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Just because the idea of a certain weapon or idea wasn't put into the games until Halo 3 does mean that it wasn't always there. For example, I've seen people saying that the Brutes shouldn't have power armor, or that the Spartan Laser shouldn't be there. I've also seen that Rockets should lock on and Assault Rifle shouldn't be there.

These things were always there, the explanation that Bungie has (which is a good one and makes sense) is that Master Chief is hardly ever in direct contact with the UNSC, so he is unable to get the newest technologies until after most others. For example, he's not getting the Spartan Laser in Halo 2 because the ODST were outfitted before dropping to New Mombasa, but Chief was stuck chasing Regret to the Halo ring.

For the Brutes, Bungie has another explanation similar to Chief's. The Brute's power armor/shielding was introduced and given to Brutes at this time, but the Brutes on the Halo ring were unable to receive it until they got back. The Brutes at New Mombasa were of the first to receive it. And the Spiker is there for the same reason.

Also, the Brutes, while around in the Covenant for a good amount of time, were never really put into as important positions as the Elites, and you don't see them in Halo: Combat Evolved because the holy ring was so important to the Covenant leaders (who you just happen to not see) that they would not trust anybody but the Elites to guard it. When they failed, the Prophets started to rethink their position on the Brutes, and as they were easily usable, they started to replace Elites in important spots. The Elites saw this, and decided to split and help the humans in the war.

[Edited on 06.05.2009 11:56 AM PDT]

  • 06.05.2009 11:29 AM PDT
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I agree for the most part, but I don't think there's meant to be explanations for everything. How would you explain the lack of brute choppers in Halo 2, since they've been around since 2525?

  • 06.05.2009 11:34 AM PDT

Death to rank junkies.

Posted by: RoyalEngineerSon
I agree for the most part, but I don't think there's meant to be explanations for everything. How would you explain the lack of brute choppers in Halo 2, since they've been around since 2525?



Well you didn't get to fight Brutes until the end of Halo 2, to there are a lot of things that could have gone unseen.

  • 06.05.2009 11:45 AM PDT

Finally, somebody with some common sense. Other explanations as to ahy certain weapons, creatures, or equipment/technologies aren't included in a certain game is that you simply don't see it ingame. It's still in use in the story's universe, you just don't come into contact with it during the events of that particular game.

  • 06.05.2009 11:48 AM PDT
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Posted by: RoyalEngineerSon
How would you explain the lack of brute choppers in Halo 2, since they've been around since 2525?

No clue. I'm only regurgitating the facts I know that I've read on Bungie and heard from Bungie staff.

  • 06.05.2009 11:52 AM PDT
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and most of the times you fought brutes in halo2 you were inside so where would they drive them?

  • 06.05.2009 11:55 AM PDT

Posted by: RoyalEngineerSon
I agree for the most part, but I don't think there's meant to be explanations for everything. How would you explain the lack of brute choppers in Halo 2, since they've been around since 2525?


Because the Brutes were only just beginning to take up frontline positions in the Covenant during Halo 2, and originally had to make do with what they had at the time. Also, it could be that you just didn't come across them during the events of Halo 2.

  • 06.05.2009 11:56 AM PDT
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Posted by: Mizzou
Posted by: RoyalEngineerSon
How would you explain the lack of brute choppers in Halo 2, since they've been around since 2525?

No clue. I'm only regurgitating the facts I know that I've read on Bungie and heard from Bungie staff.


I don't really think that there needs to be explanations for all of the changes to the game but kudos to Bungie for explaining them in other Halo canon.

  • 06.05.2009 11:56 AM PDT