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Still Carbines, so I throw away the pistol for that and I got my new Battle Rifle! So suck on that! So -blam!- that the AR is in ODST, yet the SMG can do its job better now, WTF?

  • 06.05.2009 6:55 PM PDT

Don't worry...I'm sure the forums will be lit up in in no time with "The SMG spread needs to be reduced or this game is broke" topics...

  • 06.05.2009 6:56 PM PDT
Subject: No Battle Rifle.

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Posted by: HyperDamage
QFT.

WTF does that mean?

Quoted For Truth.


YAH NO BATTLE RIFLE FOR WHINEY KIDS!

  • 06.05.2009 6:56 PM PDT

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WhooHooo!

  • 06.05.2009 6:57 PM PDT

I want her...

I aint gonna lose any sleep over it...I wanna try that pistol

  • 06.05.2009 6:57 PM PDT
Subject: CONFIRMED: No Battle Rifle in H3ODST.

Check out the group, Planet Reach and talk about Bungie's next game without the annoyance of the public forum. Oh and it's nice there too.

You thought you had lag, it took Jesus 3 days to re-spawn.

Let me start by saying, I don't associate the BR with MLG, so I don't dislike it. It's useful in Halo 3. That being said, it's best that it is not in ODST. The new pistol is there for a reason and the BR would ruin it. There really is no need for it.

  • 06.05.2009 6:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: Drop Shocked
Yay, those MLG Wannabes can leave this game alone. :)


That comment was completely unnecessary for multiple reasons.

First off, just to clear the air, Halo:ODST is a single player game. MLG wouldn't be interested in using it unless they severely changed their system. Secondly, the pistol in the game appears to be taking the place of the Battle Rifle. Not to mention that the SMG also will have a scope. The game is becoming more tactical, which is something MLG will admire and I am shocked to see so many diehard fans of Halo 3's normal modes not complaining about. It will be a much more MLG like experience in the fact that it will rely more on some skill instead of spraying and praying.

Moreover, MLG is a company. A company looking to simply give gamers a choice. Gaming has not proven to be recession proof if you look at the sales on reputable economic sites over the past month. Even look at the giant of the industry, Nintendo, and you will see they are suffering from a lack of wii sales. Also, I should chime in that the Wii is the largest marketshare. It has outsold both the PS3 and the Xbox 360 and it offers a more casual style of gameplay.

Casual gaming is where games are moving towards. Wii sales are evident of that. Even look at the sequels releasing. Halo 3 toned down movement speed and refined gameplay so the skill gap is smaller. Gears of War 2 did the exact same thing. Companies are interested more in making money while attempting to make their fans happy. Therefore they are going with the safe bet rather than the experimental game. In order to do so, they are attempting to appeal more to casual gamers to create more long lasting appeal. That also happens to help with future DLC sales but thats besides the point.

Games, again I reiterate, are becoming more for the casual gamer instead of the hardcore gamer. In order for the hardcore gamer who wants faced paced shooters and more intense firefights, MLG has surfaced. It is a company looking to give gamers a choice. They alter gameplay elements where they see fit in games and are attempting to gain enough of a following to remind developers to, at the very least, include elements that make the game a more challenging experience for gamers. They are helping give gamers a choice in the market by reminding Game developers to not just opt for appealing to the casual gamer base.

Since MLG has become more and more popular, their success in the industry has yet to be felt. Hopefully it will continue to offer gamers a choice between Hardcore variants and casual variants of their favorite games. Whether you like the casual variant or the Hardcore variant, it doesnt matter. The sole thing that matters is that it is good for you, the consumer. Its giving you more of a choice even if you opt for one thing over the other.

I know the majority of you probably already know this information so perhaps its of no consequence. However, I feel it is important to stress MLG's importance in the industry. Its just sad that so many many of you seem to use the extreme fanboys as models for the entire community. Halo 3's normal game modes are not devoid of extremist, arrogant, and whinny people obsessed over the game. Not all of the terminology like "noob, scrub, and bk" are being used by MLG fans. Such terms are prevalent not only from MLG fans, but across the board of gamers. In fact, one could blame MMOs for such a prevalence of strange terminology resonating from games as they hold the biggest sociological impact on gaming.

