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Subject: Bungie, don't make the same mistakes you made in halo 3
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Or they could take out the BR, make the AR like it was in CE, and bring back the CE pistol.

  • 06.05.2009 10:48 PM PDT

i love narrows thats why and this is pointless to argue about unless the dude that made this thread is a bungie terrorist with some wmds theyre gona do what ever they want like they already do and i dont see how techfreak got to a 40 without the br

  • 06.05.2009 10:50 PM PDT

Posted by: TYTY FTG
i love narrows thats why and this is pointless to argue about unless the dude that made this thread is a bungie terrorist with some wmds theyre gona do what ever they want like they already do and i dont see how techfreak got to a 40 without the br


Can someone translate this please?

  • 06.05.2009 10:52 PM PDT

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The battle rifle does not "own everything"

Not only do vehicles own it, but usually rushing with the AR can win over it and power weapons usually own against it as well.

The sniper is not good against BR though, Ill give you that.

  • 06.05.2009 10:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: pumpkin1
Posted by: HAVIK
Posted by: techfreak1
Posted by: TYTY FTG
i think every weapon has a fair chance at certain ranges over eachother close range ar wins far away snipe wins

For the most part this true, except that the battle rifle is the exception. battle rifle is effective at both long and short range. Its niche in game play is far larger than the other weapons.


At Short range, the BR absolutely cannot beat AR.


And usually the BR holder will have an AR that they had before they came across the BR. See. The problem is BRs are placed too frequently and too carelessly.


But can they switch while they are fighting in battle and still get the kill? Not likely. They fixed that problem from halo 2.

To me, the BR can be countered just as easily as the AR, it all depends on position.

If you are Mid range from someone that has a BR, dont engage. Its as simple as that.
What do you do when you see someone with a Shotgun? You back away.

Same principle.

Now if you spawn in the middle of the open and someone guns you down mid-range with a BR, thats a spawn issue. Not the weapon.








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  • 06.05.2009 10:56 PM PDT

Posted by: Wizzen james



Not only do vehicles own it,


Yes, heavy duty Halo vehicles equipped with gattling guns or plasma cannons actually own the battle rifle. That must men the battle rifle isn't underpowered, especially since there aren't any vehicles on most maps! /sarcasm

Posted by: Wizzen jamesbut usually rushing with the AR can win over it and power weapons usually own against it as well.


No, unless you suck, rushing with an AR always fails. Power weapons may be a little better, but that's already saying something. And it depends on which ones.

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  • 06.05.2009 10:57 PM PDT

Posted by: HAVIK
But can they switch while they are fighting in battle and still get the kill? Not likely. They fixed that problem from halo 2.


It's easy to see it coming by changing to your AR when in a close quarters area.

Posted by: HAVIK
To me, the BR can be countered just as easily as the AR, it all depends on position.

If you are Mid range from someone that has a BR, dont engage. Its as simple as that.


No. Not 'simple as that'. You can't just choose to not engage them if they are shooting at you too.

  • 06.05.2009 11:01 PM PDT

so you rush and that probably leads to most of your deaths

  • 06.05.2009 11:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: mahspoonis2big
Please God, no equipment this time around.


I'd much rather have useful equipment than no equipment. They removed all the good stuff and made thigns like the trip mine worthless.

The BR is fine. It's as good, centralized weapon. Every game has one of those. There's a massive array of other guns you can use to kill a BR weilder; it's no difficult task.

  • 06.05.2009 11:21 PM PDT

Not on FFA games. And what's wrong with equipment? Bubble shields and re generators are really fun at least to me.

  • 06.05.2009 11:30 PM PDT
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Halo CE > Halo 3 > Halo 2

Fix the Halo 3 BR spread, plz.

The BR needs to be harder to use with less bullet magnetism, tighter spread and smaller reticle. It should kill faster as well. The Halo 2 BR's RoF works a lot better. Even though a skilled player will be able to kill faster and more consistently, it will be harder to aim, thus making it a lot harder to use.

  • 06.06.2009 12:10 AM PDT

-Life is suffering, now go and enjoy.

No need to worry about a Battle Rifle in Halo: Reach because they were still in the developmental stage if you read the book when the spartans are in the underground facility they come across the developmental weapons section which contains a few altered M6D pistols and Battle Rifles (still in development).

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The fall of Reach happens before all the Halo games. If there was no Br in Halo CE, then why would soldiers on reach have them. For all we know there will probably not be a Br.

  • 06.06.2009 12:17 AM PDT

-Life is suffering, now go and enjoy.

The closest thing to a Battle Rifle in Halo: Reach would be an altered version of the traditional MA5B assault rifle that the marines in contact harvest received.

  • 06.06.2009 12:19 AM PDT

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Posted by: techfreak1
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I am not telling him to shut up and go away, But so many of these same threads are in the Halo3 forum, it is basically just the same things being said except in a different section

The whole reason I bring it up is because it's in this section. I figure this early in development bungie will be watching this forum to see what the people want.


I personally feel it's not early indevelopment ESP since the beta is coming soon.....

  • 06.06.2009 1:06 AM PDT
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I think they should just nerf down the BR to kill with min. 5 shots and maybe increase rate of fire a bit and nerf down the melee to kill from 3 hits. That would solve every problem people have with the Halo 3 weapons.

  • 06.06.2009 2:51 AM PDT

I say make it a lot worse long range and make it mid-range, like it was designed.

  • 06.06.2009 3:06 AM PDT
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Posted by: techfreak1
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i don't think the br was horrible at all (i am not into MLG) but who knows since they are taking it out of ODST

Please tell me you're lying about ODST.


Nope check the Update.

  • 06.06.2009 3:13 AM PDT

I thought this was an MLG elitist thread, turns out you just hate everything

  • 06.06.2009 4:16 AM PDT

Let the BR as it is right now, but don't use it as a starting weapon and don't place many on the map. just a few (number depending on how large the map is). Maybe don't place them at all on some maps.

Use the SMG as starting weapon for Spartans and the Plasma rifle as staring weapon for the Elites (if they'll be in the MP). Maybe plasma grenades for the Elites aswell.

something like this??

  • 06.06.2009 4:32 AM PDT

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Please at least here what other people have said about Halo 2. From what ive heard the br in halo 2 was ten times better than Halo 3s. They toned down the br in halo 3 and i think this is the only halo were the starting weapon could contest the br or pistol.

  • 06.06.2009 5:41 AM PDT

It's funny that there is discussion in this thread about nerfing the BR but theres a large segment of the population that thinks the BR is already horribly nerfed. That segment wants the Halo 2 BR back because it was an ownage machine. The Halo 3 BR has already been toned down and it's a wonderfully balanced weapon.

  • 06.08.2009 9:40 AM PDT

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I dont play Matchmaking much anymore. But when i used to i noticed that the BR was very popular. In campaign i use it sometimes but i mainly useother weapons.

They need to make the BR damage go down, seriousy i hated getting 4 shotted from across the map. The BR is getting to be like a Sniper.

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