Halo 3 ending planet are very different in appearance by watching the ending here: (http://halocinema.bungie.org/halo3hd/61_legendary_finale_hd. mov) , its super clear and you can easily make out that the surface looks nothing like Reach.


Who knows, it could be after the glassing


There are symbols on the surface of the planet at the end of Halo 3, not only that but to me at least, it looks nothing like a planet that has been burned or glassed.

  • 06.04.2009 11:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: InToXiCaTi0n
Posted by: mtaylor808

Posted by: InToXiCaTi0n
It's not Reach.
Reach isn't metal, the planet at the end of Halo 3 is most likely a shield world like Onyx.

Anyone can see that Reach and the Halo 3 ending planet are very different in appearance by watching the ending here: (http://halocinema.bungie.org/halo3hd/61_legendary_finale_hd. mov) , its super clear and you can easily make out that the surface looks nothing like Reach.


Who knows, it could be after the glassing


There are symbols on the surface of the planet at the end of Halo 3, not only that but to me at least, it looks nothing like a planet that has been burned or glassed.


We still dont know much about the game at all so we will see once Bungie provides data

  • 06.04.2009 11:13 PM PDT

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