After all, MMOs are sociology at work. It is a large host of people connecting in one place. It is a community of sorts and thereby has its own stratification. In fact, its sole purpose is to create stratification in a society. Therefore, there are elitists at the top, and non-elites at the bottom. Such a class system is just pouring off now into other games and it will continue as the advent of the internet continues to exist just as stratification is in our own daily lives.

So, I hope that clears the air and makes you think a bit differently. At the end of the day its all about avoiding stereotyping. It just doesnt have to happen and it shouldnt. Don't judge an entire group based on one person you come across in matchmaking, just as you wouldnt judge an entire group of people on one person. Moreover, I hope it also makes you aware of the great impact MLG is having on gaming despite some of the negative things that arise as a result. It certainly isnt the only thing causing negativity in the industry. The industry itself creates some negative characters.

EDIT: One individual has deemed this "Off Topic." I hardly think so considering its all about the ramifications of the Battle Rifle not being in Halo:ODST and a comment on the clear divide between the community over the issue of the Battle Rifle in general. If you disagree, youre entitled to that opinion, but I personally feel my comment is in fitting with the conversation here. Especially considering the number of posts referencing MLG and Casual play in this very thread...

[Edited on 06.05.2009 10:47 PM PDT]

  • 06.05.2009 7:13 PM PDT

YEASH!!
THANK GOD!

  • 06.05.2009 7:14 PM PDT

Regret is the domain of those who have earned the right to look back on the past. All I have is shame.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Sad face :-(

  • 06.05.2009 7:15 PM PDT
Subject: No Battle Rifle.
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Gamertag is a secret, it's linked, just hidden.

This is awesome, no br! Haha to you, MLG.

  • 06.05.2009 7:16 PM PDT
Subject: CONFIRMED: No Battle Rifle in H3ODST.

Posted by: FatalTears
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Sad face :-(

Go away.

  • 06.05.2009 7:16 PM PDT

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  • 06.05.2009 7:17 PM PDT
Subject: No Battle Rifle.

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Sweet. MLG boys get to suck it.

  • 06.05.2009 7:17 PM PDT

I don't want to join your group LEAVE ME ALONE D:!

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Posted by: Drop Shocked
Yay, those MLG Wannabes can leave this game alone. :)


That comment was completely unnecessary for multiple reasons.

First off, just to clear the air, Halo:ODST is a single player game. MLG wouldn't be interested in using it unless they severely changed their system. Secondly, the pistol in the game appears to be taking the place of the Battle Rifle. Not to mention that the SMG also will have a scope. The game is becoming more tactical, which is something MLG will admire and I am shocked to see so many diehard fans of Halo 3's normal modes not complaining about. It will be a much more MLG like experience in the fact that it will rely more on some skill instead of spraying and praying.

Moreover, MLG is a company. A company looking to simply give gamers a choice. Gaming has not proven to be recession proof if you look at the sales on reputable economic sites over the past month. Even look at the giant of the industry, Nintendo, and you will see they are suffering from a lack of wii sales. Also, I should chime in that the Wii is the largest marketshare. It has outsold both the PS3 and the Xbox 360 and it offers a more casual style of gameplay.

Casual gaming is where games are moving towards. Wii sales are evident of that. Even look at the sequels releasing. Halo 3 toned down movement speed and refined gameplay so the skill gap is smaller. Gears of War 2 did the exact same thing. Companies are interested more in making money while attempting to make their fans happy. Therefore they are going with the safe bet rather than the experimental game. In order to do so, they are attempting to appeal more to casual gamers to create more long lasting appeal. That also happens to help with future DLC sales but thats besides the point.

Games, again I reiterate, are becoming more for the casual gamer instead of the hardcore gamer. In order for the hardcore gamer who wants faced paced shooters and more intense firefights, MLG has surfaced. It is a company looking to give gamers a choice. They alter gameplay elements where they see fit in games and are attempting to gain enough of a following to remind developers to, at the very least, include elements that make the game a more challenging experience for gamers. They are helping give gamers a choice in the market by reminding Game developers to not just opt for appealing to the casual gamer base.

Since MLG has become more and more popular, their success in the industry has yet to be felt. Hopefully it will continue to offer gamers a choice between Hardcore variants and casual variants of their favorite games. Whether you like the casual variant or the Hardcore variant, it doesnt matter. The sole thing that matters is that it is good for you, the consumer. Its giving you more of a choice even if you opt for one thing over the other.

I know the majority of you probably already know this information so perhaps its of no consequence. However, I feel it is important to stress MLG's importance in the industry. Its just sad that so many many of you seem to use the extreme fanboys as models for the entire community. Halo 3's normal game modes are not devoid of extremist, arrogant, and whinny people obsessed over the game. Not all of the terminology like "noob, scrub, and bk" are being used by MLG fans. Such terms are prevalent not only from MLG fans, but across the board of gamers. In fact, one could blame MMOs for such a prevalence of strange terminology resonating from games as they hold the biggest sociological impact on gaming.

After all, MMOs are sociology at work. It is a large host of people connecting in one place. It is a community of sorts and thereby has its own stratification. In fact, its sole purpose is to create stratification in a society. Therefore, there are elitists at the top, and non-elites at the bottom. Such a class system is just pouring off now into other games and it will continue as the advent of the internet continues to exist just as stratification is in our own daily lives.

So, I hope that clears the air and makes you think a bit differently. At the end of the day its all about avoiding stereotyping. It just doesnt have to happen and it shouldnt. Don't judge an entire group based on one person you come across in matchmaking, just as you wouldnt judge an entire group of people on one person. Moreover, I hope it also makes you aware of the great impact MLG is having on gaming despite some of the negative things that arise as a result. It certainly isnt the only thing causing negativity in the industry. The industry itself creates some negative characters.


I laugh at this, why? Because it's correct, and very well made. Sadly no one hear gives a -blam!- about that,, and most are quite the lazy type and won't read this...

  • 06.05.2009 7:27 PM PDT
Subject: CONFIRMED: No Battle Rifle in H3ODST.
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Have you noticed in the firefight vids that most of the people kept their pistol the whole time?
That's because it has replaced the BR =)

[Edited on 06.05.2009 7:30 PM PDT]

  • 06.05.2009 7:29 PM PDT
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I like the battle rifle but it better stay the -blam!- out of Halo 3:ODST. Its to much of a do all gun, it has dominance in all ranges but point blank and very far.

  • 06.05.2009 7:30 PM PDT

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  • 06.05.2009 7:32 PM PDT

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people who like MLG are stupid because they make sissy rules for the games

  • 06.05.2009 7:34 PM PDT

Posted by: Gottalovec4
YEAH!!!!!

Thirteen shotting with spikers FTW!!!

Mah B.U.N.G.L.E. Sentinel Beam is One Shot!


...But honestly, don't rip on MLG people. As much as I don't like the way they play the game, they are just as entitled to playing it the way they want just as I am entitled to try to kill people with bubble shields.

[Edited on 06.05.2009 7:40 PM PDT]

  • 06.05.2009 7:38 PM PDT

Memento mori.

Hell yeah, using the BR made killin Grunts and Jackals too easy. Between the Carbine and the AutoMag, it's going to be way more satisfying. And yeah, all dem MLG Nobs can GTFO from ODST. ODST is for the story fans, not the multiplayer fans.

  • 06.05.2009 7:39 PM PDT

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I'm happy and sad at the same time.... But yeah a BR would make firefight too easy.

  • 06.05.2009 7:41 PM PDT
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people who like MLG are stupid because they make sissy rules for the games


Agreed. Don't whine if I used something in the game to kill you.
Certain people in this thread need to drop the Ego, and stop flaming the MLG kids.

I myself don't pertain to the MLG. But i know a few people who Love MLG gameplay, yet still love the AR, SMG, etc.

Stop flaming, and stop being an immature brat.
All of your posts are giving off this 'nanner nanner boo boo' vibe.

  • 06.05.2009 7:45 PM PDT
Subject: No Battle Rifle.

Posted by: Achronos
I blame stosh.


Proud tester of the Halo 3 beta.

I'll survive without it, for sure, and now we have an awesome SMG with SCOPE!!

  • 06.05.2009 7:45 PM PDT